From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #92 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, December 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- either/or [Srm9988n@aol.com] either/or [Srm9988n@aol.com] 2 Fazzio posts: either/or (it just won't stop ... gasp!) and Clydes (grrr!) [Srm9988n@a] Re: Either/Or ["KatieWow" ] Re: Either/Or ["KatieWow" ] Re: Either/Or ["KatieWow" ] Re: Either/Or [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: Clyde's [dalevy@aol.com (DALevy)] Re: either/or [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Point Claire show review [Dan Jablonski ] Re: [To Herb or not to Herb? tehe=+)] [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re:Moxy Morals [Lynne Fisher ] Re: Either/Or [Lynne Fisher ] Re: Nature Sounds of NGs [Lynne Fisher ] either/or [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: [To Herb or not to Herb? tehe=+)] [Angie Armstrong white or wheat? white, potato, or 12-grain from the store. At home I'll throw practically any grain, nut or fruit into the exalted bread machine. (and for those of you who shudder at the thought of bread machines, SO DID I !! My brother got us one last Christmas, and I was, like, so dismayed, wondering what the heck I was going to do with this quite expensive and apparently extraneous appliance, as I have two perfectly good hands and twin ovens. But....you know what....it's WONDERFUL! If only for the kneading and rising -- it's an airtight warm compartment, so it takes out the timing guesswork; it does the hard part for me, so my carpal-tunnel-syndrome-plagued wrists can get more of a workout conversing with you people; and then when it's done the prep cycle I can shape the loaf and toss it in my own oven so I don't get one of those a wful-looking mutant bread cubes. yes, I'm converted, and I'm a happy camper about it!) stairs or elevator? escalator! It's like a mini-theme-park ride. (Okay, I'm waaaay too easily amused. :) ) >paper or plastic? paper when I need newspaper-recycling bags; plastic when I need trash bags. (Like, I can't imagine spending perfectly good money on something when I have the express intention of throwing it right into the trash can!) >bath or shower? shower, it's quicker, unless I need pampering (have a cold, can't sleep, achy etc.....) >pen or pencil? puter! :) >(sick of this or at least somewhat amused?) somewhat amused. But I wonder, is this a game we invented just because we're so inventive, and because we so love to amuse/distract/annoy/molest/harrass each other, or is it in fact a covert operation devised by some Big Brother Data Bank, who subsequently will ply each of us respondents with subliminal, targeted enticements to buy Nutella, iguanas, Japanese beer, polyester clothing and crayons? This was all Tom Fazzio's idea, as I recall. Hmmm. - -- Lori, always willing to exacerbate any conspiracy theories that occur to her or practically anyone else, just 'cause she likes trouble. :) ************************** "fru gud me sleep now" -- Dante B. Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 15:13:56 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: either/or Heather delighted us with: >>dogs or cats? >Cats. cats cats cats cats cats. Mostly cause I'm scared of dogs (I >found out recently that my fear probably comes from being bitten in the >face when I was two. By a dog owned by my neighbours Bud and Priscilla. >Named Fu-Fu. No joke) cats cats cats cats cats! They are self-cleaning, self-feeding, self- policing, rational critters perfectly happy to live on a radiator or a comfy chair (much like ME!!!) I like other people's dogs though, which is good because I'm s urrounded by them, and if we ever move to a farm I'll get (pick one or all) a Lab, an English sheepdog, and a malamut. Gorgeous, fun dogs! (Not to mention a flock of goats, a sheep or two, and numerous quacky things. My imaginary farm is an ark-type refuge :) ) >>glasses or contacts? glasses. Can't wear contacts, and they don't make suncontacts anyway, and you'll never see me without my sunglasses if there's even a sliver of natural light. (vampire lady, apparently. allergic to daylight.) Like Heather, I love nerd frames on those who can wear them. See: Dave Matheson, David Byrne. Also: most of the operatives on La Femme Nikita. >>smooth or crunchy peanut butter? >Ew ew ew. Smooth. Crunchy is so gross. Depends on my mood and how my jaw's behaving. (TMJ) But I only eat pb maybe once or twice a month. In the cupboard now is smooth. >>Herc or Xena? Xena. >>Bar soap or bath gel? This really yummy handmade glycerine soap that is scented like clovers (I think) and is called "Virtual Blue." oooh. I like bath gel and glycerine soap. Peach/sunflower from Freeman is nice. I also have this wonderful oatmeal soap from Ten Thousand Villages (shameless plug!) that smells like cloves. A nice wakeup; overpowering at night. >A few more? >Beatles or Elvis? Beatles, unless it's Murray doing Elvis ;-) >Salt or Pepper? both. Sea salt, Madagascar pepper. Silver or Gold? Gold gold gold. Superman or Batman? Batman -- the cheesy tv show Superman -- the movies >Land or Sea? tough one! How 'bout on a ferry -- or an island -- surrounded by sea, cut off from "civilization", but still feeling on relatively solid ground? It helps to be fog-shrouded. :) >>Leather or Lace? > leather (because I just have this aversion to lace - the >80's spoiled it for me). And, hey, Lace? Brown plaid flannel >pyjammas, thank you very much. : ) depends on my mood, and if the lace is REAL. Mostly, lots of cotton! And I'm with Heather on the flannel pyjamas, although mine are either red/green plaid, or teal and white Mickey Mouse cuties. I've also been known to live in fluorescent pink fleece, with white or grey stretch pants :D - -- Lori t.h.f. "Do you wanna flap your wings and fly away from here?" -- Liz Phair Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 16:11:41 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: 2 Fazzio posts: either/or (it just won't stop ... gasp!) and Clydes (grrr!) >Standard or Automatic shift? automatic. My husband tried to teach me standard on our honeymoon. almost got a divorce right then :) Then he tried again four years later ... we wound up in a bar, sucking down Molsons to combat the extreme jitters. I know, I'm a spazz, but I just can't get the hang of doing all that stuff at once. The brain gets it, but the assorted hands and feet just --- AAACK! >Tumble or Air dry? Sunshine in summer, dryer in winter. >NFL or CFL? NHL. >Sunrise or Sunset? Sunset. (remember, I'm a vampire.) Too-funny sunrise story, from college. 4 kids spending their first summer on the left coast. Now, to grasp the utter idiocy of this you really do have to know that 2 of the aforesaid kids are academic scholarship recipients; one other is a future Fulbright Scholar; the 4th is soon to attend Harvard Law. Like, you'd *expect* something this bright from these brainiacs.... Spent the day at Disneyland, then went out for Chinese food, then attended a late-night screening of Rocky Horror (devirginized a 13-year-old -- my personal height of depravity :) ) Went back to the house, got the brilliant idea to stay up all night playing poker so we wouldn't miss sunrise. Around 4:30 we go down to the beach, wander around, sit under blankets. getting a little antsy, 'cause it's taking awhile. suck down a couple of beers. look at each other, wondering what gives -- it's now quarter to six, and still no sunrise! Hmm, maybe it's too foggy in the morning, or the LA smog ruins it. Puzzled, sleepy, grumpy. Decide to go out for breakfast, start packing up our stuff to go back to the car. That's when one of us turns around, says, "uuhhhh, guysss......" And there, over the Santa Monica Mountains, blazes the sun we've been staring out over the ocean waiting for for only about two hours. What a DUHHH! moment. A classic Sears painting: "Sunrise over the Pacific". Just thought I'd share, so you'd all know that yes, I really AM an idiot. >Sahara AAACK! Do you know I have NEVER heard Sahara live???? *sniffle* >Get In The Car >Secret Agent Man (Substitute was on the set list) AACK! Melanie, maybe together we'll have the strength to get thru this! - - -- >The show was right on. >Do these guys have a sheep fetish? I don't know about that, but I have 2 bear fetishes, and I just bought Steve an eagle fetish for Christmas :) And if I saw a sheep fetish I'd buy one, because I do like sheep. >And did they have to share that with the crowd? Well, heck, they share practically everything else. It's what makes them so endearing. :)' >Individually, each FrüLad was energetic and excited as ever... Murray >really wailed on that bass, and Mike *really* needs to get out of the >habit of injecting pure caffeine into his system before a show - does he >ever calm down? ;) I've seen it happen occasionally, but he is much more fun when he's completely charged. All this is making me seriously reconsider New Year's. I mean the thought of NYE in NYC horrifies me, but later that weekend's another story...I'm going to have to consult the Visa Orb and see what happens, because these withdrawal symptoms just get harder and harder to ignore. Aah well. time for breakfast. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 11:47:38 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Either/Or strangely, amusement still not wearing off . . . >Standard or Automatic shift? automatic >Tumble or Air dry? air dry (which is kind of difficult here at school, so i've resigned myself to tumble :( ) >NFL or CFL? college football >Sunrise or Sunset? sunset ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 11:45:14 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Either/Or geez! >white or wheat? wheat (actually, rye, but let's stick with the options given, shall we :)?) >stairs or elevator? stairs >paper or plastic? canvas tote bags >bath or shower? both. bath then shower if i've got time, just shower if i don't. >pen or pencil? pen. fountain pen. i do crossword puzzles with them :). >(sick of this or at least somewhat amused?) still amused :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 11:42:18 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Either/Or petit_chou@juno.com wrote in message <19981205.214432.-369381.7.petit_chou@juno.com>... >>dogs or cats? dogs. cats are . . . i don't know. >>glasses or contacts? contacts. my glasses prescription is so strong that the heavy lenses give me headaches >>smooth or crunchy peanut butter? smooth all the way >>Herc or Xena? xena! girl power :)! >>Bar soap or bath gel? ooh . . . both. bar soap for the important areas, bath gel for the rest (preferably bath and body works pearberry--yummy!) >A few more? >Beatles or Elvis? beatles >Salt or Pepper? both >Silver or Gold? silver >Superman or Batman? superman >Land or Sea? sea >Leather or Lace? lace, but only cotton eyelet or irish, and only white or off-white. that scratchy stuff is no good :). ------------------------------ Date: 6 Dec 1998 17:03:11 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Either/Or <> After 33 years of wearing glasses (and sometimes contacts), neither!!! Currently recovering from Lasik surgery (it will be one week on Monday). It's like a miracle. ------------------------------ Date: 6 Dec 1998 17:06:28 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: Clyde's >Some confusion about Jian's set list led to Tom Wait's "Time" I think it >was... They referred to this but the song they broke in to was the Rolling Stones' Time Is on My Side, a song I vividly recall blaring from my AM radio back in the 1960s when the Stones burst onto the scene. Doug Levy (again showing his age) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 17:05:38 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: either/or >>(sick of this or at least somewhat amused?) sick of this :/ - -v, honest Vika Zafrin vika@ibm.net "The wonderful thing about Shakespeare is that when it's done well, it makes people feel smarter than they are. As opposed to dumber than they are. There is really no in-between." - Spencer Golub ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 12:38:26 -0500 From: Dan Jablonski Subject: Point Claire show review [i started typing this review, then shmike (mike walsh) took over. you'll know when he starts typing, because he uses capital letters. you'll know when he stops typing because i don't. :-) ] just went to the show at pointe claire--my first show since boston in october, but right on the heels of eddie from ohio and great big sea at the paradise in boston on thursday. trip up was uneventful, tho driving in sleet in vermont was lame. border crossing was trivial, and the hotel in montreal was easy to find. nice place--two beds, sofa, kitchen, $58us per night. after dinner and a few rounds of curling on tv, we headed to the venue. show was supposed to be at 10:30-10:45, so we had plenty of time. we got there around 10:00. the opening act (the wells) came on a few minutes later, after the lead guitarist paged his bass player, dragging him and his beer on stage. they played for about 30 minutes. it was fun. they didn't suck. jian dug it. between acts, we (me and shmike) met up with alex, dante, chris o, vika, et al, and jacob and friends from mit showed up at some point. we talked for a while. shmike and i played some two-player bridge. we talked some more. still no fruvous. around 11:20, mike nash (of previous pointe claire show fame) came on stage and introduced the band. the band felt the applause they received was "bullshit". murray introduced the band again, and they got a more satisfactory response. sorry mr. nash. no biscuit. The set list is below for reference, these are highlights: The first banter came from the band talking about their forthcoming album, to be recorded in March. When someone from the audience told them that in fact March was winter in Montreal but spring in Toronto, in response to the band's inability to determine which season it would be, Dave hacked Birdhouse in your Soul to be that quote. The first new song was You Can't Be Too Careful, whose meaning escapes me. It was fun to listen to, and will definitely grow on me, but it would help had I written this review earlier than 0440. After YWGTTM, Jian started asking various segments of the audience how they were doing, going all the way around to the fourth guy from the end in the fifth row before ending at the sheep in the middle. The middle continued to make appropriate sheep noises when prompted throughout the show. (Towards the end of the prevous song, Dave's mic died and he joined Mike one over. Jian noticed this and joined them, leaving Murray alone in one corner of the stage. Murray struggled to move over while still being at a mic for when he was singing, meaning he could only get to Jian's drums on the first try.) Cal came on to fix Dave's mic 'twixt songs, and Junior Engineer Dave said it needed a new battery. Mike said that people on Earth were working on a mock of the microphone and sending instructions to Cal in Spaceship Clyde's. In the dead space, Jian noticed the Furby sitting in front of him on stage. He decided to play with the "orgasmic cat", but when he failed to get it to work on the first try, Dave commented that maybe it needed a new battery. Downsizing was pretty cool, but long. I liked the story, but Dan decided it was too long and tuned out about half way through. Jian had "Time" written on his set list here, and couldn't understand it, saying "I thought this was the Tom Waits song." The lads immediately started to play time is on my side, which went through the swing/ska pattern before becoming a ska tears of a clown. There comes a time was new, but I don't remember anything about it. The requestful crowd (see below) started getting louder at this point, as the lads were talking about The Wells as a gambling group. someone yelled out "White City", a song about dog track betting, which the band didn't know. They decided they were playing "Stump the Stars". After Grandpa Fruvous came on, the band decided to do something about everyone yelling for Green Eggs and Ham by playing a country song about Sam I Am. The last new song was My Poor Generation, which was pretty cool, but kinda got overwhelmed by surroundng events. Someone from Rochester mentioned something about the Flutie song, which the lads had done there. This was in the midst of the request raquet. The other commentary on the show was the crowd: they were very Bargainville oriented, and were yelling out many requests for material therefrom. This to get to both the band and some of the rest of the audience (including us), and so at times people were yelling out very random songs (like the Flutie song). After the show we were pointed at Picasso's for 24hour breakfast, which was good, cheap, and on the way into town. Having had a great day finding things in Montreal, we go to bed looking forward to Canadian coca-cola and GBS discs for friends at the end of the return trip. set list: michigan militia jockey full of bourbon banter (march is winter in montreal, spring in toronto, hacked into birdhouse in your soul) you can't be to careful(new) sahara you will go to the moon banter (sheep) french folk song (if i knew french, i could comment. i felt kind of alone. this is what i get for going to shows in quebec.) banter (batteries) downsizing(new) improv: time is on my side/tears of a clown there comes a time(new) banter (stump the stars) half as much river valley minnie the moocher improv: sam i am my poor generation(new) banter (flutie) i will hold on the kids song darlington darling pinochet intro to king of spain - green eggs and ham bj don't cry love potion #9 (medley) get in the car secret agent man i love my boss drinking song - --Dan and Mike ------------------------------ Date: 6 Dec 1998 18:31:15 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: [To Herb or not to Herb? tehe=+)] OK, I'm officially confused ... who is the Fruchild, Mindy or Angie? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:22:33 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re:Moxy Morals >Oh its not an issue of feeling guilty =+). If I need a drink there is >always a cousin or two near by. tehe I'd rather use a fake ID for myself, than have someone else get in trouble for supplying to a minor... just my lil opinion - -Lynne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:29:47 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: Either/Or > >>>Standard or Automatic shift? > >Standard is more fun!! > >>>Tumble or Air dry? >um.. dryers in Residence Halls never seem to dry clothes well. Neither, >either? *shrug* > >>>NFL or CFL? >NBA!! (even this year :( ) > >>>Sunrise or Sunset? >hmm, if i stay up for it sunrise, but mostly sunset > >-Lynne, adding less than 2 cents to millions of newgroup messages > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:12:38 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: Nature Sounds of NGs Monique said: >Okay, I voiced my opinions, which I love to do but can do so rarely on >this [explitive] campus of mine. Please give me some signal that you >read this, because I really want to be part of the little Frufamily >you've all started but I don't know if I'm being heard. We're listening Monique! We are! Usually I post if I want to "discuss" a point further, or if something you say "hits' me for some reason. Plus with the volume of the newsgroup, it's hard to keep up! - -Lynne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:21:10 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: either/or >white or wheat? Usually white, but my fav is potato italian (it does exist) >stairs or elevator? depends on if im feeling large or not =+) >paper or plastic? plastic, it can be recycled now too and doesnt break >bath or shower? >bath... with a television in the bathroom. Does anyone else do this? >WhenI *do* go home from college, I fill the tub and take the smaller TV >(13")into the bathroom for something to watch... nothing like a warm bath >whilewatching football. (with a remote of course) Bath, but I do it another way. Turn off the lights, 5 black candles around the tub (a floating one in if i feel i can resist being a clutz for a half an hour) lil incense in my dragon burner and some really good music. It is so cool to see the steam float from your skin! >pen or pencil? pencil! I love to sketch. gotta have a good eraser >Standard or Automatic shift? Auto. its the lazy thing >Tumble or Air dry? tumble. air dry gets stiff >NFL or CFL? umm sports? >Sunrise or Sunset? ohh, umm, I think the sunset, i really like the dramatic skys Fruchild ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:32:46 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [To Herb or not to Herb? tehe=+)] Or at least cut back, as long as my taste buds aren't giving any argument. It might be healthier for me too (and I hate working out!) =+) Fruchild Ok, I still have about 135 posts to read (*sigh*) and I'm sure people have already responded, but here's my $0.02: 1) No "diet" is truly effective without some physical activity to supplement it. You don't _have_ to go to the gym and pump iron for 12 hours and run 35 miles and climb Mt. Everest... but you should include some type of excercise in your daily regime. I love to walk, and if the weather's nice I'll walk around the park or (yeah I know it sounds sick) Mt. Hope Cemetery- it was designed to be a park-like setting, there are hills and valleys and ponds and it's very peaceful, a lovely area for contemplating problems. Little things like using the stairs if you're only going up 3 floors, walking to the store instead of grabbing a ride from someone or hopping in the car. Go out dancing at a club or take up Lindy Hop or Swing dancing (talk about a work out!). Working out doesn't have to be work... it should be fun so that you'll want to keep doing it, and excelling at it. 2) I know a great many people these days on the Atkins Plan or Power Protein diets... and for some I've seen some wonderful results. My whole attitude towards "dieting" is that anything is good in moderation and as long as you are active and keep a healthy outlook, you're fine doing whatever it is you're doing. My Grandmother is this tiny little 68 year old Cherokee/African American. She grew up on and fed me good ol' southern cookin'... Fried chicken, Pork portions that "civilized" people would never dream of eating (case in point, chitterlings... if you know what they are, I admit I still have a soft spot in my appetite for them but can only eat them once a year now), greens, turnips, all sorts of stuff. She grows all her own vegetables in her huge garden in Alabama, cooks _everything_ from scratch... doesn't use things like canola oil or olean or "I can't believe it's not butter." This woman has got to be the healthiest person I know, she patted me on my back once a few years ago and I swear I thought she ws gonna put me through a wall! She hits like a 20 yr old man!!! I hope to be in as good a shape as she is when I hit my 60's. She never stresses about high cholesterol or treatment of livestock or anything that seems to be the big deal... she just eats as she pleases, works in her garden, listens to her country music (*shudder*), and is lovin' life. My point is, I've learned to not stress about what I'm eating. I know I'm going to die someday, eating happens to be one of the things I enjoy and I'm going to do what I enjoy until I die. I do enough to keep myself busy, and anyone who's met me, I think I'm reasonably healthy, no? You do what works for _you_. What you enjoy, what makes you feel good about yourself. Stressing out about things is the most detrimental thing you can do to yourself. Ok, back to reading. - --Angie "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man" - Dave Matheson 12/3 ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #92 *******************************************