From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #157 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, December 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 157 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Pop vs. Soda [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: Ottawa to Frucon? [Marie.Claude@canada.com] Re: Canadian film/tv (was fru-gifts) [Marie.Claude@canada.com] Re: either/or (Coke varieties) ["P. Gruneberg" ] Catching up [Angie Armstrong ] Re: Pop vs. Soda [jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn)] Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) [email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (] Re: December Babies (was um...hello...*sproing*) [ross_hendry@bigfoot.com] Re: "Live" attendees? [jennifer@mail.durham.net (Jennifer Burnett)] NYE (not a ticket request) [Loren Becker ] Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) [jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn)] Best Time Of The Year To Get The Best Price On New And Used Music 8237 [] Re: speaking of fru-gifts... [Fru-Monique ] Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) [email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (] PERF: The Hyannis Sound, Dec. 31, Cape Cod ["Warren J Bloom" ] Re: December Babies (was um...hello...*sproing*) [Chad Schrock ] Re: Catching up [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: Amusing things... [Chad Schrock ] Re: Extra paper bits [Elf@wopr.skidmore.EDU (lhunting@skidmore.edu)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:05:18 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: Pop vs. Soda In my years as a burger salesperson, I had many people from Texas enter my establishment asking for an "Orange Coke." Every time I would look at him or her incredulously and say, "You mean you want orange syrup in your Coke?" (we did that - vanilla cokes, chocolate cokes, etc. It was a very old-skool burger joint.) It was my not-so-secret mockery of their idiocy. Working food service had it's hidden joys. Heather Moore, the only Washingtonian who calls it "soda" (because of the influence of her Connecticut friend) >Just kidding, it's just >weird to order a Coke and have someone ask "What kind?" > >jake ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:18:45 GMT From: Marie.Claude@canada.com Subject: Re: Ottawa to Frucon? In article <763t4q$dmm$1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>, Rachel Barreca wrote: > > Thought I'd check in and see if anyone is going to the Frucon from the > Ottawa area, and whether they would have any room in a car to take one > more person? (I am more than willing to share gas costs.) *bounce* *bounce* Fellow Ottawanian! GET IN THE CAR! :) Hugo, do we have a car for FruCon? Marie-Claude CEO of The Ottawa Fruvous Troika Inc. - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:33:54 GMT From: Marie.Claude@canada.com Subject: Re: Canadian film/tv (was fru-gifts) In article <19981227.170500.-453837.0.petit_chou@juno.com>, petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > >Just like Canadian TV shows. :) > >(most of which, I think are *really* cool, btw.) You want cool canuck tv? TRADERS IS IT! I don't care who on stage laughs at me. Traders' cool. Traders have THE most annoying 8-minute-long commercials that you just HATE when you're watching X-Files on Global and aren't familiar with "that show about *banking*". But once you watch it... man. If I don't get to meet Patrick McKenna before I die, I will consider myself a true and complete failure. And if you ask me, they don't make 'em better than Chris Leavins (see also The Hanging Garden). - -- Marie-Claude "Hah! Me and Laura Secord and that guy from that show Traders are gonna kick your butt, Mr. Butterworth!" -- hKath to Richard 12/14/98 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:35:56 GMT From: "P. Gruneberg" Subject: Re: either/or (Coke varieties) Hee hee... but we asked for a Coke at the time... besides, we were still in PA at the time. But I did forget that iced tea isn't sweetened, and only remembered after drinking some. This got me *the* weirdest look from my boyfriend. "Well, dear, of course it isn't..." Any other weird DC things I should keep in mind the next time I visit? :) (no obvious jokes, please!) :) Veronica - is it *that* obvious I'm Canadian? :) aadler1@tiger.towson.edu wrote: > > > THAT'S because you called it the wrong name! You have to call it soda, as all > > those of us in the deecee area know, otherwise of course everything's going to > > be out of whack! > > Aleigh > > This is very true...us DC natives don't stand for this whole "pop" thing! > I had a friend who was relocated from the midwest and refused to convert. > Amazingly, this caused a lot more trouble then one would imagine. It was not > at all uncommon at lunch to hear someone yell "Call it SODA!!!" > > Honestly, if you call it pop out here, you will ruin our fragile but precious > equilibrium :) > > -anna- > http://www.eccentrica.org/elements > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:25:40 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Catching up Whew! Lemme roll up my sleeves, take a huge gulp of coffee, and crack my knuckles before beginning! This is looooong, please to be forgiving, yes? 1. Lori! You got a doumbek!!!! Awesome!!! so now it's you, me and Fruwench jammin' at FrüCon, right??? Too cool, I'll bring all my drummin' notes and stuff (have you drummed before? I've taught a coupla classes and can fax/email you the notes if you like :^) ) I'm happy, I love drummin' and I love findin' drummers!!! whoo hoo! Oh, got your email at my other address too... as far as me and Fordy, don't ask, I don't remember!!! Glad you liked the pics! 2. Heather, being in the SCA we celebrate Twelfth Night and usually groups will hold some type of event for the festivities. I'm going to one such event in Utica on 1/2/99 (*sigh*, Utica... hop skip and jump from Hamilton College... *sigh*...oh, sorry). I didn't include 12th Night/Epiphany because a) religiously I've never celebrated it and b) it's a SCAdian thing to me and I've got that weird George Costanza thing about worlds mixing (though I'm discovering its inevitable and should just ignore it, right Fruwench?) I always leave my decorations up until at least the 2nd weekend in Jan, but that's mostly because that's when things finally calm down enough for me to pack everything away (I finally figured out a way to pack my lights so that they arent' a tangled mess a year later!). This year's decorations are really cool... I have a 3 foot tree with a string of white lights, a strand of gold beads and a strand of red beads, a few small red ornaments and gold star on top. I have a total of 13 candles around the living room... a pair of maroon tapers with a fluted votive holder on my TV, an angel motif votive holder with a pair of Christmas design tapers on the coffee table; a pair of dusky rose tapers in crystal holders, a pair of white tapers in brass holders on the mantle and a pair of tea lights in crystal holders on the mantle; and a rainbow mosaic votive holder on a side table. At midnight on Christmas Eve a lit all the candles and the tree, turned off the lights, and had a glass of white wine... reflected on the year, toasted my friends, family, people in my life, and prominent people in the world. It was the best Christmas I've had since 7th grade. When my dad was dating a woman in Tijuana (yeah, Christmas in Cali), we opened presents on Christmas Eve, then went to Mass at midnight. I've also opened presents on Christmas Morn... the tree was bare of presents until Christmas Eve when we were put to bed, and on Christmas Morning it was full to bursting with presents. Even after I figured out there was no Santa Claus (on my own, early age), we still did it that way for years, something about coming downstairs and the magical tree of endless presents... and my dad would hand out the presents so we had no choice but to open them one by one. These days there are so many cousins and grandkids and such that we have to have a free-for-all or we'd never get through it :^) 3. Doug, regarding Rushmas... I agree with Fruwench on it depending on "how" you celebrate. For instance, fashioning a straw facsimile of TGMIA and setting it on fire... a Rush Pinata full of liquer-filled candies? Pin the tail on the Limbaugh? ;^} 4. Re: Authors... I read a Margaret Atwood novel in College for fun (my roommate had it), but never made the connection until I saw the video in Blockbuster a few weeks ago. It was "The Handmaid's Tale" which was one of my favorite movies (Aidan Quinn, Robert Duvall, Natasha Henderson). The novel was really good too, I would highly recommend! Speaking of Blockbuster, I rented "Stealing Heaven" over the weekend too. It was the right movie, though how I mistook Kim Thompson for Uma Thurman I will never know! I'm a huge softy for sappy love stories so I was happy. 5. Re: Orange Coke... that is most definitely a Texas thing from my experience, someone asked me for one and pointed at the can of Orange Crush... I too have the Pop/Soda debate (Buffalo says Pop primarily, Syracusians say Soda... so I go to college in Rochester where it's half n half). when I order my beverage, I just look at the waitperson and say "Coke or Pepsi?" Or ask for a "Cola." Ever the diplomat I am ;^} 6. My friend Tracey is smuggling authentic Canadian Smarties for me when she gets back from her Holiday travels! Whoo hoo. Depending on how many she brings back, I may toss those in my FrüCon batch of FrüBars ;^) My car is officially dead, and I have this dread that I will be faced with the horrifying decision... New Car vs. FrüCon. *sigh* I may have to severely alter my plans but may still be able to do the 'Con. It would involve calling in a couple of favors and taking advantage of a friend who works for the Toronto Sun (he said he could get me into one of the Lee's shows free). I'm still hoping for the Full weekend, though! Pray for me!!! :^) I hope you all had a great Holiday Weekend. Happy New Year to all you Früfans heading to NYC, and TO, and anywhere in between (or out-between!). I'll still be on-line until Wed, but before I forget if you happen to get near the lads give 'em a hug for me! (Lori, I just may hold you in particular responsible for that task! hahahaha ;^} ) 2. "His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity." - --Actual quote from Federal employee performance evaluations ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: 28 Dec 1998 17:15:38 GMT From: jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn) Subject: Re: Pop vs. Soda > Heather Moore, the only Washingtonian > who calls it "soda" (because of the > influence of her Connecticut friend) ha. ;) Yeah, it's usually pop up here. My parents came from Minnesota and Colorado and both call it pop. A few Easterners I know have corrupted me to the point where I sometimes call it soda, though. it scares me. - - j ;) ------------------------------ Date: 28 Dec 1998 18:26:31 GMT From: email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole Carlson) Subject: Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:08:21 -0500, Chad Schrock wrote: >For Christmas we added about 600 lights, the little coloured ones. >We also had a little tree, deorated with CD-ROMs[1], We did this at my house at school last year. (Two of us were CS majors, the third was also into computers.) One of my housemates had a dot matrix printer, so we saved the paper strips from the sides (remember those?) and used that for tinsel. The other one dipped into her supply of brightly colored 3-1/2" disks. It was the geekiest tree in the world. Ahh, the memories. - --nicole (different house, therefore normal tree this year) twn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:53:13 GMT From: ross_hendry@bigfoot.com (Ross Hendry) Subject: Re: December Babies (was um...hello...*sproing*) On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:48:47 -0500, Chad Schrock wrote: >Ross Hendry wrote: > >> Well, I'm a November baby and I have a great birthday: 11/11/81 >> I only have to remember to change one number and there's no >> problem when it comes to these strange people on the other side >> of the atlantic who write their dates the wrong way around! ;-) > >As opposed to those people on the other side of the atlantic >that drive on the wrong side of the road? > >:) > Hey, we drive on the *right* side of the road! Work that one out! ;-) Ross It's the Galaxies Greatest Comic, Now check out it's web site! http://freespace.virgin.net/g.hendry/ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Dec 1998 19:54:42 GMT From: jennifer@mail.durham.net (Jennifer Burnett) Subject: Re: "Live" attendees? In article <19981222211251.10434.00000440@ng147.aol.com>, jacey7@aol.com says... > >so were any of you "on" Live Noise? My friend and I were at both Buffalo shows. I don't hear us on the CD which is probably a good thing. I'm more of a lip syncer when it come to singing along at concerts. I hate to offend the people next to me. It took my friend and I about three months before we figured out where the photo was taken. Hey we were there too! If you put your finger right next to the picture at stage "Jian" we would be there, just cut out, which is probably a good thing. heeheehee. JennB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:25:25 GMT From: Loren Becker Subject: NYE (not a ticket request) So, I need a favor... Are there any young (meaning under 21) people out there who are bringing parents to the New Year's Eve shows or any of the others that weekend? I know it's a strange request and those of you who know me are laughing at me but if you could e-mail me and let me know I'd really appreciate it. I promise I'm not a scary crazy person...really... /loren ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Why am I not a hero, you ask. Because these days you all have forgotten how to make heroes. Your heroes and heroines are slaves to time. They don't excite wonder and amazement. They don't even attempt to astonish, enchant or amuse. They've forgotten how to be playful and have no appetite for adventure. Sub- zero heroes." --Pauline Melville, from The Ventriloquist's Tale ------------------------------ Date: 28 Dec 1998 21:00:41 GMT From: jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn) Subject: Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) >One of my housemates had >a dot matrix printer, so we saved the paper strips from the sides >(remember those?) and used that for tinsel. Great idea. ;) The Macintosh Bible, back in its early wacky days, once posed the question of what to call that stuff and came up with the term "perfory." I've been calling it that ever since. Does anyone else have a different name for it? Or use for it, for that matter? :) (kindling... making lots of little accordion-fold things...?) - - jenn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:55:26 GMT From: qtwwbo@audiophile.com Subject: Best Time Of The Year To Get The Best Price On New And Used Music 8237 People looking for New and Used Music we have it at our site. 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Shame it's over though. > Lace (Thank you kindly.) > "Cliffs are for climbing; that's why God gave us grappling hooks." > -Benton Fraser Ooooh, now I *have* to contribute to this one. I was sooo glad Due South came to TNT because I was suffering from Sucky TV Syndrome. But does anyone else think that the new Ray from the later series is weird? He just doesn't replace the old Ray. Monique, going to take those cheesy poofs away from Dief. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 28 Dec 1998 21:21:03 GMT From: email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole Carlson) Subject: Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) On 28 Dec 1998 21:00:41 GMT, jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn) wrote: >>One of my housemates had >>a dot matrix printer, so we saved the paper strips from the sides >>(remember those?) and used that for tinsel. >Great idea. ;) >The Macintosh Bible, back in its early wacky days, once posed the question of >what to call that stuff and came up with the term "perfory." I've been calling >it that ever since. Does anyone else have a different name for it? You're all going to laugh, but I swear I'm not making this up. The New Hacker's Dictionary (a.k.a. the Jargon File) insists that it's called "chad". No, really. http://fount.journalism.wisc.edu/jargon/jargon_17.html#SEC24 >Or use for >it, for that matter? :) (kindling... making lots of little accordion-fold >things...?) I remember those! I made many of those when I was but a wee lass. - --nicole twn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:18:45 -0500 From: "Warren J Bloom" Subject: PERF: The Hyannis Sound, Dec. 31, Cape Cod THE HYANNIS SOUND, the ten-man cult of personality cleverly disguised as a vocal band on Cape Cod during the summer season, is proud to be a part of FIRST NIGHT 1999 in beautiful CHATHAM, MASSACHUSETTS for a second year. Three death-defying shows! The date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 The times and places: 5 PM and 7 PM, at the Congregational Church, Main St. Rotary 11 PM, at Holy Redeemer Church, Highland Ave. (If you're wondering: yes, we rock, and no, we're not a religious group!) all in Chatham (at the elbow of Cape Cod) Hip-hop, doo-wop, alt rock, synth pop, big-band swing, soul, folk, and everything in between. Vocal overload in general. If you don't already have plans, or if you're in the area, please join us for one helluva night. First Night HQ is 583 Main St., Chatham. Call (508) 945-1122 for First Night info. The Hyannis Sound's off-season booking address is townsend@el.net. The summer season general contact address is hsound@capecod.net. (Sorry, no Web site... yet.) Happy New Year, yadda yadda yadda. (Kindly DO NOT AUTO-REPLY to this message.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:32:18 GMT From: epbuckley@my-dejanews.com Subject: hey alan! all of you who are not alan can feel free to ignore this message. ;) i saw you sitting up in the balcony (you elitist bastard you ;) at the bayou the other night. i waved a couple times, but you didn't see me. amanda and i were down on the floor... ummm.. stage... don (i am *bummed* that he cut his hair). we bonded with bill wright. rockin show eh? i was really wanting to hear Wooden Music or whatever it's called, but i can understand why they wouldn't have wanted to slow down that show for a mellow song. *sigh* too bad it takes something like the closing of the bayou to bring them together again. peace, ellen - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:32:15 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Extra paper bits In article <3687f4a7.12167659@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org says... > You're all going to laugh, but I swear I'm not making this up. The > New Hacker's Dictionary (a.k.a. the Jargon File) insists that it's > called "chad". No, really. If anybody here remembers what punch cards were - the tiny bits of paper that were the by-product of punching the holes in the cards were also known as "chads." I don't remember where I learned that, but I know it was while I worked with a guy named Chad. k@ head full o' useless facts, at your service ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:08:24 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Pop vs. Soda petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > Heather Moore, the only Washingtonian who calls it "soda" > (because of the influence of her Connecticut friend) Don't worry, we'll fix that for you. :) My former boss was from Michigan (and not in a militia) and always called soda "pop." I kept asking, "You mean Coke, right?" She smacked me 'upside the head. (She was the same one the helped us decorate the office with lots of blinking lights and a big chili-pepper windsox.) - -- chad at radix dot net Forget Coke. Drink Sobe Black Tea. http://www.sobebev.com/ (and the got the name from a place in Quebec.) Nyah. Frucontent by way of Quebec. NyahNyahNyah. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:30:30 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: December Babies (was um...hello...*sproing*) Ross Hendry wrote: > wrote: > >Ross Hendry wrote: > > > >> Well, I'm a November baby and I have a great birthday: 11/11/81 > >> I only have to remember to change one number and there's no > >> problem when it comes to these strange people on the other side > >> of the atlantic who write their dates the wrong way around! ;-) > > > >As opposed to those people on the other side of the atlantic > >that drive on the wrong side of the road? > > > Hey, we drive on the *right* side of the road! Work that one out! > ;-) Simple. Whoever designed/built your roads weren't in their right mind. :) - -- chad at radix dot net well, it makes sense to me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:19:54 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) Nicole Carlson wrote: > You're all going to laugh, but I swear I'm not making this up. The > New Hacker's Dictionary (a.k.a. the Jargon File) insists that it's > called "chad". No, really. > http://fount.journalism.wisc.edu/jargon/jargon_17.html#SEC24 oy vay. I'm a by-product of dot matrix printers. And, if you have a "chad box," you could keep my little bits..... > >Or use for it, for that matter? :) (kindling... making > >lots of little accordion-fold things...?) > I remember those! I made many of those when I was but a wee lass. those were so cool. especially when you use those to decorate a tree with. - -- chad at radix dot net have you ordered your "Star Wars" Lego sets yet? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:52:59 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: Catching up Angie wrote: >2. Heather, being in the SCA we celebrate Twelfth Night and usually >groups will hold some type of event for the festivities... Auuuugh! SCA. Very cool. I was active with the Camlann Medieval Association in Carnation, WA for a little while, but got to busy and it's pretty far away from me. >authentic Canadian Smarties for me... What makes them different? I feel deprived. Heather Moore ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:54:16 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Amusing things... ellen p. buckley wrote: > Chad Schrock wrote: > > ellen, you look *GREAT*. Given your advanced age and all. :) > if only they'd bought it when i tried to pass it off as my ID. > "look, i'm 916! why can't i order a beer?" they were probably just in shock. > > The AACo judge got involved last April when > > I changed my name. > ok, now you've dangled a carrot in front of us. a fresh one, too. > > > (the crusades were cool, but man! that battle of hastings > > > was rough...) > > Especially since you were -4 at the time. Right? :) > hee. ok, so i was never much of a history student. small detail, that. > > Before anyone asks, yes, I have always been a real life chad. > > I just had a lot of excess baggage with it, that I had removed > > in April. > BZZZT. i'm going to need a judge's ruling on this. all you've > done here is shake the carrot around a bit. :) oh, on a completely unrelated topic... today was a big day for me in the Fruniverse: - I got my tickets to the Toronto shows - i have a room in he hotel for the weekend - AND, i have a car for the weekend in California[1] [1] - and do NOT bring up the rampant ageism of the car rental companies. #*%^@*#&)(#%&)(#&)(#%)#(&%!!!!!! > > peace, > ellen (i'm nosy; you have permission to slap me if i prod too much) - -- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:58:23 GMT From: Elf@wopr.skidmore.EDU (lhunting@skidmore.edu) Subject: Re: Extra paper bits Katrin Luessenheide Salyers spake thusly: > > If anybody here remembers what punch cards were - the tiny bits of paper > that were the by-product of punching the holes in the cards were also > known as "chads." actually, the term is a collective noun; a pile of the tiny paper residue is called "chad". (it's like a herd of sheep... except a herd there and a herd here would be two herds and a pile of chad here and a pile of chad there would simply be more piles of chad...) and Univac chad was round whereas IBM chad was rectangular in shape. how's that for arcane information? ttfn, leah */*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #157 ********************************************