From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #80 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, December 4 1998 Volume 02 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- more important stuff (ie Hockey) [Srm9988n@aol.com] feeling young [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: More Important Stuff (i.e. Hockey) [drea1@my-dejanews.com] Sowing the Secedes of Love...(was Feeling Old) [petit_chou@juno.com] Freebird/Skynyrd [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Free Bird ["KatieWow" ] after a lengthy absence... [Snow In Summer ] Re: Nields/EFO [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: feeling older and older and older.... [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: Feeling Old [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: Feeling old [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: Ithaca Set List [Chad Schrock ] Re: Feeling old [Chad Schrock ] Re: Feeling Old [Chad Schrock ] Re: [Re: Inquisitions/RESPECT] [schr9271@fredonia.edu] Re: coupla things... [Chad Schrock ] Re: [Re: Clinton tonight/New songs] [Chad Schrock ] a...newsgroup moment? [schr9271@fredonia.edu] Re: A real Spanish Inquistion/Ithaca set list [Chad Schrock ] Re: Free Bird ["KatieWow" ] Re: Feeling old ["KatieWow" ] Re: feeling young [michael@janus.oit.umass.edu (Michael Kieras)] Re: Feeling Old [Irene Gaspar ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:02:12 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: more important stuff (ie Hockey) AJ wrote: >I remember that moment Chad (does help to have the tape doesn't it?) :) >But are you sure that is what he meant? I've always understood him to be a >HUGE wings fan. Am I on something? Possibly. I don't really know about your recreational habits. :) But in Ottawa (or was it Appel Farm? or was it King of Prussia?) anyway SOMEWHERE this summer he and Ji were *heavily* dissing the "Detroit Red Army". - -- Lori ******************************* "fru gud me sleep now" -- Dante B. "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming." - -- Forest for the Trees "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:07:22 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: feeling young Michael Kieras said: >It's funny, but from around 26-29 I felt really old, and dreaded >hitting 30. When I hit 30 it wasn't so bad, and I've been feeling >younger ever since. My theory of several years' standing is that I hit thirty and reversed. Which means I'm now going on 23. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:05:06 GMT From: drea1@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: More Important Stuff (i.e. Hockey) > The Detroit Red Wings are the ONLY true hockey team. Fans of any other > franchise are doomed to eternal Hockey Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!! > If you don't believe me, just ask Fordy at your next show. HE knows THE > TRUTH! *AHEM* Pardon me? As of last night, the Leafs had one of the best records in the NHL, better than the Sabres, Pittsburgh, Philly, AND Detroit :P The Leafs are, and have been, a great team (granted, there were a lot of bad years too, but what team *doesn't* have bad years?). And Fordy..I think that little comment "and the Leafs are all wet with CuJo in net" has been proven wrong *g* You can apologize to all of us Leaf fans at FrüCon :) Drea (Leafs fan since the age of 7!) "People should be shot for skating like the Leafs" (not anymore! ;>) - DVN - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:36:38 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Sowing the Secedes of Love...(was Feeling Old) There is an interesting book about this (sorta). It's called ECOTOPIA by Ernest Callenbach. The basic bit is that this reporter from the outside is allowed to enter Ecotopia for a while to tell the rest of America what it's really like (Ecotopia being the name of the union between California, Washington and Oregon who banded together and seceded from the rest of The Union). In Ecotopia, there is a HUGE focus on protecting the Earth, and some of the ideas proposed are quite interesting. My main problem is that Callenbach wasn't able to convince me he (his character) was a reporter (the book is in first person, and there are entries in his diaries and bits from "articles"). I hate that. Had a hard time dealing with the entire thing cause the main character had holes. Oh well, an interesting read none the less. Lemme know if anyone has read or plans to read this. Just my literary tie in to all this seceding business. Heather Moore >An awful lot of blood and misery put paid to that notion. The >precedent that >the central government would fight to preserve the union is the >five-hundred >pound gorilla blocking the door to secession. Since the War Between >the >Towering Conceits, people of the US have grown more and more like each >other; >in the mid-nineteenth century there were practically two separate >economies and >cultures, and not much mobility between them. Now, similar mixes >among >agrarian, service, financial, and industrial bases can be found >everywhere, >with obvious variations. For decades now, the idea of secession has >been simply >absurd, because we are all much more alike than unalike, and those who >are >unlike are distributed throughout the country more or less. > >Regards, >Steve > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:38:58 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Freebird/Skynyrd Here I go, using my very own links for mass edification :P Maybe now AJ will recognize it -- it's one of THOSE songs that I can't imagine someone never having heard, because I've heard it waaaay too much, specially in high school. Never did much like Skynyrd.) From Search for Lyrics (http://www.lyrics.ch/search.html): Lynyrd Skynyrd Non Album Tracks Free Bird Name FREE BIRD Interpret Lynyrd Skynyrd Jahr 1973 Schreib„r Collins/Van Zant If I leave here tomorrow would you still remember me For I must be travelling on now there's too many places I gotta see And if I stay here with you girl things just wouldn't be the same For I'm as free as a bird now and this bird you cannot change and the bird you cannot change and the bird you cannot change Lord knows I can't change Bye bye it's been sweet love though this feeling I can't change Please don't take it so badly Lord knows I must play And if I stay here with you girl things just couldn't be the same For I'm as free as a bird now and this bird you cannot change and the bird you cannot change and the bird you cannot change Lord knows I can't change - -- Lori, via her supremely useful website. HA! Now if only I could get the damn photos scanned and transmitted from Steve's work puter to the home one... tomorrow, he promises me. Tomorrow. we'll see.... ******************************* "fru gud me sleep now" -- Dante B. "And when I go to sleep at night I hear someone else's song, sung by some Canadians and thousands sing along. And everyone is dancing but I don't know the words, mystery and chimera and a million flying birds" -- the Nields "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming." - -- Forest for the Trees "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:44:09 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Free Bird lynyrd skynyrd? "if i leave here tomorrow . . ."? come on--i'm nineteen and i know what that is :). ~~Kate ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 02:58:28 GMT From: Snow In Summer Subject: after a lengthy absence... hi all! this is just a line to let you know that i *finally* have access to the ng again. :) and for those of you wondering who i am: my name is Amy and i live in Buffalo, NY (and am not to be confuzzled w/ Amy Schrader in Fredonia *waves in a southerly direction*). i'm also known as snonsumr on #mf. any questions? just email me & ask away! see some of you at Pte. Claire this weekend! - -A. ******************************************************************************* "Life is what happens while you're making other plans." ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: 4 Dec 1998 03:01:38 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: Nields/EFO >> Hi There! In case it hasn't been posted yet, for everyone who is NOT going out to Clinton this weekend, The Nields and Eddie From Ohio are playing at the Tralf in Buffalo this Friday night!<< ahh! You people have to stop naming bands who I don't know! Cause then you know what happens?? I want to buy them, and though Mastercard may love you dearly, my checking account will not. (which may cause the little characters on my checks to seek you out and preform hideous acts of violence. Consider youself warned.) But seriously-- I was an English major... have some financial pity. ~jen *~~~"Measure your life in love"~~~* ------------------------------ Date: 4 Dec 1998 03:03:44 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: feeling older and older and older.... >>-- Lori (watch out folks, I'm in a postin' mood.)<< as long as you steer clear of the "postal" moods, its all good... ~jen *~~~"Measure your life in love"~~~* ------------------------------ Date: 4 Dec 1998 03:09:36 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: Feeling Old >>When I was in middle school, all the girls were into the satellite dish bangs<< Well, we had to get "The New Kids-- Live From Swaziland!" somehow... ~jen (it's about form following function...) *~~~"Measure your life in love"~~~* ------------------------------ Date: 4 Dec 1998 03:16:58 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: Feeling old >> I haven't watched TV since 1971. Are you telling me you live in a world without Buffy The Vampire Slayer?? ::shudders:: ~jen (hey-- I saw that! That look of scorn on collective ng face. But just remember-- "into every life a little cheese must fall." And I be grabbin' me a big chunk of gouda.) *~~~"Measure your life in love"~~~* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 22:26:27 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Ithaca Set List Marie.Claude@canada.com wrote: > chad: > > > > O Canada > > > > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I'll say it again, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > me: *yay*yay*yay*yay*yay*yay*yay*yay* > > Guys, how 'bout singing it at home? :) Yeah, like at one of the FruCon shows. :) - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 22:02:38 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Feeling old LeSystemeD wrote: > In article "Demetriou, wrote: > >Another opinion: I think Moxy would have been great soundtrack > >music for "Thirtysomething." Or for "My So-called Life." > > > I haven't watched TV since 1971. They would have been a great > soundtrack to Anything produced that year. I was -3 then. I can watch 'TV Land' or 'Nick at Night' and get back to you... - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 22:15:57 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Feeling Old drea1@my-dejanews.com wrote: > at least four years younger than all of Früvous, but that > 'soon I'll be 30' thing is sneaking up on me *sigh* A friend of mine turned 30 last December. He didn't take it well. Of course, I had to help him in any way that I could. I just reminded him that in 6 and a half years, I would be as old as he was then. It seemed to help him a lot. heh heh heh :) - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 03:00:06 GMT From: schr9271@fredonia.edu Subject: Re: [Re: Inquisitions/RESPECT] > ha. (actually, so far I've managed to _not_ pick up the rochester accent). As a fellow Rachesterian (no, that was not a typo) I hear by present to you, Angie, the Metal of Speech for bravely avoiding the dreaded Rah-chester lingo. Congrats and keep up the good work...perhaps you could teach some of us less fortuante folk your tricks. Of course, ever since i starting fru-tripping, I've gone from "sah-rry about thaat" to "soory aboot thaht" or some combination there of. Many a person here in Fredonia have told me I have a funny accent...i honestly don't know where they'd get an idea like that ^_^ Amy "Alright! Who fruvoused the cat?" ~Mike Ford - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 22:53:01 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: coupla things... A.J. LoCicero wrote: > I think that is plenty. I'm not sure if a Unitarian service can > really be called "worship" (Lis and I were married in a Unitarian > church) but I feel the same way. The only time that I have been in a Unitarian church, I had a great time and would do it again in a heartbeat. :) I guess it could even be described as a religious experience. Just stretch those definitions to fit, as needed. :) - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 22:39:18 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: [Re: Clinton tonight/New songs] Angie Armstrong wrote: > > >i'll be the frazzled starving chick looking for frubars! (no > >time to stop and eat!!) > > hmmm, sounds like a match made in heaven... or at a > Früvous concert!!! > > and lucky thing the events barn offers free coffee and hot cocoa!! > > Got Milk? *snort* > > --Angie, crackin' herself up > (I'm going to switch to decaf, I promise... someday) Good God, girl!!! Get to that show before you burst! And I thought I went mental the Friday before NoHo... (you all enjoy yourselves. :) - -- chad at radix dot net Wanted: 1 Orbiting Rondelle. Cheap. Contact: Big Cheese. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 03:33:07 GMT From: schr9271@fredonia.edu Subject: a...newsgroup moment? Alright...many people hear have posted about fruvous moments they've had. But a fruvous newsgroup moment......? Yestarday I was in this lil' shop that was your typical beanie babies/precious moments/tacky christmas decorations/odd party supplies store. Walking down an corridor lined with leftover halloween decors and stuff for next summer i came across a pile of mailboxes that were vaugly in the shape of other things. and what should be at the top of this wonderous pile but a bright pink flamingo shaped mailbox. All that ran throw my head was "hmmm...I wonder if that could be something that a would turn a flamingo homicidal?" I then hastily exited the store before the clerks thought i had inhaled one of their puffkins by the way i was trying to hold in my laughter Amy - I think i need help "Alright! Who fruvoused the cat?" ~Mike Ford - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:04:41 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: A real Spanish Inquistion/Ithaca set list Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > Which is a good thing. People do need to be bludgeoned with > knowledge of our nefarious dealings occasionally. Of course, > that's assuming they'll pay any attention ... which is a mighty > big assumption, given the collective attention span and gnats would win. Unless there are big tits and lots of sex involved. That would get and keep the average American's attention span. Cynical? Me? Naaaah. :\ > preoccupation with more amusing things than detention, torture, > disappearance and US accessorism thereto. :P You also assume that we will hear anything about it. I haven't seen/heard anything about this through US media (with the exception of occasional stores on CNN or in the Washingon Post). Most of the info that I have gotten has come from BBC World News that one of the PBS stations here airs every week night. (Ch 32, WHUT, M-F 7-7.30 in Washington) > >> Thoughts? > >It is a ton more interesting and actually about something > >legitamate, as compared to the festering pox that is going > >on DC right now. > Here here. and chad has to practically *live* there. I'll survive. Just like the tourists that invade DC and Annapolis every year. This to will pass. :) > >I pay attention. > >I only pretend to care. > > --me > Umm, is this what you tell the customer or your supervisor? Both. Depending. Actually, it's what I told a friend of mine. > on the Ithaca thread: > >Does anyone else get the feeling that this will be on the > >next album? (Especially after reading Dan's review....) > I am just drooling in anticipation of that new album. It's As am I. I just don't know if I want to sahre that song with the rest of the world yet. > going to be a whopper. (Not junior. whopper.) /As all the vegetarians groan. :) > >> O Canada > >!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >I'll say it again, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > can we harmonize? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We exclaim beautifully together, m'dear. > I do wish they'd record this too. It would be cooler to hear them do both anthems at Camden Yards sometime this summer. /hintHintHINT!!! That might just be enough to get me to borrow my aunt's tickets and actually go to a game. (It also means that they would be in the area and might do another show in Annapolis. Which would be *far* better!) But, a recording of it would be cool too, I guess. :) - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:48:44 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Bottom Line All Ages excellent . . . (tapping fingertips together ala Mr. Burns :) that makes me feel _much_ better. ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:50:21 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Free Bird >"Freebird! Freebird! Play some Skynard!". actually, i believe the proper term is "Play some Skynyrd, man." in my experience, that is :). ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:45:25 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Feeling old >Are you telling me you live in a world without Buffy The Vampire Slayer?? > >::shudders:: yes ma'am. i'd be severely afraid of a buffy-less planet :). ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: 3 Dec 1998 23:38:05 -0500 From: michael@janus.oit.umass.edu (Michael Kieras) Subject: Re: feeling young Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: : My theory of several years' standing is that I hit thirty and reversed. : Which means I'm now going on 23. But what will you do in three years when you want to go to a 21+ show? :^O - -- Michael Kieras ------------------------------------------------- michael@oit.umass.edu http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~michael/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 04:54:15 GMT From: Irene Gaspar Subject: Re: Feeling Old Eve wrote: > > Anyway, it makes me wonder why we are so afraid of feeling/getting/being > old. This is not meant as a pounce, none of what follows is, but if you saw what condition my grandfather is in right now you just might start worrying about aging. Even my parents, they are falling apart at the seams! Good God--someone shoot me when I am fifty! >Perhaps it's because we think in this society that the high school > and collge years (and not even for some people) are the best years of our > lives. Well, I can say that high school was certainly not the best time > of my life and I don't think it was for many people. College, perhaps, > but if it's all downhill from college that's pretty sad. I am beginning to wonder if there are "best years". There are always stresses that seem and may even be overwhelming. There are always tragedies and failures. The only reason why I might favour the high school & college/univ. period is that these years are, for most people, a physically healthy time of life. Or maybe it's > because we don't want to get old and ugly. Well, I can answer that with > two points. a)young does not equal beautiful... I'll go along with that. I myself am not too worried at this stage about losing my beauty; I was never prom queen in the first place! ;) Same goes for the coolness factor. > Oh, in some > countries, the people look forward to getting old and try to get old > faster. This is because old people do not have to work as hard and are > revered and respected and taken care of. Again, the hope is to get old gracefully (i.e. with as little mental or physical deterioration as possible). What good is being revered and respected if you can no longer understand the concept? And being taken care of, meaning pampered, is a fine thing, but being taken care of, meaning 24-hour nursing care, is something else. Finally, we are afraid of > getting old because of death. Well, death can happen anytime True. > when really old people die they are often ready for it and welcome it. And so do their families I'm afraid. Irene ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #80 *******************************************