From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #139 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, December 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 139 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [none] [lynne@jade.zeal.net] Re: Immigration (was: Gulf War -- Part II) [lesystemed@aol.com (LeSysteme] Re: Indie Tape Auction [lesystemed@aol.com (LeSystemeD)] Re: Gulf War: Take Two (Was Gulf War Part II, Gulf War Song II, etc) [Sr] indie tape [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Gulf War - Part II [fruwench@aol.com (FruWench)] Gulf War -- Part II [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Immigration (was: Gulf War -- Part II) [Snow In Summer , Snow wrote: >It's not as hard as one would think, moving to a "foreign" place. This >may be >a bad example, but in August I left my parents home in small town PA and >moved >to Buffalo... a city in which i knew 1 person. It isn't the easiest thing >to >do... leaving one's friends and family. If your situation is dire enough, >however, you find the hidden strength w/in yourself to put the possible >loneliness behind and do what is best for yourself. And where do you find the four dollars for the bus to the edge of the desert, when you make twelve cents a day? Not to mention getting across that desert. It's hard emotionally to leave one's friends and family when you don't have to worry about starving on the way. Try doing it when you simply cannot find the means to do it, no matter how much danger and suffering you are in. Regards, Steve ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 1998 03:41:23 GMT From: lesystemed@aol.com (LeSystemeD) Subject: Re: Indie Tape Auction In article <19981218194426.12594.00001123@ng138.aol.com>, bodaceah@aol.com wrote: >I don't even think he is >allowed to do this legally, but maybe those of you more knowledgable about >copywrite laws could say for sure. I am talking about the part where he >offers >to make copies for $10. You are not allowed to make copies legally for free, for $10, or for sexual favors. In article , kevin@kevin.research-inc.com wrote: >why do I have this odd feeling that he doesn't have the band's blessing >on this one? > >easiest response? don't get mad, just nobody do it. There's lots of >fruheads with indie tapes who will gladly make copies for free or >for even trades. This will probably be easier and more effective than >wasting bandwidth with angry letters to a guy who obviously just doesn't > >get it. > Do the fruheads with indie tapes have the band's blessing to make the copies for free? Copyright doesn't care if you sell or give away the product. Just asking. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:28:31 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: Gulf War: Take Two (Was Gulf War Part II, Gulf War Song II, etc) Gentle Heather said, >Heather Moore (ducking to avoid the blows of the angry ng'ers) I really do hope no one on *this* ng would be so poisonous righteous as to think less (or come to blows with) Heather if she just disagrees. Don't sweat it, 'ti-chou. - -- Lori "This kind of life makes that violence unthinkable" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:32:49 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: indie tape Jude (bodaceah@aol.com) wrote: > However i received this letter in the >mail today and this is what i have a problem with. I don't even think he is >allowed to do this legally, but maybe those of you more knowledgable about >copywrite laws could say for sure. >Trevor >If anyone is interested in a tape dub with a full colour sleevescan, I can >do them for $10 plus $3 postage." Jude, if I were the recipient of this email I would forward it to moxy@passport.ca faster than my fingers could hit that little "forward" button. Well, almost faster. You know what i mean. :) - -- Lori - - ---------- ------------------------------ Date: 19 Dec 1998 04:37:19 GMT From: fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) Subject: Re: Gulf War - Part II Richard hit the nail on the head with: >but once >you realise that a journalist is spinning you falsety for the sake of making >their report more exciting, sexy, etc then you get cynical about the motives >of >all journalism and don't bother to listen at all You got it Richard. ladywench FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . "For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step and know recesses for it from the fury of the street" - Hart Crane "Chaplinesque" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:40:55 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Gulf War -- Part II Cookie observed: >(It's great to read a newsgroup where > debates regarding the political and moral issues of Operation Desert Fox > are interspersed with debates regarding Murray's pants!) Especially when the same people are participating in both debates. :) (Bipolar? Heck, yes. But in a healthy way. :) ) - -- Lori ******************************* "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index1.html (photos!) http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/sugar.html (chocolate central!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:46:59 GMT From: Snow In Summer Subject: Re: Immigration (was: Gulf War -- Part II) Steve delighted us with: > And where do you find the four dollars for the bus to the edge of the desert, > when you make twelve cents a day? Not to mention getting across that desert. > It's hard emotionally to leave one's friends and family when you don't have to > worry about starving on the way. Try doing it when you simply cannot find the > means to do it, no matter how much danger and suffering you are in. it's found in the same place that i come up with nearly $1000 each month when i only make $750. you don't eat, you use any means possible to survive. i never said that my situation is/was as dire as someone trying to escape a war-torn country. i merely moved out of a home where if i would have stayed, physical violence was a very real possibility. if one's situation is such where he is trying to escape his country, i doubt he would not realise that dying in the process is a risk, a risk that one must seriously consider before making such a decision. i think that if someone chooses to leave their family, their friends, and their homes, he must feel there is not much (if *anything*) to lose. so what more is death? i guess i'm saying that desperation plays a large part in such a decision. the means are only a temporary obstacle. - -Snow, who may not be an Iraqi refugee, but understands desperation all too well. ******************************************************************************* "Life is what happens while you're making other plans." ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:43:17 GMT From: ceelove@ibm.net (Colleen Campbell) Subject: Re: Sad Today (was:[Re: fruvous dreams (yet again)]]) On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:51:41 GMT, drea1@my-dejanews.com wrote: > Sad Today was done as part of the BJ narrative during the first set of the >Friday NoHo show...shocked the heck out of me because I never expected that >it would *ever* be played live...mainly since it's such a, well..*different* >song. It's never been high on my "want to see live" list, but I *am* glad >that it was done. (And done really well too *g*) I adored it. It was one of the few left on my "I'll never ever hear this live, will I?" list, now happily vanquished. > Drea (who is asking Santa for Bittersweet to be performed at FrüCon *hint* (Much as I would adore Bittersweet myself. . .) Guys--please don't assume that Fruvous will be performing at FruCon this year. That was a treat last year, a human treat as Zard would say, but I think we should take that as a privilege, not a given. They'll be performing Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights, and they may need to save their voices. If they can play, great, I'm sure we'll all frighten them again with our appreciation, same as last year; but if they stick to speaking parts this time around, please don't be disappointed with them for honoring their art and not stressing themselves. A rabbity little public service announcement from cee ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #139 ********************************************