From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #52 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, January 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 052 Today's Subjects: ----------------- wood rules! :) (was: Re: Numerous threads rolled into one! [chad schrock] Re: The Sad Reality of a College Student's Life [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mi] Re: song wish list [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: TMBG (was Re: Bargainville misprint??) [aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (AL] Re: moxification [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Rarities [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: Jewel Kilcher and why I think she writes trash (a dissertation on the state of the Union) ["KatieWo] Re: Flamingo defamation (was: Re: Colorado anyone?) [chad schrock ] Re: Numerous threads rolled into one! [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Muns] Re: Fruvous is at #31(was VOTE FOR MOXY FRUVOUS.......) [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: West-Coast-Con [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: Numerous threads rolled into one! [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Muns] Re: song wish list [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: Jewel Kilcher and why I think she writes trash (a dissertation on the state of the Union) [] dan-bern-digest Digest V99 #17 [dan-bern-list@eskimo.com] Jewel Kilcher and Princess Buttercup - isn't life wonderfully silly? [pet] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:24:51 -0500 From: chad schrock Subject: wood rules! :) (was: Re: Numerous threads rolled into one! Trace wrote: > They played it on 10/30 (mischief night or devil's night depending > on where you're from) as part of their encore, and yes, Chris O > tickled the ivories for us. I'm one Fruhead who loves both Lee > and Wood, so now you know at least one who likes it. I'm sure > there are more :) In a rare on-topic post.... I must say that "Wood" is probably my favorite of their CDs/albums/tapes/distant aural experiences. There isn't something specific that I can point to and say, "I like 'Wood' because of____." I just like that CD the best. (And, this is the *only* thing you are going to get me to say is the best. Picking the best song is beyond impossible. Picking the best Fru is even harder. :) - -- chad at radix dot net today's best music mix for summer! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:09:32 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: The Sad Reality of a College Student's Life A Wrinkle in TIme!!!!! its been years since I read that! I need to go to a book store now! Fruchild, how is incredibly pleased that her best friend now refers to her as frulover (its great when friends realize on of your passions) On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:21:43 GMT gemini@p3.net (Trace) writes: >On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 02:54:28 GMT, nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org >(Nicole the Wonder Nerd) wrote: > > >> >>A warp in space/time. Read "A Wrinkle In Time" and all will become >>clear. >> > >I loved that trilogy! I love this ng :) > >-- >Trace >gemini@p3.net > >"They're like Robin Williams singing, times 4." > -Anonymous comment about Fruvous overheard in the >8th & Market subway station in Philadelphia following >the 1998 Singer/Songwriter Festival. > >*sniff* Target is within sniffing range. Hailing >on all frequencies. *woop woop* Visual acquired. >Our bogie is at 9:00. Fire when ready. - 1/1 BL > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:22:20 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: song wish list Marie Claude said: >I'm still wishing (and so is George Nowik way the heck out there under >8m of snow in Québec City) for a Murray rendition of 'Need You Tonight'. To which Lori responded: >to which I can only say UNNNGH!!! To which I must add: If Jian sees this and gets the band to do it at Frucon, I'm absolutely going to kill myself. That's it. End of Heather as we know her. Just living with the knowledge that I had missed Murray singing "Need You Tonight" would be too much to bear. Life would have no meaning. Hear this and hear this now, Frulads! Wait till Frucon III (here I am, thinking optimistically that there *will* be a third con)! C'mon! For your old pal Heather? Huh? >If we're going to do the cover wish list as well, how about Robert >Palmer's "Addicted to Love"? Oh I think they'd have just a *bit* of fun there. It would be truly wonderful if the rest of the guys pretended to play their instruments (REALLY badly) and did that "Robert Palmer Girl Swaying Dance Thing" while Murray sang. And if they all slicked their hair back and wore ugly black dresses. But that'd be a little intense for a show, huh? Heather Moore ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:57:59 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992) Subject: Re: TMBG (was Re: Bargainville misprint??) >Neh--wait a minute. The TMBG list and alt.music.tmbg are two separate >entities. You have the ng people, the list people (like myself; I >used to post to a.m.tmbg but don't anymore), and, naturally, a lot of >crossover. But they're different fora. That's very true, however, tmbg.org has a mail<>news gateway just the same! (You can also browse the ng through the tmbg.org server if your ISP doesn't have the ng) http://www.tmbg.org/discussion/news/ has more information on how to do that and other fun stuff Quite off topic, Aleigh Check it out! Check it totally out!! --> http://i.am/not_your_broom "Me fail English? That's unpossible!" -Ralph Wiggum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:04:13 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: moxification LOL! Im for it too. I broke up with My first Boyfriend the day before Vday! Luckily it was mutual and we both (unknowingly) got each other presents for the day. I still have the bear he gave me (Sire Randell after the giver, Randy) Fruchild, who will never give up her stuffed animals even if i live to be 103 Not sad - you should grab happiness and fun where you can find >them! >I definitely vote for Moxifying Valentine's Day, cause I usually HATE >V-day, having been single for five v-days in a row (haven't been >single 5 >years in a row, but the break-ups always fall just so.. :), and each >V-day >I get bitter and sullen and cranky - help me break the cycle with the >power >of Fruvous! > > >Aimee > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:57:11 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Rarities I will wish for different songs until I die Im sure but I will never forget what a lucky fruhead I am. My first show I saw Ballad Of MF and my second I saw Billy Jean medely. Although I long to here some songs and a few will tend to strike me as trite I am thankful that the band has never let me down. I also keep in mind that Ive had these oppertunities that some fruheads who have attended multiple concerts havent had. I am also glad that I am not shy and both of these concerts Ive had lovely conversations with the lads. Thank you Moxy Fruvous. Thank you (in order of meeting them) Jian, Mike, Dave and Murray. You are truly the best and I am eagerly awaiting what surprises may lie ahead and I look forward to becoming closer friends with you and all of your fruheads. The long winded fruchild ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:50:39 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Jewel Kilcher and why I think she writes trash (a dissertation on the state of the Union) oh wow . . . another edna fan. she's amazing--sometimes. i can't tolerate "renascance" (see, i can't even spell it . . .), but she's truly inspirational. ~~kate - -- **************************************************************************** Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu **************************************************************************** nothing good ever comes without a fight gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight - --bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. - --douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. - --jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 *************************************************************************** JianBabe wrote in message <19990118181657.20850.00000447@ng97.aol.com>... >>Edna St. Vincent >>Millay > >Can't resist pointing out that IMHO Edna St. Vincent Millay is the best poet of >all time. Well....one of them at least. > >~joni >~*~~*~~*~ >I opened the yogurt carton and it said "Please try again.".... I thought maybe >I had opened it wrong...or the yogurt people were trying to inspire me... >"Don't give up Mitch! From your friends at Yoplait. Fruit on the bottom, hope >on top." > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:40:50 -0500 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: Flamingo defamation (was: Re: Colorado anyone?) Srm9988n@aol.com wants change for the dime she brought along: > chad had to add his .02 (doesn't he *always* :) ) > > >not Fruvous Pervert), > > though we don't sneer at those either. (well, chad does. :P) > >heyHeyHEY! Don't drag me into this. Anyway, I don't sneer at > >Fruvous perverts. If I did, you and I would never talk. :) > i haven't talked to you in months, darling. email, on the > other hand... same difference. nyah. > >> -- Lori (degenerate spice) > >a/k/a Queen Spice. > >(ask her. ;) > I'm not saying a word here. That was 6. > So you can just go ask him instead. > He started it. :P Can I help it if 'You could whip up french and goblet pleated pelmets in your sleep while the rest of us are trying to figure out what the hell that is and living with bare mini-blinds.' Hmmmmm? > >let's take a ride to the seaside > >we can go swimming in the high tide > I'm working on that passport right now, my friend. Just remember to smile for the camera. I sort of grimaced, since I got the picture taken two days into my sentance of not washing my hair for two weeks. You see, I cracked my head into a key safe mounted on a wall at work, and put a small gash in my head. I couldn't wash my hair for two weeks because of the stitches. I only got the picture done then because I had just gotten my name changed and wanted my passport replaced ASAP. Besides, now my passport pic will make it look like I'm too ill to travel. And, that brings us to Frürelated-ness, because of the upcoming FrüCon and it being in Canada and all that. (At least it doesn't look as bad as my driver's license. That one looks like crap because I had a migrane that morning and the bright light didn't help any.) > -- Lori (who admits to having been called princess by her beloved > poppop, but that's as royal as she ever got.) Well, until you took that quiz, right? - -- chad at radix dot net we are a nation of win-gers, when it comes to the weather. (tonight we are listening to a RealAudio stream from: http://www.91.8fm.co.nz/) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:28:02 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: song wish list piscopinto sez: >Throw Mike Ford into a suit and he does resemble Mr. Palmer... and then there are his three lovely backup singers ... :) - -- Lori (degenerate cocoa-spice.) ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:57:25 GMT From: mkiniry@cowshead.com (Mike Kiniry) Subject: acoustic cafe .mp3's hey- i've posted seven new .mp3's on my site at http://www.cowshead.com/mkiniry they're from a syndicated show called _acoustic cafe_. one from '97 & one from '98. enjoy! mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:36:41 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: song wish list chad said: >> Oh noooo baby. They played it at the Luxor. >I didn't think that the Annapolis show was the only time that >song has been perfromed. >I'll ignore the rest of the comment. /me scrunches up forehead and thinks. what comment? there was no comment. that was the whole post. now Lori is rilly rilly confused. >it has nothing to do with what you really really want. huhh? - -- Lori (perplexed degenerate cocoa-spice.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:05:53 -0500 From: "^kat^" Subject: Re: song chat On a side note, my kitten is named Laika - does anyone else have >Frupets? *grin* my cat is named foxy fruvous... she started just as foxy, a name my mom gave her, but i added the fruvous. :) she's a birman, and absolutely adorable. we've entered her picture in the cat-a-day calendar 2000 contest, so perhaps the band'll get a little bit more exposure if she wins. :) oh! & as far as the band getting exposure, everyone i've sent my "conversion tape" to thus far has loved it, and i've already encouraged 2 people with whom i've traded BNL boots to come to the dayton, OH show on feb. 3. just doing my part... ^kat^ ... calculus is calling. grrr. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:03:20 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Numerous threads rolled into one! >I've talked to Dave on several occasions about "Lee" For some reason, all the Fruheads I know say >it's the worst song off YWGTTM or by MF ever! It's so >sweet and calm. Oh well. Wha???? I dont think I could pick a "worst song", but to me Lee is one of the farthest from that list!! Dave, I love that song! There are plenty of us who appreciate it, so keep up the great work. Fruchild, appalled and amazed ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:57:25 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: Fruvous is at #31(was VOTE FOR MOXY FRUVOUS.......) chad says: >> heyHEY. I can stop anytime I want, here. :P >I'm sure you can. Just like the rest of us. but why I'd want to I have no idea. >> Delusional. But chad expressly *denied* I was royalty THEN.) >I've since had evidence to reconsider I do hereby pledge and declare that I recognize Queen Lisa of Maryland as the Monarch of Frudom (east coast sector), and Queen Lisa of Dearborn as the Monarch of Frudom (midwest sector). Their sundry disputes with the King of Spain, current or former, are no concern of mine. I claim no specious right of succession (which I believe is rightfully the imperative of Sheryl, Princess of Monaco), and I hold lord chad of Annapolis' "evidence" in the highest suspicion. Neither do I recognize any impostor queens. As for the Wars of the BudgieDogs which may flare up intermittently, threatening the rightful succession, I declare myself Swiss and therefore uninvolved, although I reluctantly acknowledge having been formerly a wolf with a knife in my purse. I do hope this petition is received with their Majesties' grace, goodwill and good humor. And now I do beg your leave and amnesty, - -- Lori, a princessly cocoa-spice gossamer-winged flamingo drinking from a cocktail glass. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:53:37 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: West-Coast-Con Yes ya do, love....Hey!! the child (intense music goes here) On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:45:52 -0500 "KatieWow" writes: > >>it was pretty funny even though I'm willing to bet most of the folks >>in the audience were too young to even realize the Beatles ever made >movies. > > >i think i speak for the (relatively) young'n' contingent when i >say--"hey!!!" :) >~~kate > >-- >************************************************************************ **** >Kate Leahy >kleahy@loyola.edu >************************************************************************ **** >nothing good ever comes without a fight >gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight >--bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" >and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of >them >were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. >--douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" >we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. >--jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 >************************************************************************ *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:53:37 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Numerous threads rolled into one! >*Frunique returns sleepily from the dark, bad weather keeping her >away lso yay for Fruchild, if indeed it is you who doesn't >like the Beatles. From what I've heard of them, they're not *that* >fabulous (yes, Jian-I-Am, I don't even like the Beatles with their >long long hair...yay for Mr Cheese's people!). Wait wait wait!! Hold up a sec! Im glad that you out and say your beliefs, but please do not give others false impressions of me! I never in anyway came anywhere near close to saying I didnt like the beatles. ARg! Misquoted a third time! The only time a post of mine contained anything close to that was teasing (playfully) a friend of mine who said I was a geek for liking them. *gasp for air* Give me a second I seem to be Faclemped (sp?) And I voted Manson as worst act. Nobody slam me, please. That guy >just >bugs the hell out of me. I don't know why. And no I'm not a >Christian. tehe he has boobies now (lil kid giggle). You say Christian as though its a bad thing. Dont worry I didnt take offense. Anyway i am amused by these lines 'cause i dont mind him and im christian. In fact we were sining his version of sweet dreams at my lil hippy gathering. >3. I'd love to hear "Lee." I'd also like to ask Dave what that song >is really about. I STILL haven't pieced it together! Im with you on that one. Fruchild who voted BSB as worst...dont hurt me! ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 03:53:37 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: song wish list Ive never heard of Murray doing this *gasp gasp* i need air! Heather, what If they were going to play it but don't cause of this and I die before frucon 3. how would that be? Ill get some one to tape it AND you can ask 'em do it next year. they're nice guys they'll do it =+) Fruchild, for a lil bit of fun...im never to be taken seriously...truly! It not good for your health to expect sense out of me! On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 02:22:20 GMT petit_chou@juno.com writes: >Marie Claude said: >>I'm still wishing (and so is George Nowik way the heck out there >under >>8m of snow in Québec City) for a Murray rendition of 'Need You >Tonight'. > >To which Lori responded: >>to which I can only say UNNNGH!!! > >To which I must add: >If Jian sees this and gets the band to do it at Frucon, I'm absolutely >going to kill myself. That's it. End of Heather as we know her. >Just >living with the knowledge that I had missed Murray singing "Need You >Tonight" would be too much to bear. Life would have no meaning. Hear >this and hear this now, Frulads! Wait till Frucon III (here I am, >thinking optimistically that there *will* be a third con)! C'mon! >For >your old pal Heather? Huh? > >>If we're going to do the cover wish list as well, how about Robert >>Palmer's "Addicted to Love"? Oh I think they'd have just a *bit* of >fun >there. > >It would be truly wonderful if the rest of the guys pretended to play >their instruments (REALLY badly) and did that "Robert Palmer Girl >Swaying >Dance Thing" while Murray sang. And if they all slicked their hair >back >and wore ugly black dresses. But that'd be a little intense for a >show, >huh? > >Heather Moore >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:08:32 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: Jewel Kilcher and why I think she writes trash (a dissertation on the state of the Union) Joni sez: >Can't resist pointing out that IMHO Edna St. Vincent Millay is the >best poet of all time. Well....one of them at least. YAY YAY YAY! Good taste rears it's well-coifed head! Heather Moore ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:10:45 GMT From: dan-bern-list@eskimo.com Subject: dan-bern-digest Digest V99 #17 <<< This message is part 2 of a previous message >>> > to try to copy the Dylan schtick. We who have listened to Dan enough > know these things aren't true, well its the same for those of us who > listen to Fruvous. > > Fruvous is different than Dan, and some people who like Dan a lot are > also going to love Fruvous, like Chad, me, and a numebr of other people I > know of who are big listeners of both. There are also going to be Dan > listeners who don't like Fruvous, and Frvuous listeners who don't see > anything in Dan's music. That is only natural. It neither means Dan nor > Fruvous "sucks." I think Fruvous is extremely talented in both their > songwritring and their musicianship. Even some of the people that I > heard from who saw the shows and didn't like Fruvous so much, agreed that > they were very talented. That they have chosen to take a more "fun" > approach to their shows than Dan, doesn't make them less talented. A > good Fruvous show is great fun and is an interactive and energizing > expereince. If that is not what you are looking for in music, you won't > appreciate Fruvous. Not to pick on Billy Bragg, because I like him too, > Luther, but it is easy for someone to listen to a few of his songs and > find him dour and boring. I think any time a band does things in their > own unique way, as both Dan and Fruvous do, there are going to be people > who don't like them. In my tape trading activity, I have run into many > people who have seen my Dan collection and said "why??" because he > doesn't mesh with what they want to listen too. Chris Chandler is another > example, some of ushere think he is great, others here hate him. But at > least they are generally worth having an opinion about. > > Personally, Dan and Fruvous are the two artists I listen to the most, and > I think they go togeather naturally because there are a lot of > similarities, but depending on my mood, I'll pick one over the other on a > given day. > > - Harry K > > p.s. I will also say that while I wasn't there and haven't heard it yet, > I have been told that the early show on 12/31 was the weakest Fruvous > show that many Frufans can remember. An unfortuante first impression for > Dan listeners. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] - -- DISC Connection, used CD's, Vinyl, Laserdiscs & DVD's Store (253) 539_5632 Luther Gaylord wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Chad Maloney wrote: > > > And when you do decide something sucks so much, have an intelligent > > reason so you start some good open-minded conversation. > > It seems to me, Chad, that even without an "intelligent reason" (in your > estimation) I've started a good conversation on the list. This is the > first time I've ever seen you post, for example, and Harry Keates seldom > comments publicly. So, at the very least, I've drawn some people out of > lurkdom. Right? Ah, hey, I'm not complaining at all. I just enjoy a good conversation and try to make them whenever I can. Just using what I can to make my argument better *grin* And yeah, I think I've posted more in the past day or two than I did in total before that... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 04:10:14 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Jewel Kilcher and Princess Buttercup - isn't life wonderfully silly? From the mouth of Fruchild: >Like I said...FIRST album. Its my nostalgia album... Last one I heard >before being torn from my homeland. "I've got my maple syrup, everything but you.." C'mon, Fruchild, you gotta admit there's some silliness in those lyrics that Jewel is blissfully unaware of. : ) Now, I'm not saying that you're Satan for liking her or anything (hell, I'm a Spice Fan for crying out loud!), just that I got no lovin for her. Hey now. Taste is the spice of life (it all leads back to SPICE -- muhahahahaha). >Again, nostalgia. Nostalgia can do weird things. Why the hell else would I love "Semi-Charmed Life"? I got your back on this one girl. Situations can make you like utter drivel. >> "I'm writing/ this letter to tell you/ I >>don't love you anymore./ I don't miss you./ I never have." Rubbish. >>Putrescence. > >Whats that from? The quote from her poem[1] or the other bit[2]? >You mistake my saying I like her music for saying it is poetry. Nah, I'm just saying that her poetry is crap as an example for her silliness. >That was never said, but never the less, I will listen to it and enjoy it >along with my moxy and tori and Dar and Phish and so on... Good good good. If you gave her up because of what I said, I'm sure I'd feel some remorse (not a lot, mind you, but some). As that amazing band Pulp once said: "Please understand. We don't want no trouble. We just want the right to be different. That's all." Heather Moore [1] -- quoted from an article in Entertainment Weekly #467 (15 January 1999) written by Jeff Gordinier on pp 23-24 that said: "Jewel feels that I haven't delved properly into one of her poems. The verse in question - a selection from last year's best-selling book A Night Without Armor, now in its 20th printing - goes like this: 'I'm writing/ this letter to tell you/ I don't love you anymore./ I don't miss you./ I never have.'...'To me that poem is very transparent,' Jewel counters. 'I'm writing to tell you I don't love you anymore always means OUCH I'M HURT. I put a lot of layers in my writing. If you look at it on the first level, you won't get very far into it. But if you look for the unspoken, there's always a lot more to the poem A lot of people don't do that.' Whoa." [Heather's note: this cracks me the hell up every single time I read it.] [2] Perhaps you are referring to my (sloppy) homage to The Princess Bride by William Goldman. In Chapter 6 "The Festivities," an old hag approaches Buttercup in a dream. She is screeching, "Ask her how she got through the Fire Swamp? Ask her if she did it alone? She threw love away to be the Queen of Grime, the Queen of Muck - I am old and life means nothing to me, so I am the only person in all this crowd to dare to tell truth, and truth says bow to the Queen of Feculence if you want to, but not I. Cheer the Queen of Slime and Ordure if you want to, but not I. Rave over the beauty of the Queen of Cesspools, but not I. Not I!" The passage is found of pg 206 of the 25th Anniversary Hardbound Edition, and on pp. 184-185 of the earlier paperback editions (like my 1987 edition). Perhaps you remember in the movie how the woman advanced screaming, (forgive me, this is from memory) "The Queen of Slime! The Queen of Muck! The Queen of Puuuu-trescence! Boo! Boooooo!" This, of course, is just a guess as to why my little comment triggered something in your head, but that's why I wrote it. Aren't foot notes a wonderful thing? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #52 *******************************************