From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #102 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, December 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 102 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Nature Sounds of NGs [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] either/or (attn Vika delete now) [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: back in the US [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] woe is me... [Angie Armstrong ] Re: Frtripping/Frshow Highlights of 98... [hKatherine@ehmail.com] Re: either/or [Alan Sigman ] TONYE last call! [Marie.Claude@canada.com] FruTripping/ '98 highlights etc [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Either/Or [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: Either/Or [Alan Sigman ] Gulf War Song: it still applies [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Nature Sounds of NGs [Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca>] either/or also: the ethics of pet-keeping [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Either/Or [Dagonet ] Re: Either/Or (attn Vika: delete now) [schr9271@fredonia.edu] Another Pointe-Claire Review [nafio@my-dejanews.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Dec 1998 17:06:05 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Nature Sounds of NGs Man, Monique, do I understand the pre-exam hell. Why do professors always try to cram a whole lot of assignments into the last possible shred of time? Not like I need to *study* or anything. Wrote 3 papers last week, and in two short hours I write a 100% anatomy final (SOB, as I curl up in the fetal position!!) Anyone know what an arm is?! Oh, and as for the older thing... I'm starting to discover it's not all it's cracked up to be (and I'm not even that old) This "adult responsibility" thing gets wearing after a while. Although, it's very frustrating to be legal for everything here, and then travel down to the states and suddenly be underage. (also frustrating when your boyfriend makes fun of you for it.) Oh well, in 11 days I shall have my revenge... :) Veronica (who wishes that today were over already... nope, wait, two more finals day after tommorrow. Strike that. I wish it was yesterday.) - -- *************************************************************************** "Hey Mr. Santa Claus, | Veronica Gruneberg I believe in you because | Dept. of Biology last year all my parents got me | Queen's University was a trip to Missisagua!!" | Kingston, Ontario - Arrogant Worms *It's cool in many ways to be Canadian..." Arrogant Worms* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:30:35 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: either/or (attn Vika delete now) Lace amused us again: ok, one more: Wallace or Gromit? (just an I Wonder If Anyone Knows What I'm Talking About question) well, of course we know. It is our consuming interest to know all sorts of fascinating non-mainstream highly artistic quality stuff!!!! But asking me to choose one is like asking me to choose a Frulad. As Angie said, when you get 4 for 1 (or even 2 for 1) why turn any of them down? Each is adorable. More of Lace's comments/q's >> - Melrose or 90210? >Sorry but I gag at the thought of either one. See, I think it's mebbe a (well, not generation, but demi-generation) thing, but this is *exactly* how I feel about > But Dawson is just downright *addictive*. But i think Heather (of the ridiculous-name battle) is with Lace on this one. Heather? >(Curling? That's like glorified housekeeping...) I can only wish Ii had a mermaid to clean my house of dustbunnies! :) >>...and to squeez in a smidge of Fruvous content *gasp from the crowd* >Alright, be that way... >Cedric or Marion? Marion >Sam-I-Am or Mr Cheese? Sam and I have fun together! but I admire Cheesy's unorthodox stands. >Sahara or Raja? *sniffle* if I ever heard Sahara live, I might be able to make a legitimate choice... >Kasparov or Deep Blue? the man, not the machine >Nuits or Morphée? Nuits, although Morphe'e more closely resembles sleepy ol' me. and can anyone tell me why I've had Bed and Breakfast runnin through my head for two days straight? >Larry or Barry? again, choosing is hard when they're both so lovable. :) >>mashed or baked? >mashed practically any potato is a good potato. but if they're baked, they can't be wrapped in foil (which in fact is steamed), which rules out most restaurant baked, which is why I take mashed or fried when dining out.... >>phone or email? >email >ditto. >>book or hypno-gourd? >book My inner Luddite begs: what the heck is a hypno-gourd? Which I believe answers the question by default :) >"And *do* you heart Canadian boys?" >- -Ed Robertson 7/22/98 Of course I do, and have since the age of 11! (I know, I know, that wasn't really part of the survey...) - -- Lori ******************************* "fru gud me sleep now" -- Dante B. "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming." - -- Forest for the Trees "Cache' dans les bras de Morphe'e je re`gne Ne'mo en exile." Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: 8 Dec 1998 17:18:44 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: back in the US I still say Canadians don't have an accent :P (hee hee! Just residual reaction to my Australian housemate who giggles whenever I say the words "out", "about" or "house", and my American boyfriend who makes everyone he knows listen to BNL because "they say "sorry" the same way you do!" Guess that happens when you grow up about 20 km apart.) :) Veronica - hey, anyone want to write an anatomy final?!..... didn't think so. - -- *************************************************************************** "Hey Mr. Santa Claus, | Veronica Gruneberg I believe in you because | Dept. of Biology last year all my parents got me | Queen's University was a trip to Missisagua!!" | Kingston, Ontario - Arrogant Worms *"It's cool in many ways to be Canadian..." Arrogant Worms* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:43:03 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: woe is me... Angie here... had another Monday yesterday. This was bad. Why do the fates insist on this continuous testing? Anyway, I gave in to a craving for Chinese food, and hopped in my car and got on the expressway. 2 exits before my destination... the oil light comes on. One exit away, this nasty grinding scraping happening under the hood. I get to the exit and if there weren't cars coming I could have coasted to the parking lot of Pep Boys... but no, there were 6 cars and I had to stop and the car promptly stalled. Attempted to start it, and really miserable sounds coming out. My friend Phillip came to rescue me, he coasted the car to the parking lot at the bottom of the hill, and I had a temper tantrum all over the back hatch which resulted in a pair of slightly sprained wrists (now I remember why I don't throw tantrums that often). Good thing my Früvous dance card is clear until Feb. *sigh* Hi Caroline, sounds like you had a blast this weekend! I forgot the kicker ending to the Hamilton Jaunt. On the way home Taryn and I were talking and both looked up to see a deer standing in the middle of the road... just standing there. She swerved but got its haunches with her left front bumper. Couldn't see if it ran away (I've known occasions where deer are much more sturdy than the cars that hit them), we didn't have the heart to check the grill when we got home. How's the Civic, Taryn? I must say I'm feeling decidedly melancholic right now, tho my Excel class is going wonderfully. My friends are all making fun of me because I've been running around the past 3 days showing anyone with 2 minutes to spare my pics with the guys. I just wish my eyes weren't so damned big... sheesh. Anyway, what I wouldn't do for just one more concert to lift my spirits... at this point I couldn't afford to go anyway 'cause of Fang repairs (Fang being the name of my car) Guess I'll hafta hold my breath til February... then it's a free-for-all! I did get a rather painful pun-story about the death of the Pillsbury Dough Boy today, that made me chuckle. heh heh. - --Angie, uncharacteristically blue Like a stone in a stream, Life smooths all our edges 'til we barely make a ripple anymore --Edwin McCain ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:35:46 GMT From: hKatherine@ehmail.com Subject: Re: Frtripping/Frshow Highlights of 98... In article <74g7mi$4iv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, drea1@my-dejanews.com wrote: Anyone else want to add their highlights from this year? :) > Some personal Frütripping highlights: OK, I think this'll be fun so I guess I'll do it much like Drea... considering only a bit less than 90% of the shows I've seen happened this year, tho, you may find I'm rambling quite a bit ;) OK- January- Carleton U, Ottawa: "Resin"; the damn snowstorm outside; hearing "Let It Snow" during the sound check; the guy who dropped his cigarette in my bag during the Drinking Song; the cute-but-tight-ass security guy who wouldn't let me back in to buy a T-Shirt after the show (OK, don't want this to be turning into a KITA thread, now...) February- Frucon n'stuff: Well, *meeting* everyone; Beth from LA ;) James Joyce pub; Drinking Song; lawn darts; That's Any Good; Poor Napoleon; the raffle; *meeting* everyone; Dave's violin; diving over tables and chairs at Lee's Palace (oh, boy, what memories!!); getting my name ;) meeting Ashley MacIsaac and freaking him out; singing Authors along the street while on a payphone with my parents. May- National Gallery: meeting Tobey; meeting Rosemary; staying out in the sun too long (trippy!); my mom's crush on Mike; hearing La Complainte d'un phoque en Alaska for the first time; The Collection; cheering for Cal when he helped the performer before Fruvous. July- Harbourfront: meeting Hugo for the first time, even though we live in the same town; Sahara; Marion Fruvous (with obligatory short content); hearing I Will Hold On, Pisco and Sad Girl for the first time; inventing the Pisco dance with Angel and MC (who'd've thunk it?) Pointe-Claire: the beginning of the "Spot the Fruvan" contest for MC and I (for those interested, the score is now 3 to 1 for *her*); them yummy fries; The Wells; Mike's "masseuse" story; the whole "auditorium" formation which puzzled me so; Oh, yeah! Hearing Laika!! and Nuits De Rêve!; Mike Nash; Dave and the tequila incident; Dave describing the Kingston Folk Fest as a "Mickey Mouse' festival. Kingston: beating the lads there by a couple hours; Rosemary!!; Dip-Bowl; meeting Gowan; the musical quiz; hearing Blow Wind Blow for the first time; I Shall Be Released with the whole of the festival performers; "It's nice to know you're using your diaphragm." August- Mel Lastman Square: Getting there a day early and going to see the Irish Descendants (their bass player *still* looks like a plumber, I say!); making a picnic; getting ridiculed for my cooking skills; Jack Lalaine; Shania; that cute little blond girl with the Wood poster; tea with Vika and AJ; the lettuce incident. Burk's Falls: A nice-smelling theater in Gravenhurst; "Woodward" "Oh, you must be Josh!"; Spiderman!; the accordian workshop with the David Matheson fan club; the eight-foot stage; Fell In Love; the Beer Tent Gang; Smurves; Sunday morning; Channeling Dave; blueberries on the road; pulling into Tim Hortons to find Tim Hortons. Taste of the Danforth: meeting Myriam; getting rained out (it was hot, OK?); leaving for an hour and a half (Fruheads, we're hopeless); Marie-Claude's little octopus at the restaurant; Jian seeing us there and estimating that there were "like, 80 people there!" (more like 15...); seeing Rosemary smoke a cigar. Summerfolk: Jimmy the Drum Guy; Fish on a bun; Jian's Arrogant Worms-bashing song; vodka... lotsa vodka; hearing Pisco at the workshop; watching the Arrogant Worms answer the same questions Fruvous got in Kingston during the musical quiz; the festival goat; seeing Martin Sexton for the first time!!! Ottawa Folk Festival: Jian screwing up GE&H; turning around during Minnie and seeing all those hands waving; pissing off the festival staff; running from the rainstorm on the pier; Jian's sweater exchange; THE LUXOR (especially the Bowie songs. And That's Any Good. And Poor Napoleon.); "It's like Abbey Road, only we're all naked." October- Noho: the buildup alone; getting the keys locked in the trunk in Vermont; BJ's travel theme (still in my head sometimes); waiting in line for ages with people I love; the proposal; Pixel's car; good food at the diner; all the cool costumes; seeing the guys with cheesy makeup on; Dave spilling beer down the front of his shirt during the show; La Complainte d'un Phoque en Alaska (*puppyeyes*); Bowie song!!; actually, ALL the covers; the drive back ("DEER!"); meeting someone who knows Rose at the diner in Gloucester after coming home. December- Pointe-Claire: pulling off surprises for MC's birthday (*G*); getting surprised myself!; yummy chicken wings; seeing The Wells for the second time; getting to stand this time (no auditorium formation! Yay!); playing pool and air hockey; having chinese food at a ridiculous hour of the night; barely sleeping and winding up visiting my Zellers brothers early the next morning, just to say hi (hey, I had nothing else to do, everyone else was asleep). OK, I know this went on way too long and ws probbly way too personal, but I think I'd like to read others too. :) hKath, posting way too much lately. - -- "Don't you hate it when you find out your ex-girlfriend's not fat anymore?" -- Topon Das - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:08:00 GMT From: Alan Sigman Subject: Re: either/or Cameron Ross wrote: > >>>paper or plastic? >Niether I just have to ask - how do you get your groceries home? -Alan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:13:10 GMT From: Marie.Claude@canada.com Subject: TONYE last call! Last call for the Toronto Fruhead New Year's Eve bash! The details have been confirmed and all we need now are the official RSVP's. Those already on the list, you will receive the RSVP by email. Those who wish to be on said list, email me. Thanks to all of you who made this simple little gathering into a full-fledged party :) Marie-Claude marion@ehmail.com - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:25:52 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: FruTripping/ '98 highlights etc ellen wrote: >this is so odd. how do you all remember so much detail from each show? by the >next day, the whole thing is usually condensed in my head to a single thought: >wow. if i'd actually lived through any part of the sixties (aside from in >utero), i'd worry that i did too many drugs in the sixties. that drug's called FruBliss. (Like Ecstasy, but....different!) And I've taken it too, which is why I started writing reviews -- just so I'd have SOME memory of the event that was mine, not distilled from other people's reviews. (I've always been one of those write-it-down-and-you'll-remember-it people -- it's how I always studied French vocab and conjugations.) Anyway, i am going to contribute to this thread (you were all afraid of that, weren't you??) but first I have other stuff to catch up on. Man, being sick for 36 hours takes like four days off your week!! Where's the logic in that? - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: 8 Dec 1998 18:28:04 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Either/Or >>Mulder or Scully? >*shhh* You know what? I'm never seen the show. I've seen a few bits and >pieces and I can't say I was impressed. Is there *anyone* else out there who >doesn't watch it?>> She raises her hand ... and I've never seen "Star Wars" either, to name but two of the pop culture standards. I may, however, have a kinda-sorta cool connection to David Duchovny (not sure, we haven't been able to confirm this). My grandmother came over to America from Russia when she was 12, escaping from the progroms in which her brother was killed (her parents both died of the plague within a week of each other so she and her other brother were orphans). They came over here posing as the children of another man int he village whose name was Duchovne and in fact that's the name on her passport and in her high school yearbook. My aunt thinks it's the same family ... sorry for lack of Frucontent (though I bet if I thought really hard I could come up with something). Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:20:48 GMT From: Alan Sigman Subject: Re: Either/Or "Bell-occhio" wrote: >>Mulder or Scully? >*shhh* You know what? I'm never seen the show. I've seen a few bits and >pieces and I can't say I was impressed. Is there *anyone* else out there who >doesn't watch it? I don't. But then I don't watch much TV at all. I saw part of an episode once or twice and found it very disturbing, not something I'd want to watch every week. But to each his own. >>...and to squeez in a smidge of Fruvous content *gasp from the crowd* >Alright, be that way... >Cedric or Marion? Marion. Have they ever performed Cedric live? >Sam-I-Am or Mr Cheese? Sam-I-Am. How could I pick anyone who would dis the Beatles? >Sahara or Raja? Raja. Of course they're both great songs, but Raja really blows me away. >Kasparov or Deep Blue? Kasparov. >Nuits or Morphée? Nuits; one of the few songs that can really move me even though I don't understand a single word of it. >Larry or Barry? huh? Whatever this is in reference to went right over my head. -Alan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:15:28 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Gulf War Song: it still applies Our gentle Fruchild wrote a tale of woe about a Very Bad Day, starting with the death of a classmate and little reaction thereto by her peers, continuing through female genital mutilation in Africa/Middle East, winding up with the prospect of watching for the second time film clips of civil rights marchers being hosed down. (Sorry for the encapsulization, Mindy, but it was long.) Her questions: >>Guys, what is wrong with the world today? and >>Everyone looked at me like I was insane. Am I? Was I truly supposed >>to be desensitized more, or is this truly as terrible as I make it to be? Cameron responded: >That can be expected, unless there were friends of his in your class, >maybe not even then. I find that most of time people like to keep their >grieving till when they are alone, or with other friends/family of the >person. Also teh shock of it... I personally would not believe it had >happened Good point Cameron. Everyone deals with grief differently, and there is no right or wrong. Mindy, not having known the person who died, may have been able to express immediate, pure shock at the seemingly arbitrary loss much more readily than his acquaintances. Perhaps some of these people genuinely were not affected -- and yes there is cause for worry there -- but I'll bet a lot of them were hurting but unable to express it at the time, in that company. >Female Genital Mutilation... lemme get the stats from law class... "Each >year an estimated two million girls from the practice of female genital >mutilation, only 12 countries have legislated against the practice" It's >horrible I agree There has been a lot of discussion of this in the international forum, with Canada and the US debating at length whether women -- especially the mothers of young daughters -- can be considered refugees for trying to escape this type of discrimination/persecution. Both countries have been reluctant to interfere based on "religious practices" and "cultural norms" of other countries, which I consider hogwash -- no, we can't write their laws, but we can offer protection to any of their citizens seeking it! This is an issue that's been around for several decades on the international scene, and it's only getting more publicity -- which really does stir outrage; it's one of the few things that most North Americans, of whatever political stripe, seem to agree is so barbaric that our countries ought to at least offer refuge to those trying to flee it. >All that stuff, whether racist, sexist, or anything else completly >disgusts me, and I think this is true with everyone.... everyone here that >is. I do think that you might be a little less desensitized more then >most people though. I don't know about that. Perhaps Mindy is just more expressive of her gut feelings, more readily. Many of us have the controls in place that, no matter how horrified we are, we don't burst into tears in the classroom over the situation. But I do remember bursting into tears over the MOVE fire in Philadelphia in 1985; being sickened unto vomiting over the racist murder in Texas last spring and then Matthew Shepard this fall, and lying awake nights unable to purge one in-the-news horror or another from my mind. That I do these things at home, instead of in the supermarket or classroom, might mean I have a method of temporary coping in place -- but I'm not sure it's a bad thing to have Mindy or someone else reminding people that these really are horrific events. Displacing our horror until we're alone is perhaps less effective at combating these forces. If more people felt comfortable reacting so strongly in public, it might help those who are feeling like they're just "oversensitive" realize that no, it's not them; these are horrible things, things that most people do care about changing or preventing in the future; and if they want to do something more active, rather than just feel sickened by it, there's perhaps more support out there for that point of view than they've been led to expect by the lack of overt, public emotion. Just my point of view, as someone who's spent the last few years trying *not* to stop up my emotions. In my experience repression is a pretty unhealthy thing; it can be far healthier to embarrass yourself by crying in public -- and, especially in situations where the emotion is coming from a common experience, rather than other people thinking you're "insane", sometimes they'll wonder where you get the inner strength to do it. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: 8 Dec 1998 18:10:59 GMT From: Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Nature Sounds of NGs Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote: : Man, Monique, do I understand the pre-exam hell. Why do professors always : try to cram a whole lot of assignments into the last possible shred of time? : Not like I need to *study* or anything. Wrote 3 papers last week, and in two : short hours I write a 100% anatomy final (SOB, as I curl up in the fetal : position!!) Anyone know what an arm is?! I could use a few extra arms right now...argh - I'm on my last paper (of 4) and I have two exams to study for that are on Thursday. And in four days none of this information is ever going to be relevant to me again. What on earth is the point? : *It's cool in many ways to be Canadian..." Arrogant Worms* And so confusing too...on Friday, girls were wearing tank tops! (I still claim it wasn't *that* warm out, but it was pretty damn warm) - today, it's snowing. And I can't even blame it on El Nino anymore. Sara _______ The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:45:30 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: either/or also: the ethics of pet-keeping Ladywench protested: >>When you come home to a cat, the cat >>opens one >>eye, looks at you as if to say "oh, you're back", and goes back to sleep. >Oh not true!!! My kittens are always at the door to greet me when I get home >and purrr and snuggle and are just SO happy to see me. Agreed. the little fuzzballs are among the most attentive critters on earth, as long as they are of the opinion that you are "their" person. If you're not, fuggeddabouddit. And they are the ones to make the decision, not you. I respect that. On a related topic, while I was sick Steve (LeSysteme) wrote a long piece about was it proper to keep pets. Well, I might agree with him if this were ten thousand years ago -- what right did humans have then to domesticate other creatures for their use? but you know what, it's not ten thousand years ago. The deed's been done, and there are skazillions of little critters out there who would be completely bereft and probably dead without their human companions. My cats are not oppressed. They have a wonderful, well-fed, nurtured life; I love them, and they at least like me back. I keep them warm, fed, amused, and stimulated. And as three shelter kitties, if I hadn't come along I pretty much know they'd all be dead by now. As for being kept indoors, one actively wants to go out, and I feel sorry for him but I can't do it -- he's already gotten lost (and trapped in an empty house for a week) once. One goes out but only within a clearly-defined perimeter that is safe (he was more adventuresome as a youngster, but he and I worked out what was tolerable for both of us.) And the baby, Pixie, is quite content to exist within walls. She was a street kitty, born in December and picked up by the shelter in Philadelphia in April, and those 4 youngest months of her life must have been horrific. She RUNS from open doors, and trembles whenever I have to take her outside. So if somebody thinks I'm oppressing her by keeping her as a pet, a living, highly amusing Furby/throw pillow ...well, I might be, but she seems to think it's heaven compared to any alternative, so I don't feel bad. In fact I feel quite good about it. - -- Lori, passionate about shelter animals ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:33:17 -0500 From: Dagonet Subject: Re: Either/Or On 8 Dec 1998, BBWMinors wrote: > >>Mulder or Scully? > >*shhh* You know what? I'm never seen the show. I've seen a few bits and > >pieces and I can't say I was impressed. Is there *anyone* else out there who > >doesn't watch it?>> Me. I've seen it once. I hate it. Gillian whatever her name is is OK, but David Duchovny has all the acting talent of an avocado. I also don't like DS9 and Voyager. :) I have, however, seen every episode of Bab5, and cried at _Sleeping In Light_. ObFru: Fruvous needs to play a 23rd century rock band on _Crusade_. D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:48:40 GMT From: schr9271@fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Either/Or (attn Vika: delete now) > o/~This is the thread that never ends... Yep, I'm still at it. C'mon, I love > this stuff... But I think I'm tapped out on questions. (Did I > hear someone say "Finally!"?) > > ok, one more: Wallace or Gromit? > (just an I Wonder If Anyone Knows What I'm > Talking About question) Cracken' show, that Wallace and Gromit!!! I can decide between them so I'l say this....Shaun!!! speaking of such (yes this does have fru-content)...I've been tossing around the idea of applying for an intrenship with Aardman Animations (the folks who do W and G). However, the only studio of such is in Bristol, England. I'm all for it...but the reaction of others differ slightly.....observe: me: Oh I might be going to England for an intership... first response from.... parents: um...well...good for you honey...You must do what you can for your future. friends: cool!! that's sounds great!! fru-heads: What will you do with out fru shows?????? um...Ok, I thought it was amusing....^_^ Perhaps between Richard and my self we can create a transporter that will zap us to any fruvous destination at the push of a button....then again....perhaps I should just stop smoking so much crack before reading the NG *just a joke ^_^* Amy (me thinks finals are slowing killing my brain) "Alright! Who fruvoused the cat?" ~Mike Ford - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:29:53 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Another Pointe-Claire Review I'm not all that motivated to write this review anymore but a) I'm procrastinating and b) I feel I should. Well as some of you know things started on Monday when I finally caved and told Sigrid to confirm our train tickets. Now all that I had to do was keep George and Marie-Claude from finding out about this for a week. Turned out to be quite easy *g* Friday night I arrived in Toronto, stayed with Sigrid, met her nice roommate, Michelle and did the obligatory stay-up-much-too-late thing. Woke up at 5:45 on Saturday morning. Cold, dark and raining out. Fun. We ran for the subway station and got to Union station about 3 minutes early. Things are looking up. I don't sleep well on things what move so while Sigrid caught up on her sleep I checked out the scenery, listened to the Mel Lastman show and Robbie Williams' new album "I've Been Expecting You". (Which, after hearing the new songs, I'm going to have to reccomend to the guys. A North American release is expected sometime early next year) The conductor was in a good mood, and I had a hard time keeping a straight face when he joked with a small group of Canadiens fans who were going to Montreal to see the game. Sample:"You like Celine Dion? Don't you know she's really a man?" *g* Once we got to the hotel (11:30) we had been hoping we could check in, rest up in the room and then come down to freak out Marie-Claude when she arrived. Slight snag - the room was in George's name and the desk clerk told us he had to be the person to check in. We left our bags at the desk and went to the mall. 3 cheers for Tim Hortons! At 3 pm we returned to the hotel to find ChrisO sitting in the lobby looking slightly bored. He was having the same problem we were. Introductions were made and we all signed Marie-Claude's birthday card. Not long afterwards the birthday girl arrived... and stared *g*. Phase one of Operation Freak-Out went rather well. As 4 o'clock neared, with no sign of George, we pleaded with a new desk clerk who repeated "I'm sorry but you can't.. unless one of you has a credit card to hold the room?" #$$*% Of course I had a credit card. Problem solved we dumped our bags in the room, left a message and spare key for the absent Mr Nowick and piled into Chris' car for Clyde's. Reason we couldn't find George? He'd been at Clyde's for 2 hours waiting for us. *g* Said hello to Adam, Nate and whoever else was there. George was suitably freaked out... more so by O'Malley than by Sigrid and myself though. But the biggest doubletake came when George said to me.. GEORGE: Is that Jeff? FIONA:No, that's Doug Levy FIONA: THAT'S DOUG LEVY! I think Doug was pleased with the success of HIS surprise *g*. Many many unexpected Fruheads showed up, including Kevin Way and the Smithies *wave*, Mary, and Jo, Scott Jesmore and Dante. Many rounds of pool, some poutine and the Leafs vs Habs hockey game later (We won we won we won. I cheered even though cheering for the Leafs in the Montreal area is a very dangerous thing) the show commenced. Ok I know a lot of people liked the Wells. In general, so did I. The sound guy, however, I did not like. Kevin and I discussed whether it was a good thing if one could no longer tell if the bass levels were making the floor vibrate because the bass levels were making one's jeans vibrate. Wayyyy too heavy on the bass and kickdrum.. I got nauseous. FRUVOUS!!!!! Some general thoughts. LOVE the new stuff. I come to Moxy Früvous through a love of good pop music, and the new stuff is beautiful pure pop. (I don't mean bubblegum and pop either. I mean pop like.. the Beatles or someone. Folk this stuff is not.) Another thing that occurred to me is that the new stuff won't get lost in bigger venues.. they'd sound amazing in Dolby Surround but at the same time they still sound great in a small venue like Clyde's. You Can't Be Too Careful may be my next favourite Frusong and I'm going to be playing Downsizing for my Mum and all the union types that she knows when this album comes out. Wow. The next album is already my favourite. Excuse me, I need to go invent a time travel device so I can go buy it now. Dave's mic cutting out made for the nicest rendition of La Complainte, and Murray's move across the stage to join the other three was just one of his "on" moments. He was entirely too funny that night. Makes up for the bout of shows where he seemed to only open his mouth to sing. Best line: (After the requests had gotten way the hell out of hand) "Ok there's a bit too much democracy going on here. As a fascist, I'm quite scared. If I hear one more request I tell ya the tanks will be rolling out and then no one will be happy" There were other doozies but sadly I've forgotten them. Dave was ultra-cute during Not The Beatles when everyone was picking on him. He put on this pathetic puppy dog face with the tears welling up.. I wanted to hug him. Btw I will take this moment to say that I could really do with a show that didn't include KOS, GE&H, or BJ. I can't help dancing to them and it was a great Not The Beatles but I think they need a rest. The three of them in a row at the end of an otherwise great set was a personal downer. I loved the show until after IWHO, then got back into it for Love Potion. Maybe it's a sympton of being at too many shows. (she says, only having 11 stamps) Speaking of dancing.. people have got to stop standing like telephone poles at Fruvous shows. I felt all conspicuous dancing. (That may have something to do with the fact that I was right in front of Murray as well) Maybe if more people had danced we would have had less stupid requests. After the show, there was much hanging around, until Marie-Claude, hKath, Sigrid and I got fed up and went upstairs to play (or watch in mine and hKath's case) air hockey. Eventually Sigrid won and we returned to our table to find Mike and ChrisO chatting. Somewhere in here came Mike's comment about the Drinking Song mistake. We were gently encouraged to leave around 3 am, so the non-Fruvous portion of Marie-Claude's birthday party commenced. This involved packing our room with ten or twelve people, a few six packs of beer and much talk and laughter. Because of George's illness and a confusion as to where he was at, people had been invited to different room numbers. So when someone said to me (I was closest to the door) "I hear voices in the hall", I poked my head out to check for errant Fruheads and found myself looking at Jian instead. Whoops. "Oh hi." Looked in the other direction for possible Fruheads, saw none, closed the door and freaked out a little. I was laughed at and the party continued. At 4 am Chinese food was ordered from a just-closing restaurant, which caused much confusion and eventually the ordering of too much food...hope the cleaning staff liked the leftovers. (As well as a slight sweet'n'sour sauce spill on one of the beds!) Things finally ended at around 6 am, just after I'd realized that George still hadn't check us in properly *g* And so, after a 4hr15 min train ride and 1 hr 15 min bus ride, ended another Frutrip. See a bunch of you at the Toronto NYE party :) Fiona - -- "I'm SO a Dave's people if it weren't for Mike..." - -Marie-Claude Nov 16/98 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #102 ********************************************