From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #36 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, November 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 036 Today's Subjects: ----------------- re: First concerts? [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: [Fruvous on the Brain] [Angie Armstrong ] Re: "Fly" Apocrypha [Chad Maloney ] colm vs. michael [Angie Armstrong ] Newspaper review of Friday Noho show ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: "Fly" Apocrypha ["Schwan, Phil" ] Re: Re:[a Distinct Lack of Degrees] ["KatieWow" ] YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE THIS...*LOL* ["Glen -Skip- Newell" ] Re: "Fly" Apocrypha ["KatieWow" ] Re: The Daves i know.. [koogle@clark.net] FruMiles [Alan Sigman ] FruConfectioners [Alan Sigman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Nov 1998 14:47:51 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: re: First concerts? <> Since my first concert, as mentioned, was Paul Simon and I think that's pretty cool (especially 10th row center at Carnegie Hall), I guess I qualify for that ... ... OK, how's this one? When I was 15 I saw America at the Felt Forum and before the encore, while the stage was dark, I actually jumped up on stage and kissed the guitar player (the third one, the blonde one). I blush even as I write this but it was the highlight of my entire teenage years (which as you can imagine were pretty damned lame until I got to college). Queen Lisa (grabbing that title and keeping it until someone makes me give it back. Grrrr.) ... Though I was named for someone named Laika. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:43:55 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Fruvous on the Brain] So, does anyone else suffer from the malady of not being able to go 20 min without _something_ reminding, implying or otherwise involving Moxy Früvous?? Case in point: I'm at a friend's last night watching "The Simpsons." it's the episode where Bart and Lisa are on opposing PeeWee Hockey teams. Bart makes a comment to Lisa and refers to her as "Queen Lisa." My friend Julia (who was just de Früginized in Roch on the 5th) and I turn to each and say in unison, "DON'T MENTION LISA!" *sigh* so what's the next level beyond groupie? - --Angie, becoming obsessively Früvilous. 30. "It's hard to believe that he beat out 1,000,000 other sperm." --Actual quote from Federal employee performance evaluation ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:01:29 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: "Fly" Apocrypha Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > > Here's a question for those of you who've been to a few dozen > gigs or so: has anyone out there ever heard the second verse > of "Fly"? I think it could add so much dimension to an already > meaningful song, but I've never actually heard it. :( Is there hope? (I assume by "second verse" you don't mean the actual second verse, but the original verse that was in before Wood and was removed) Define "heard"... I've heard it. It was in there in the beginning, when Fly was in the same stage Pisco or Grudge or Half as Much are in now before Wood came out. Honestly, I agree on its removal. Fly is already a long song and can some times be really cumbersome in a set list if misplaced. But other times, when well put, it works wonders. As for hope, I would guess not. To me, that's the same as a writer handing out an earlier version of a book even though they decided it would be better to remove the second chapter when they published it. And I don't think that would be appropriate either... Of course, it isn't my decision at all *grin* - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:37:32 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: colm vs. michael (if you really like colm, you gotta try to find a copy of the *canadian" recording of phantom... colm wilkinson as the phantom. he beats the *pants* off of that wimpy crawford. :)) I can't say I'm inclined to agree, but that's only because I heard Crawford's rendition before Colm's. My ear is used to hearing Crawford's voice. An ex-bf had a copy of the canadian recording, and the thing I didn't like was that Wilkinson seemed strained, like he was holding back. Like he was trying to hold in a powerful voice... then I heard the recording of Les Mis and felt even more so. He has such a powerful voice, the role of Phantom _itself_ seemed "wimpy" for his voice (no offense to Sir Andy, of course). *sigh* I wanted so much to see Wilkinson doing Jean Valjean in Toronto this fall, but the evil mula-fairy decided it was not in my future. :^( (have i done a *single* on-topic post today?) - --Angie (adding to the off-topic contigent again) (Compaq Computer Corporation) hey! I'm typing on a Compaq! in fact, every PC in the center is a Compaq, our facilities manager swears by 'em ;^) ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:43:06 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Newspaper review of Friday Noho show From the Springfield (MA) Union-News, November 2, 1998, page B-8. Reproduced without permission. - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ======== Halloween Treat With Political Bite, by Joyce Marcel, music writer. NORTHAMPTON - Most bands piece together a list of songs before the show and then go out and play the list. But not Moxy Fruvous, which had a different trick with which to treat its fans this Halloween weekend at the Iron Horse. Any Fruvous show is sheer delight, but Friday's - the first of two consecutive nights of sold-out shows - reached heavenly heights of entertainment. Fruvous (don't ask about the name; they'll tell you a different tall tale every time) is a platinum-selling Canadian band which is still building a fan base here. Bassist Murray Foster, drummer Jian Ghomeshi, guitarist Mike Ford and accordion and banjo player Dave Matheson started working on the streets together in 1990, singing a cappella and using every busker trick in the book to attract an audience. Over time, they developed split-second timing, raucous camaraderie, and shimmering four-part harmonies that define their shows today. Part of the groove band scene, they turn the jam ethos upside down. Their songs are fixed; they improvise with their stage patter. Friday, they each read part of a narrative about a boy named B.J. and the adventures he had searching for his true love, Rachel. Woven into the story were song titles; whenever they reached one, they sang the song. For example, they started with "B.J. Don't Cry," and when B.J. hitchhiked, they did "Get In the Car." When B. J. encountered a crazed girl throwing matches at furniture, it was the intro to an exciting cover of "Psycho Killer," complete with a dead-on David Byrne imitation. The famous Fruvous political bite was there, as when in "Pisco Bandido," Ghomeshi read, "It was the first materialistic and criminal fish B.J. had ever seen . . . I wonder if he was a Kenneth Starrfish." They also threw in as many pop culture and musical quotes as they could, including a lovely version of Simon and Garfunkle's "Homeward Bound" along with their own Beatlesque [sic] "Lazlo's Career" and a stunning a cappella version of "You Will Go To The Moon." And that was only the first 100-minute set. They took a break; then launched into another all-out, hour-long set of hot music that included "Michigan Militia" and the rapid "Johnny Saucep'n." After pointing out that B.J. never found his Rachel, they brought a Rachel from the audience on stage for a surprise proposal from her boyfriend. Rachel said yes and Fruvous continued with the syncopated "King of Spain." Their closer was a hilarious mix of "Walk on the Wild Side" with "Dancing Queen." Jess Klein, a diminutive blonde Ani DiFranco clone, opened the show and won the audience's heart with her powerful Ani-voice and Ani-attitude. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:04:47 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re:[a Distinct Lack of Degrees] Angie wrote: >>The ratio at most shows is so one-sided) >Well, I had noticed that myself... though not been uncomfortable about it. > I'm used to "sticking out," as it were. I'm not stereotypical, I don't encourage >the stereotype for "Women of Color," I'm just me. > Guess that's why I'm here,I love versatility and variety... and I can't think >of a band that personifies that more than Moxy Früvous. Glad you said that Angie. The lack of racial diversity was really obvious the other night in Katonah, where there were maybe 3 brown people in the audience, and one woman looked really uncomfortable when Jian started mocking the Westchester County crowd before I Love My Boss. He said something along the lines of "you don't know any of these people -- you know, like cabbies. blacks. pet-food-store employees. Because you *are* the boss!" (Oh good God, here I go paraphrasing Jian again. Will I never learn?) I don't think she quite knew whether he was joking or not, given the rest of the audience's melatonin-challenged collective complexion. She was sitting about halfway back, not with the Fruheads, so I don't know if she knew Fruvous' stuff or had seen them before, or had just fallen in with the rest of the "coffeehouse" crowd that seemed at first bemused by the Lads and their antics. I was just hoping she didn't take offense at Jian, of all people. >>(So once again, welcome to the loony bin. If you are like the other nuts >>here, you'll blend right in regardless of complexion!) >Gee, whaddaya think Lori, am I blending okay? Oh, you're doing just fine, Angie. :) (Says just about the most pathetically white chik around. But hey, we're adopting a multiracial baby, if that counts. *huge grin*) - -- the croaking murrmaid ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:32:10 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Re:[a Distinct Lack of Degrees]] (He said something along the lines of "you don't know any of these people -- you know, like cabbies. blacks. pet-food-store employees. Because you *are* the boss!" ) *snort* rest of the audience's melatonin-challenged collective complexion. ROFL - That's one I hadn't heard before... pardon my hysterical giggles for a moment. It makes such an interesting play/emphasis on words and impressions calling something "challenged" and... oh nevermind, I'm geeking again. Oh, you're doing just fine, Angie. :) (Says just about the most pathetically white chik around. But hey, we're adopting a multiracial baby, if that counts. *huge grin*) my... how Dharma and Greg-ish ;^) Congratulations, I'd say that counts just fine, and I bet that baby would look great in a T-shirt saying "I love Canadian Boys," I do! *wink wink* - --Angie, actually getting work done today... "Grown-ups never understand anything for themselves, and it is tiresome for children to be always and forever explaining things to them." -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery, _The Little Prince_ ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:25:26 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: hi Richard is a genius I must meet next time one of us crosses the pond. >We took a college graduate Mr BJ (not her real name) of average >IQ but slightly strange dress sense and read her thoughts using Dr Butterworth's >Rather More Expensive Than You Would Expect Automated Thought Reader >(available mail order from the usual address). Her initial thoughts were... >'Hmm. Starbucks. Good or bad thing? I must investigate and write some letters to >my political representitive about it...' >After 6 months of intensive Moxy Fruvous ng therapy Mr BJ's thoughts ran as >follows... >'Hmm. 6' 2"? That's tall. But tall for a Cchad? I must investigate and post some >witty comment about it on the ng...' >You see? A complete breakdown in mental faculties. I too have observed this alarming effect on intellectual curiosity. Oh, those insidious government agents *try* to soothe us, telling us through our subliminal-messaging CDs that we're just "lightening up." But I notice, with a pang, the sprawling pile of newspapers on the coffee table, and realize I haven't ploughed through an entire one since I was seduced into joining this ng two months ago. No time, I mutter to myself....as I log on for the fifth time in one day in order to discuss the relative loudness of different orange shirts. Yes, I sadly admit, the world would be a much better place if I stopped wasting my time on non-issues such as these, and started working to clarify such important ones as the dastardly ramifications of blue dresses and cigars. :D - -- lori the little croaking murrmaid "then a flashback to a dream and angels singing songs" "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:13:52 GMT From: ctyner@my-dejanews.com (Adam Tyner) Subject: Re: The Daves i know.. From the KITH FAQ: Bruce: [Spoken] Hi, I'm Bruce McCulloch. I'd like to tell you about the Daves I know. [Singing: ] These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know David Hoffman He works in my dad's store He's worked here for 12 years He'll probably work here for more These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know Dave Gort I've known since I was six In grade eight he broke his leg So we got drunk and sick These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know Some of them are Davids [Dave Gort: But most of us are Daves] They all have their own hands But they come from different moms These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know Dave Jadiski Man, this cat can swing He weighs almost 50 pounds And he delivers my paper on time These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know Dave Capisano I hardly know him ... [Bruce stands around, looking vaguely uncomfortable for the rest of the measure] These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know These are the Daves I know, I know These are the Daves I know [Next two measures sung by the Daves Bruce knows: ] We are the Daves he knows, he knows We are the Daves he knows We are the Daves he knows, he knows We are the Daves he knows Some of us them are Davids But most of us are Daves We all have our own hands But we come from different moms These are the Daves I know, I know [Daves: We are the Daves he knows, he knows] [All: These are the Daves] On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:51:47 GMT, Brenda Longstreet wrote: > > > >Ok, i know we have been getting busted on for non-fru related content, >but i dont know where else to go with this question.... > >does ANYONE remember the kids in the hall episode where bruce sings >the song "these are the daves i know"? i have a bet with my brother >and i am looking for the lyrics to the last verse....also, if anyone >does know the song, ive noticed that it begins very much like "why >does the sun shine" by tmbg.....anyone hear this too??? > >(i hope i am not the ONLY one...) > >-brenda > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:44:46 GMT From: NYCjezebel@aol.com Subject: Re: hi ok, that was enough to make me have an (minor) asthma attack from laughing so hard!!! windmills? ~Angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:04:21 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: Misheard Lyric Revisited On Tuesday, November 17, 1998 10:18 PM, gemini@p3.net [SMTP:gemini@p3.net] wrote: > Heehee, I never mentioned my own frudegreen back when the thread was > going. Mine is from Your New Boyfriend, and I also kind of like it :) > > "Well that's what you said when we were both in bed." I have one, too. Mine is evil... From Sahara: "They said my ass held fire" I can't sing the song any other way. Sorry, Mike! Melanie visit www.kissthisguy.com for more ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:47:18 -0800 From: Caitlin Subject: Re: hi ROTFL Is *this* what happens when you lose too much sleep due to following a certain group of musicians from Toronto? Thanks for the best giggle of my morning! (And goddess am I sorry to be so far away from all of the fru-shows!) ____ \ /__ Caitlin Xantha Hazen \/ / caitlin@wayward-volvo.org \/ http://www.wayward-volvo.org/xanthe.html On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Richard Butterworth wrote: > Hello Angel and well done for spotting the slightly confusing nature of some of > the posts on this ng. I feel it my duty to point out that this is, in fact, not > a forum for dicussion of Moxy Fruvous related issues at all, but a huge > government conspiracy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:44:06 GMT From: "Schwan, Phil" Subject: Re: "Fly" Apocrypha You wrote something to the effect of: Here's a question for those of you who've been to a few dozen gigs or so: has anyone out there ever heard the second verse of "Fly"? I think it could add so much dimension to an already meaningful song, but I've never actually heard it. :( Is there hope? The only time I've ever heard it was on a tape Marty Cosgrove had of a REALLY old concert way back when they first started playing Fly. The sound and feel of the song were VERY different. I never managed to get a copy of that particular concert, so I barely even remember what it sounded like, but I know that it HAS been done live with the full lyrics. On a side note, to anyone who has this tape or one like it, I would be VERY interested in getting a copy. - -Phil, with only two tapes:( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:05:50 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Re:[a Distinct Lack of Degrees] >I was just hoping she didn't take offense at Jian, of all people. yeah. it would be a shame if her first impression of the band was a bad one because of a misunderstood jian quip. ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:26:31 GMT From: "Glen -Skip- Newell" Subject: YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE THIS...*LOL* YOU GOTTA SEE THIS... First, remember the 'naked puppet shtick from 'Live noise'...then go to this url... http://www.suck.com/daily/98/11/18/nc_index2.html ...Coincidence ? I don't think so... *rflmao* Skip ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:20:40 GMT From: "Glen -Skip- Newell" Subject: YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE THIS...*LOL* YOU GOTTA SEE THIS... First, remember the 'naked puppet shtick from 'Live noise'...then go to this url... http://www.suck.com/daily/98/11/18/nc_index2.html ...Coincidence ? I don't think so... *rflmao* Skip ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:20:03 GMT From: "Glen -Skip- Newell" Subject: YOU GUYS HAVE TO SEE THIS...*LOL* YOU GOTTA SEE THIS... First, remember the 'naked puppet shtick from 'Live noise'...then go to this url... http://www.suck.com/daily/98/11/18/nc_index2.html ...Coincidence ? I don't think so... *rflmao* Skip ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:15:16 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: Renaming the Katie On Wednesday, November 18, 1998 2:05 AM, drea1@my-dejanews.com [SMTP:drea1@my-dejanews.com] wrote: > Melanie Rawn! (Ok, so this hooks into the fan thread too) I highly recommend > all of her books...shows how long it's been since I read the Dragon Prince and > Dragon Star series, didn't even connect Jihan and Jian *g* As for a name > suggestion, how about Cailet (just to stay in the 'Rawn characters' vein)? I think you guys are overlooking the obvious... How about Melanie?? :^) - -- M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:02:46 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: "Fly" Apocrypha >Define "heard"... I've heard it. It was in there in the beginning, >when Fly was in the same stage Pisco or Grudge or Half as Much are in >now before Wood came out. Honestly, I agree on its removal. Fly is >already a long song and can some times be really cumbersome in a >set list if misplaced. But other times, when well put, it works >wonders. agreed. "fly" is one of my favorite songs, but it is kinda long. ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:02:46 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: "Fly" Apocrypha >Define "heard"... I've heard it. It was in there in the beginning, >when Fly was in the same stage Pisco or Grudge or Half as Much are in >now before Wood came out. Honestly, I agree on its removal. Fly is >already a long song and can some times be really cumbersome in a >set list if misplaced. But other times, when well put, it works >wonders. agreed. "fly" is one of my favorite songs, but it is kinda long. ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:04:20 GMT From: koogle@clark.net Subject: Re: The Daves i know.. In article <19981118144737.15526.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com>, Brenda Longstreet wrote: > > > Ok, i know we have been getting busted on for non-fru related content, > but i dont know where else to go with this question.... > > does ANYONE remember the kids in the hall episode where bruce sings > the song "these are the daves i know"? i have a bet with my brother > and i am looking for the lyrics to the last verse....also, if anyone > does know the song, ive noticed that it begins very much like "why > does the sun shine" by tmbg.....anyone hear this too??? FWIW, it's on Bruce's CD _Shame Based Man_. I know there used to be lyrics on the web in several things, might search the dejanews archive for whatever the Kids NG is. I need a new copy of this discs. The next one will be my third, but folks keep losing mine. Grrrrr. - --Amanda Scissors cut Paper. Paper covers Rock. Rock crushes Scissors. - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:49:53 GMT From: Alan Sigman Subject: FruMiles Is there a list somewhere of stuff you can get for your FruMiles? I know it appeared in a Fruvous Quill, but I've long since lost it. I don't see it mentioned anywhere on FDC. -Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:44:59 GMT From: Alan Sigman Subject: FruConfectioners On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 04:08:13 GMT, Lori croaked: >Joni sez: > >>I unfortunately missed out on Lori's brownies. > >Oh, heck, I'll make 'em again. They're my son's favorite, and they're >really not difficult. (ooops. should never let trade secrets slip.) > >I'll bring a big batch to Frucon ... > >oh. that's right. :( sorry. > >I'll also bring some the next time we hit a gig together, Joni. :) I doubt I'll make it to FruCon either, but if you happen to have some extra brownies you need to get rid of, just bring them up to Section 217A, Row 9, Seats 6 & 7 at the FU Center on 11/27 or 11/29. (I still have a Beavis&Butthead reaction everytime I hear that: "heh heh, he said 'FU', heh heh") -Alan, yet another Fruhead Chocoholic ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #36 *******************************************