From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #129 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, December 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 129 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Starbucks [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: indie tape [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Fruvous dream/nightmare [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: Indie Tape - speaking of the benefits of being in a band... ["d" ] Re: FruGifts for Fruvous [nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (N] Re: California Dreamline [dalevy@aol.com (DALevy)] Dave Matthews Band/Victor Wooten/Moxy Connection? [gmm6797#@servtech.com ] Re: IRC thingie ["^kat^" ] Re: Starbucks [lesystemed@aol.com (LeSystemeD)] Re: Bottom Line shows ["^kat^" ] Re: Starbucks [Caroline ] Re: Dave Matthews Band/Victor Wooten/Moxy Connection? [Chad Maloney ] Re: Fruvous dream/nightmare [jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)] Re: [Re: fruvous dreams (yet again)] [Fru-Monique >> We really oughtta just have retreats at least once a month, all get >together, >> pop popcorn, drink (your choice of beverage) and just jabber at >> each other until we're unconscious. I like I like... =+) Fruchild ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:29:35 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Fruvous dream/nightmare ever had one of those? a moxymare? there are sad and Mindy no like. I can give you the details when I find my dream book but for rite now... I was married to *a lad* =+) and we happaned to have a kid. The kid's name was Raja! LOL! Well either this certain lad or Raja dies but Ive tried to block it Fruchild ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:30:15 GMT From: "d" Subject: Re: Indie Tape - speaking of the benefits of being in a band... Chad Schrock wrote in message <3675DB4C.84C4ED60@radix.net>... >Mulder4213@aol.com wrote: >Quite a while ago, they did one on "Pop CDs." IIRC, the artist >*might* see about $1.00 from the sale of the CD. > > >If you want to read the article, it should be archived on their >web site at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ to get a really good (and frightening) view of what it means, most-of-the-time, to be a band in this beast called "the music industry", check out this morbid (and infromative) piece by the 'infamous' producer steve albini, which is entitled "Some of your friends are probably already this f*cked". if you have a friend in a band or have aspirations of your own along these lines, this is a MUST-READ. http://www.apk.net/cihs/verbal/albini.html ------------------------------ Date: 15 Dec 1998 21:07:10 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Bottom Line shows Regarding the Bottom Line shows, I'm curious if anyone expects anything "different" at the one "all ages" show ... for example, is there a better chance of songs such as "Kids Song" and "Spiderman"? I'm sure they'll do KOS and GE&H there ... those four are among my 8-year-old daughter's favorites, though her second fave song is "Fly" (No. 1 is, of course, KOS) ... I've seen people post about something they do during "Spidey" with kids in the audience - --- could someone elaborate on that for me out of curiosity??? Also, I bought two of the Dan Bern CDs and though I love his stuff, I can't help but think he may not quite lend himself as much to a younger audience. I know that of course the crowd at the Bottom Line for the all-ages show will still be primarily older, but I do wonder if there's a chance that Moxy may be the "headliner" for that one and Dan the opener for that reason (or is this just wishful thinking on my part). By the way, my own fave Chanukah/Xmas song is without a doubt "It's Hard to be a Jew on Christmas" from South Park. I'd love to hear Moxy do that one. Queen Lisa (sad because homemade menorah broke in my suitcase en route to Nashville) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:27:54 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: from I need help to Saturday AM cartoons As was said on IRC last night....I miss Count Duckula and Danger Mouse!!! Fruchild On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:51:17 GMT Angie Armstrong writes: >owner-ammf@smoe.org wrote: >Was it, by any chance, Reboot? If it was, it qualifies as Canadian >content >on the NG -- the show was developed by Canadians. > > >Hey! My ex-bf and I used to watch Reboot on Saturday mornings. That >was a >cool show, neat concept! *sigh* I miss Saturday morning cartoons. >There were >a lot of cool but short shelf-life shows on... one of my faves (that >which >helped launch me into my anime/japanimation love) was one called >Mighty >Orbots... cheesy, but some of the animation was killer (the same >production >company [i think]also did The Bionic 6, an animated $6M man and his >multicultural family). Anyway, there's nothing cool anymore, no >inspiration >to get up before noon. > >Speaking of noon... when I was in middle school and part-way through >high >school on Sat's at noon the now channel 29 in Buffalo used to show the >classic >cheesy monster movies (Godzilla, Godzilla vs. Gamelon, etc), and on >Sunday's >they'd show the cheesy karate-chops (Five Fists of Death, etc). I >love those >movies... I wish they still did that... growin' up was cool, bein' a >grown up >isn't. > >--Angie, strangely inspired to ramble about TV ;^) > > > >"Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 > >____________________________________________________________________ >More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at >http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:08:04 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: just for Steve (re Monster Movies) www.us.imdb.com - a terrible url for me... being the movie junkie that I am just for Steve, to make up for my lack of accuracy... here are the correct titles for the monster movies with Godzilla in the title, American and Japanese: 1.Godzilla (1998) 2.Bambi Meets Godzilla (1969) 3.Gorgo Versus Godzilla (1969) 4.Slammie Bros. vs. Godzilla and Gamera, The (1992) 5.Gojira (1954) ...aka Godzilla (1956) (USA) 6.Gojira (1984) ...aka Godzilla 1985 (1984) 7.Gojira Fuantajî ~SF Kôkyô Fuantajî~ (1984) ...aka Godzilla Fantasia (1984) 8.Mosura tai Gojira (1964) ...aka Godzilla Fights the Giant Moth (1964) 9.Gojira no gyakushu (1955) ...aka Godzilla Raids Again (1955) 10.Gojira-Ebira-Mosura: Nankai no daiketto (1966) ...aka Godzilla Versus the Sea Monster (1966) 11.Gojira VS Mosura (1992) ...aka Godzilla and Mothra: The Battle For Earth (1998) (USA: video title) 12.Gojira VS Biorante (1989) ...aka Godzilla vs. Biollante (1989) 13.Gojira tai Mekagojira (1974) ...aka Godzilla vs. Bionic Monster (1974) (USA) 14.Gojira VS Desutoroia (1995) ...aka Godzilla vs. Destroia (1995) 15.Gojira tai Hedora (1971) ...aka Godzilla vs. Hedora (1971) 16.Gojira VS Kingugidora (1991) ...aka Godzilla vs. King Ghidora (1991) 17.Gojira VS Mekagojira (1993) ...aka Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1993) 18.Gojira tai Megaro (1973) ...aka Godzilla vs. Megalon (1976) (USA) 19.Kaijû daisenso (1965) ...aka Godzilla vs. Monster Zero (1970) (USA: video title) 20.Gojira VS Supesugojira (1994) ...aka Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla (1994) 21.Gojira-Minira-Gabara: Oru kaijû daishingeki (1969) ...aka Godzilla's Leverage (1969) 22.Kingukongu tai Gojira (1962) ...aka King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962) 23.Mekagojira no gyakushu (1975) ...aka Escape of Mechagodzilla, The (1975) 24.Chikyu kogeki meirei: Gojira tai Gaigan (1972) ...aka Earth Assault Order: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972) 25.Kaijû shima no kessen: Gojira no musuko (1967) ...aka Monster Island's Decisive Battle: Godzilla's Son (1967) i hope you will forgive me... *wink* - --Angie "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: 15 Dec 1998 21:48:21 GMT From: lesystemed@aol.com (LeSystemeD) Subject: Cynthia Plaster Caster In article <58721e23.3676c132@aol.com>, Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: >Cynthia REALLY wasn't real? I'm soooo crushed. disillusioned beyond >repair. > Whoa there, that would be going too far. This is a matter of half-remembered tidbits and word associations. Maybe it was Cynthia on Casters, a frog who had supplied a Frenchman's casse-croûte. Regards, Steve ------------------------------ Date: 15 Dec 1998 21:48:21 GMT From: lesystemed@aol.com (LeSystemeD) Subject: Cynthia Plaster Caster In article <58721e23.3676c132@aol.com>, Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: >Cynthia REALLY wasn't real? I'm soooo crushed. disillusioned beyond >repair. > Whoa there, that would be going too far. This is a matter of half-remembered tidbits and word associations. Maybe it was Cynthia on Casters, a frog who had supplied a Frenchman's casse-croûte. Regards, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:02:49 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: [Re: indie tape] <-- not that I'm contributing to this thread owner-ammf@smoe.org wrote: Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > >> We really oughtta just have retreats at least once a month, all get >together, >> pop popcorn, drink (your choice of beverage) and just jabber at >> each other until we're unconscious. You mean... we don't already? ;^) *sigh* well, that's what FrüCon II is for, right? The ultimate FrüHead Retreat!!! wow, only 67 days to go... 8^D - --Angie "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: 15 Dec 1998 12:34:43 -0800 From: "Jason A. Reiser" Subject: Re: Bottom Line shows In article , Chad says... [...] >As for Dan, he has enough songs he can do to fill 6 completely different >shows. So I'm very interested to hear what comes out of him ;) Dan played four shows at the Bottom Line in July and surprised a lot of people by doing four *very* different shows. He did a version of Estelle in 7/30 2nd set that was so much slower than the original that many didn't even realize it was the same song... so slow it was probably about 8 or 9 minutes long. And the next night he played the same song upbeat. He is constantly writing new songs, and has been known to bring his notebook on stage and turn to a totally new song. That 7/30 show was opened by a youngster dressed in cargo shorts and a teeshirt who did a fantastic rendition of Dan Bern's own Tiger Woods. It turns out this was Gerald Bair's son (another area musician who opened for Fruvous at the Sam Goody Instore over the summer.) This is gonna be one hell of a way to ring in the New Year! See ya, Jason jreiser@ecoutez.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:57:05 GMT From: nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: FruGifts for Fruvous On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:03:08 GMT, someone looking suspiciously like Srm9988n@aol.com whispered these words: >Nicole, with your permission I'd like to submit your comments about >this to the man in charge of the website -- okay? I have a feeling it's >old boilerplate that needs to be updated or changed to prevent other >quite legitimate misunderstandings. The MCC community that wrote >it understands what it means, but obviously it's not clear to the >web-world that is now accessing it... Sure. Fair trade is a wonderful cause (I speak as someone who has seen firsthand the difference it would have made in my host village in Paraguay (my host sister earned something like $0.25 for a tablecloth she'd spend a week embroidering--not a good wage, even in Paraguay)). - --nicole twn - -- "It's up to you now if you sink or swim--just keep the faith that your ship will come in!"--Great Big Sea Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is modified to escape the spammers... sorry for the inconvenience. spam trap: postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost root@localhost ------------------------------ Date: 15 Dec 1998 22:10:18 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: California Dreamline >Thank you Doug! I'm glad someone knows the Burbank airport better than >me! I gave the directions I did because I prefer driving on freeways to >side streets or canyons. (All those stop lights on Sunset frustrate me.) There's even a way without snaking through the canyons (though Burbank airport to Laurel Canyon would get you right to Sunset Strip). I'll post generic directions soon as I run them past someone else for accuracy. Doug Levy San Francisco DALevy@NOSPAM.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:16:02 GMT From: gmm6797#@servtech.com (remove # to reply) Subject: Dave Matthews Band/Victor Wooten/Moxy Connection? Hi All, I was surfing the Dave Matthew Band home page http://www.dmband.com and looking at pictures from the road http://www.dmband.com/road/index.html and I cam across this page of pictures: http://www.dmband.com/road/genhtml/a-fall98/vic3.html Victor Wooten is one of the greates bass players in the world and plays in Bela Fleck and the Flecktones..... apparently when Bela Fleck and the Flecktones were on tour with DMB, Victor was out taking pictures and see what he came accross which made it onto the DMB WWW page Pretty cool if I say so myself! Mosy is known everywhere... any one know who that is in the picture with the cool tee shirt? Greg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:41:22 -0500 From: "^kat^" Subject: Re: IRC thingie >Making company names possessive is also a Michigan thing. Many people will >tell you that they work at Ford's or Chrysler's (now Daimler-Chrysler's). >:) Those two examples are fairly limited to the very working class, but >everybody around here says K-mart's, Meijer's, Ward's, Kroger's, Farmer >Jack's etc. uhh... you mean it's *not* meijer*'s*? ;p ^kat^, from ohio & proud of it "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" ------------------------------ Date: 15 Dec 1998 22:35:01 GMT From: lesystemed@aol.com (LeSystemeD) Subject: Re: Starbucks In article <19981215.161938.-175681.3.SHAZALINREA@juno.com>, shazalinrea@juno.com wrote: >K. I dont get to go to many shows... What did Starbucks do? Why are >they bad? From the averse I feel coming from you guys on this topic, I >guess I'm glad that I've never had Starbucks > I'm puzzled, too. Starbucks may sell pisswater and tell you that you just don't appreciate the european style of coffee, but I was under the impression that they treated their employees extremely well, especially compared to other fast-food employees. Is it their coming into neighborhoods where other independent coffee shops then go out of business? I've heard some complaining about this, but I can't take it seriously -- competition is what it is. As for the over-roasted coffee (definitely *not* european-style), I don't have to drink it, and I don't. What do the lads find repugnant about Starbucks? Regards, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:30:01 -0500 From: "^kat^" Subject: Re: Bottom Line shows >>As for Dan, he has enough songs he can do to fill 6 completely different >>shows. So I'm very interested to hear what comes out of him ;) > >Dan played four shows at the Bottom Line in July and surprised a lot >of people by doing four *very* different shows. <...>He is constantly writing new songs, and has been >known to bring his notebook on stage and turn to a totally new song. well, i'm excited now. having heard ceecee's gushing & the enthusiasm of all the others on this list, i have a feeling that i'll be pleasantly surprised by this dan bern fellow when i hear him on NYE. i'll wait to get a cd until *after* the concert, tho', on the off chance i might not enjoy it... >This is gonna be one hell of a way to ring in the New Year! you're telling me! midwest-girl-in-big-city-to-see-favorite-band-on-new-year's-eve... it doesn't get much better than that. :) putting in her plug now for "fell in love" on the late show NYE (please? i'm asking nicely...)-- ^kat^ "of recklessness and water" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:31:44 GMT From: Caroline Subject: Re: Starbucks >What do the lads find repugnant about Starbucks? I had several friends who worked at Starbucks, and I know they were treated well at the job - that's not the issue. What they don't like about Starbucks is the fact that they buy their coffee from growers who treat *their* workers very unethically. There was a thread on this at some point in the last couple months, and someone posted the URLs of some (very interesting) articles about Starbucks' plan to ensure ethical treatment of growers which - here's the bad part - they never followed through on. Someone correct me if i'm wrong here, please! ~Caroline ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm just looking for a place to watch the world from... -Dan Bern ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:45:59 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band/Victor Wooten/Moxy Connection? Greg wrote: > I was surfing the Dave Matthew Band home page http://www.dmband.com > and looking at pictures from the road > http://www.dmband.com/road/index.html and I cam across this page of > pictures: > http://www.dmband.com/road/genhtml/a-fall98/vic3.html Aww, they forgot the caption to the third picture: Future Man: "Hey Vic, when they kill off that Foster guy and the band is propelled to super-stardom because of it, you know what band we should go join? I'll give you a hint." Either that or: Future Man: "I was gonna poke this guy in the tummy, but he put his arms in the way!" - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 16 Dec 1998 00:19:14 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Band/Victor Wooten/Moxy Connection? If I may throw in my tiny little brush with fame here ... two years ago, my hubbie, daughter and I were at the Frederick (Md.) Crafts Fair and there was a roving magician entertaining the crowd with card tricks. He pulled me out of the group to participate and I had to give a playing card to someone else in the crowd. I handed it to a guy who just caught my eye because he was so fascinating looking ... and a half-hour later I saw him on stage and realized it was Victor Wooten -- Bela Fleck and the Flecktones were the featured artist at the concert. Okay, so maybe "brush with fame" is overstating the fact ... ------------------------------ Date: 16 Dec 1998 00:00:52 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Holiday magic Exams make me very bitter about the holidays (yes, I'm *still* whining about that - until tommorrow @ noon. ) so I don't know where I'd be without the Worms Christmas album. I think the world can never have too many decent Christmas albums. Or funny ones. I am the "proud" owner of the Jingle Cows Christmas. Basically a bunch of cows mooing Christmas carols. Must be heard to be believed. I use it to torture my housemates. By the way - it was a gift. You honestly think I'd pay money for something like that?! ) Veronica (who shudders at the thought of going back to her parents house on Thursday and being subjected to the Neil Diamond Christmas album for the next three weeks.) - -- *************************************************************************** "Hey Mr. Santa Claus, | Veronica Gruneberg I believe in you because | Dept. of Biology last year all my parents got me | Queen's University was a trip to Missisagua!!" | Kingston, Ontario - Arrogant Worms ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:53:08 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: Fruvous dream/nightmare On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:29:35 GMT, shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) wrote: >ever had one of those? a moxymare? there are sad and Mindy no like. I >can give you the details when I find my dream book but for rite now... I >was married to *a lad* =+) and we happaned to have a kid. The kid's name >was Raja! LOL! Well either this certain lad or Raja dies but Ive tried >to block it > >Fruchild >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Yes, I've had several bad Moxy dreams. They usually involve a death and I wake up crying. Quite disturbing! (But I've had many many happy Moxy dreams so there's the silver lining!) Andrea K. "I was your fountain of youth and you were my mountain of truth. But, you have drunk me dry and I'm afraid of heights." - The Nields ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:53:14 GMT From: Fru-Monique Subject: Re: [Re: fruvous dreams (yet again)] Angie told me, > Nay dear, you are most certainly not the only one who dreams Früvous... tho > they've not graced my Never Never Land in a while. Neverland? Boy, that takes me back to the stories my friends and I wrote about pirates in high school..[nudge nudge, Juliette!] I posted my very detailed dream about Moxy > Früvous Dolls (not dolls, action figures!). Including (and this _still_ > cracks me up) the Jian Doll with real combable hair! LOL!! That's a riot! I'll give a very edited version of my favorite dream: I was at a concert, and the lads wandered offstage and around the audience to sing "Boo Time." But they decided to perform wearing nothing but their hats and black speedos... There's more to this sordid tale, but it's quite raunchy and not for the place where certain Frumembers stop by...... ~Monique, of course > "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 How can we be scared of him, really? ;) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 16 Dec 1998 01:22:23 GMT From: kdsinthhal@aol.comatose (KdsInThHal) Subject: Re: Attention Rochester-folk... everytime i come here there's a thread with rochester in the title. :) aw shucks, i'd like to go but... if you get a chance to talk to the guys, tell them some They Might Be Giants fans all across the country are digging their cd... (i got one of the unlabeled demo cd's at the fruvous show, hehe..) :)sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "i want me gold" --- conan o'brien ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:10:14 GMT From: Christi218@aol.com Subject: Re: indie tape/Cat Stevens/with a groupie on the side In a message dated 98-12-15 15:34:43 EST, Srm9988n@aol.com writes: *snip* > Or was that George Michael? (I have no idea really, > except I *think* -- > that's the operative word there -- that one of G.M.'s former > names was Georgiou...) < digression just meant to add > to general confusion ;-) I believe George Michael's real full name is Georgios ("Yorgos") Kyriacos Panayiotou. Um....I'm not sure why I know that...I mean..I was a *Duran Duran* fan. ;-) /me hides her old 1980s copies of 16 Magazine and Tiger Beat Christine. - --Chrissy_K on irc *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Christi218@aol.com & bh108@freenet.buffalo.edu - --Diet soda? - --No thanks. FREAKED!!!!!!!!!! - --Fiddle Faddle? Elijah to Ricky - --Alright.....delicious. 1993 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #129 ********************************************