From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #25 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, November 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 025 Today's Subjects: ----------------- cool ladies (was: the return of Amy Rigby...) [Srm9988n@aol.com] Fru and Broadway [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Fruvous junque, Pisco fries, curling Murrmaids etc (sort of a Katonah review [Srm9988] Re: tri-lingual? [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Fru and Broadway... ["KatieWow" ] Re: rainbow connection] [Chad Maloney ] Re: Bizarre media stuff... [nafio@my-dejanews.com] Re: rainbow connection] [Chad Maloney ] Re: Fruvous junque, Pisco fries, curling Murrmaids etc (sort of a Katonah review) [nafio@my-de] Re: Fruvous junque, Pisco fries, curling Murrmaids etc (sort of a Katonah review) [nafio@my-de] Re: Bizarre media stuff... [Chad Maloney ] Re: Fru and Broadway... [Eve Lauria ] Katonah addendum/King of Spain [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Fru and Broadway... [Dagonet ] Re: First concerts??? [krista-dawn@home.com] Re: Bizarre media stuff... [ctyner@my-dejanews.com (Adam Tyner)] Re: [Re: Fru and Broadway...] [Angie Armstrong ] Re: Essay Question [nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole ] Re: what a bunch of smarties!!! [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] Re: [Re: rainbow connection!] [nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.o] Re: Fruvous Etiquette [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:20:09 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: cool ladies (was: the return of Amy Rigby...) Lace informed me: >>another cool lady is the one who sings about the relaxation tape man. >>Anyone know who I'm talking about? >Christine Lavin! That's from her new live album _One Wild Night In Concert_ Thank you very much! - -- Lori (who hasn't even heard grudge yet :P) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:25:56 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Fru and Broadway Eve Lauria said: >My first show was Phantom of the Opera, then Les > Miserables > > But I do like Moxy Fruvous...expanding my musical tastes! But Moxy Fruvous *does* Les Miz! Actually, on Saturday FruWitch and I were talking about them doing Finnegan's Wake :D - -- Lori (still the little Murrmaid, but maybe by tomorrow I'll be talking again. like the world needs that.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:34:20 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: Fruvous junque, Pisco fries, curling Murrmaids etc (sort of a Katonah review Ladywench tries to backpedal: >And . . . uh . . . if any of the Lads read this (*gulp* yeah, I know) and heard >the really dumb challenge I made at the end of that . . . uh, I was drunk? On nothing but hot chocolate and lack of sleep. > I was on medication? Drugs? Yeah. Ladywench and Chelsea Clinton both. > eeeep. I thought she was Scottish, not Swiss. >FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . For the record, she had a bed. What a weekend! I may never recover :) :) :) :) *FruBliss* - -- Lori the Little Murrmaid (I'll have fries with that) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:06:16 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: tri-lingual? krista-dawn@home.com delighted us with: >Awhile back, someone mentioned in a review that Dave, while playing the >accordian, started to sing in German. Does Dave actually *know* German, >or was he just stringing a bunch of German words together? Are any of >the other guys tri-lingual? Well, I know Jian speaks English and Farsi, and *sings* in French -- but not sure how well he actually *knows* French. No idea what the deal is with the other guys.... unless, of course, you count each video game as a language of its own, and then Murray is the most amazing polyglot I've ever seen, and thus my personal god. :) - -v, language afficionado Vika Zafrin vika@ibm.net Vika_Zafrin@Brown.edu "Lover holds you when others go, covers you with another soul, stands behind you when you stand alone and you don't explain..." -Patty Larkin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:12:00 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Fru and Broadway... are we making broadway recommendations?!?!?! yeah, man! into the woods is my personal favorite--the fairy tale setting belies the intelligence and message sondheim and lapine infused. i was in it twice, and every time i listen to it, i learn something new. awesome stuff! another sondheim musical, merrily we roll along, is not quite as masterful as "woods," but it is fascinating and well-done nonetheless. it's a story told _backward_ with really great songs and characters. and jason alexander is on the original cast album :). of course, there's "rent," "crazy for you," "godspell" (a sentimental favorite), "pippin," and a multitude of others. i'm sure i'll think of a million more during my next two classes :). uh oh . . . (kate's eyes dart back and forth as her mind races to find a frü connection) um . . . i wonder if the guys are musical theater fans? (a sad attempt, but heck--i've got an exam today!) ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:54:21 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: rainbow connection] krista-dawn@home.com wrote: > up his new copy of "A Day in the Life of Ivan 'Whats-his-name'" - and Densivich or something like that. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:52:08 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff... fe@avon.net.au (Fe Waters) wrote: > >Hey cool! How did it get there? Did you order it or has it just shown up in a > No, I had to order it - I'm getting used to the odd looks and the > _repeated_ help with spelling the name:-) I feel your pain. > But there's hope - last time I was there, they had a number of Barenecked > Ladies CD's... and they were completely unknown a few months ago:-) Not _completely_ : Tiffany West (who has disappeared off the face of the 'net where _are_ you Tiff?) was a 'net pal of mine who encountered a hell of a lot of Canadians in her European tour group and fell in love with BNL. I sent her a tape or two afterwards as I recall. If you find her (she's in radio now and keeps job-hopping) I'm sure you could make her into a fellow Fruhead. Fiona - -- "magasinage outre-frontieres" - -Mike Ford Nov 7 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:51:42 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: rainbow connection] petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > > AUGH! I am, like, Queen Obsession when it comes to the Princess Bride! > Any of you out there who claim to truly love it and have never read the > book need to get off of your duffs and locomotor to whatever bookstore > you are not currently boycotting and BUY THAT MO-FO! ("The Princess > Bride" by William Goldman) Well worth the over-inflated cost of a > paperback. Or if you want something nice you can keep, just wait a little bit and the 25th anniversary edition will be coming out and it has an intro by Goldman and an epilogue that may be the first chapter of Buttercups's Baby, the supposed (can we ever believe Goldman?) sequel. I used to have a TPB webpage, so Random House emails me updates about Bride related stuff. Pretty neato. http://www.randomhouse.com/princessbride/ for more info. Of course, I don't have the whole movie memorized any more, but I do know way too many Frufacts for anyone's own personal good... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:45:27 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Fruvous junque, Pisco fries, curling Murrmaids etc (sort of a Katonah review) In article <19981116070822.29792.00002068@ng123.aol.com>, fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) wrote: > In her wonderful review, Lori wrote . . . > > Jen took out her tin whistle and started playing. A chorus > >ensued, after which she promptly replaced the C whistle with a G and > >played as fast as she could. Much applause, and then a twenty-voice > >rendition of Gulf War Song, followed by Michael Row the Boat Ashore. > > I would like to point out that I was COMPLETLY oblivious to the fact that the > Lads green room was in the classroom immediatly next to the line!! These things always happen to you Jen. And you're so cute when they do! *g*(/me mutters something about grilled cheese sandwiches) So Lori. What was this challenge? Or will I have to threaten LW with the pail on IRC to get the story? Fiona - -- "magasinage outre-frontieres" - -Mike Ford Nov 7 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:32:11 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Fruvous junque, Pisco fries, curling Murrmaids etc (sort of a Katonah review) Lori wrote: > Now where exactly do I begin? > I guess the beginning would be good. Oh dear lord Lori. What a great way to start a Monday. I hear ladywench has already replied and I bet she's horrified *g* (We love you Jen sweetie) > deteriorating with each of her tales. (Umm, Chrissy, Michelle, Drea? > We *must* get together sometime! :) ) Are you _sure_ you want to do that? You just invited 2/3 of the Terrible Trio to descend upon you. Add me and Jen and goodness knows what might happen. > The mermaid was holding a broom. > And Jen observed, "look, that mermaid is curling." > And that was when we all knew it was going to be That Kind of Night. Ok now I wish I had gone to Katonah. Financially impossible, yes, but I'm still jealous! > The Lads. Oh, yes, we were there for the Lads. One does tend to forget that until the music starts. Glad the Pisco Dance isn't quite dead yet. ;) > Spidey -- Mike was springing all over the place, leaped into audience > tried to toss his sweatshirt over Jason Reiser's equipment but > Jason snagged it. Jason's becoming quite adept at foiling Mike. Must come of being Target #1. > better class of stuff. When the Lads came back onstage he bestowed > fluorescent pink Clearwater t-shirts on them. (Now they can all look like > homicidal flamingoes :) ) You're scaring me ;) Fiona - -- "magasinage outre-frontieres" - -Mike Ford Nov 7 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:01:03 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff... drea1@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > > How about Red Dwarf fans? There must be some in this crowd. :) > > Red Dwarf!!!! :) I got introduced to that show my first year of university > (live in a res with a bunch of electrical engineering students and you get > introduced to lots of things *lol*!) Cat's my favourite character: "I'm gonna > eat you little fishy!" My best Red Dwarf memory (I've only seen the show up until the first Holly left, so there may be good stuff after that) was when Cat found all of Lister's cigarettes that Rimmer had hidden to use as collateral for not turning him off and putting in the Cochansky hologram. Cat had found them because they were shiny and was walking around singing when Rimmer ran across him. Rimmer was trying to get him to put them back and so brought out the bargaining chips. He offered 3 fish. Cat countered with 5 fish. Rimmer said I'll give you all the fish you could ever want. "Six fish?" countered Cat. *smile* Then, later, after Rimmer had taught the Cat how to use the food machine, he would just continually walk up to it and go "Fish!" "Today's fish is Trout al a Creme" "Fish!" "Today's fish is Trout al a Creme"... Either that or the Toaster. The Toaster was just so cool. "Nice warm scrummy toast!" > Actually, while we're on the topic of British SF shows, how many people are > Dr. Who fans, and which is your favourite Doctor? (Mine's Tom Baker) Ah, in grade school and junior high, me and my friend Andy (who has opened for Fruvous in the band Prince Mishkins in Champaign for some Fruvous tie in for you diehards) were big Doctor Who people. We had seen more or less all of them up to the middle of the 6th Doctor which were all that were out at the time. Peter Davidson was my favorite, though Baker had his moments. I didn't like Pertwee much at all, didn't see enough of Troughton to really like him, Colin Baker seemed a pretentious bastard, and Bill Hartnell wasn't really exciting enough. Or maybe I just liked Adric and K9 and Peri and Tegan... - Chad (too much old info wasting space in my head) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:03:36 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: Fru and Broadway... You know, that's sad...I didn't even know Michael Ball was in Whistle Down the Wind. That came out long after my Webber phase was over. And I was so in love with him to. I seem to be one of those rare (or not so rare) individuals who can fall in love with someone just from hearing their voice. When I was 13 I got the London recording of Les Miz and when Michael Ball sang "Red and Black" I was hooked for years... Another case in point: I was listening to Bargainville for a year before I ever saw Fruvous live. (I'm not even trying for the umlaut; this computer would probably explode if I went for anything as ambitious as that.) Eve On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Paul Mischler wrote: > Cool! I just did a production of Chess too... I have a couple of songs from > that show in my playlist, along with Moxy, Phantom and others... Cool! > > Now for the bonus points... Michael Ball played Marius in Les Mis in London > (1985)... Was in Aspects of Love, and Whistle down the Wind (Andrew Lloyd > Webber Musicals...) > > I also recommend the CD ALW: Premiere Collection Encore, Track 2 (Love Changes > Everything) > > But anyways... sorry that this is a little short of Frü Content... > -Paul Mischler > > Eve Lauria wrote: > > > Can I just say that in my younger years (and now to a lesser extent) I was > > obssessed with Broadway. My first show was Phantom of the Opera, then Les > > Miserables-there was a time when I had every recording of it that existed > > and had a HUGE crush on Michael Ball (and if anyone of you can tell me who > > he is you get big points from me)-, all the other stuff by Webber, Miss > > Saigon, etc. etc. Most of these I am embarrassed about having liked but I > > can still sing many of the songs. Later on I got into Sondheim...he's a > > little more intellectual. As for Chess, I have a recording of it, and I > > like it mostly because I like the people who sing on it (especially Judy > > Kuhn, who went to Oberlin--plug, plug). Most of the songs aren't very > > good, though. This was what I listened to when all the other kids were > > into New Kids on the Block and whatever else it was, I have no idea. > > Alternative rock? What's that? > > > > But I do like Moxy Fruvous...expanding my musical tastes! > > > > Eve > > > > On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > > > > > Do you mean that musical by Murray Head that featured the "hit" song, > > > "One night in Bankok," or am I missing a reference to a different post? > > > > > > Do you really like that? > > > > > > Heather Moore > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:37:09 -0500 Dagonet > > > writes: > > > > > > > >_Chess_. And _Freudiana_, being a Parsonshead from way back. > > > > > > > >D. > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > > > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:11:59 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Katonah addendum/King of Spain > the second set (again, approximate order): >King/GE&H Ummmm, I realize I didn't mention that Jian *completely* outdid himself while introducing the King's *arrival* on stage. FruWitch and I immediately went facedown in the front row, only recovering when we were dragged up to dance. Then she nearly killed us all on the way home when she referred to it while I was driving. I guess we all have our "degrees of separation". :D - -- Lori the little Murrmaid ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:35:56 -0500 From: Dagonet Subject: Re: Fru and Broadway... On 16 Nov 1998, BBWMinors wrote: > I have to somewhat second the "Chess" vote ... though I've never seen the > entire show, the ballad "Someone Else's Story" is great (I do that and "God > Give Me Strength" in my voice lessons ... quite a workout). And what's sad, is to get that song on CD you have to buy the New York _Chess_ which otherwise sucks. (They watered the show down for American audiences; it closed after a month, I think). It's not on the Euro-version... OBFru: Any Fruheads discovered Ookla the Mok 'sides me yet? I sense there would be some overlap. Imagine a much more fen version of Fru crossed with TMBG and BNL. D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:31:26 GMT From: krista-dawn@home.com Subject: Re: First concerts??? Vika Zafrin wrote: > > Well, you can always tell him that Dave looks like Baby Spice... ;) > Hey, that's right, I forgot about that thread ;-)! Maybe there's hope for him after all... ---Krista--- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:53:08 GMT From: ctyner@my-dejanews.com (Adam Tyner) Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff... With all this talk about Red Dwarf, I thought I'd mention that a great band called Mailbox has an mp3 of a cover of the theme on their site. http://www.superpickle.com/mailbox/ Sounds incredible, btw... - -Adam ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:06:44 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Re: Fru and Broadway...] ( And I was so in love with him to. I seem to be one of those rare (or not so rare) individuals who can fall in love with someone just from hearing their voice. ) *sigh* Michael Ball... I was actually going to avoid this thread, but someone evoked the name of Michael Ball... "Empty Chairs at Empty Tables" did it for me, and yeah... I used to fantasize being able to sing "A Little Fall of Rain" with him. Then I saw the "Les Mis" special on PBS (about 40x) and actually saw him. Hmmm, not bad... not exactly my taste tho. I've got a copy of "Love Changes Everything" from Aspects of Love that sends chills everytime I listen to it. I was so obessed by "Phantom of the Opera," read a novel by Mary Kay called "Phantom" (the pre-quel of sorts from the Phantom's perspective, from the time he was born leading up to the time of Christine Daae), read the original, read all sorts of material on the Musical, learned a ton of the music (I actually was able to cleanly hit that god-awful high note for about 1 year, but fell out of practice and now it's a strain), I even found a copy of the animated feature (but have since lost it). All that, and would you believe as of yet I still haven't seen it on Stage?!? Les Miserables is still my all-time favorite, though... - --Angie (still afflicted with Laryngitis, ugh) ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:22:31 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Fruvous on the Brain After describing Friday night's events (with a great deal of difficulty, considering I sound like a ... [Canadian] Goose), my friend Julia determined that I was not only a "groupie" but that I was also "pathetic". I'm now inclined to agree. Since I can't make any phone calls today, I'm sitting in on a Visual Basic for Applications class with some of the other instructors. One of the two instructors teaching is wearing a tie that his son picked out (his 4 yr old is in charge of his accessories). This particular tie is black, with Elmo standing on Grover's head, and Grover is standing on top of Oscar the Grouch's garbage can lid, and Oscar is peeking out with his mouth wide open. 3 guesses as to what my first thoughts were as I saw this tie (and the first 2 are free!) I can't look at his tie now without cracking up in class, and everyone else thinks I've lost it... ;^) - --Angie, the pathetic ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:24:44 GMT From: nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: Essay Question On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:22:48 -0600, the sky opened up and Josh Drury spake thusly: >Nicole the Wonder Nerd wrote: >> On 3 Nov 1998 07:05:25 GMT, the sky opened up and kazmar100@aol.com >> (Kazmar100) spake thusly: >> >Explain in one hundred words or less, the meaning of the song Present Tense >> >Tureen. >> I think it's a sort of modern zen koan, and any answer you eventually >> get is less important than the process of searching for it. I've >> found my own answer, but it probably would only make sense to me. >> --nicole twn >> hey, only 39 words >Cool. cut it down to 17 syllables, and you could make it a haiku. Oh, very well. Honestly, you people are picky. :) What is the sound of An empty tureen of soup Equipped with no spoon? - --nicole twn who really should be writing a lab report right now... it's due in 3 hours... - -- "When your dream comes true, you're out one dream."--The Nields Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is modified to escape the spammers... sorry for the inconvenience. spam trap: postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost root@localhost ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:37:49 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: what a bunch of smarties!!! On 13 Nov 1998 00:30:23 GMT, Ambush Bug wrote: >Actually, that reminds me of "The New Adventures of Abraham Lincoln," by >Scott McCloud, in which it is decided that Benjamin Franklin must have >been a president as he is on the $100 dollar bill. Hilarious. Oh boy, this is WAY off topic, but you've brought up the pictures on money and I can't help myself. Is it just me, or does anyone else think the picture of Jackson on the new $20s looks suspiciously like Jeff Conway from Grease? Imagine some hair gel and a T-Birds leather jacket on him and you have Kinicki! It kinda fits too, because all my $20s seem to disappear like Greased Lightning :) Am I sick or what? - -- Trace gemini@p3.net "I'm not clever enough to be unintelligible." - -Jane Austen, "Northanger Abbey" "It would have to be the most inglorious death of all, 'The Bathroom Accident.'" - -Murray Foster, on the preferred manner of death for Fruvous publicity. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:42:13 GMT From: nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: [Re: rainbow connection!] On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 03:59:54 GMT, the sky opened up and ceelove@ibm.net (Colleen Campbell) spake thusly: >On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:12:48 GMT, nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org >(Nicole the Wonder Nerd) wrote: >>--nicole twn >>faced with a truly difficult choice: Fruvous at FruCon or EFO in >>California???? The more I think about it, the harder it gets... >Fruvous, of course! What newsgroup are you on, here, c'mon! More to >the point, Fruvous *and innumerable Fruheads* at FruCon. See? This is the worst part--this horrible decision to make, and all of my friends are all squarely "Fruvous!" or "EFO!" or "Huh?" > Thing is, if >you miss EFO, the only person helping you to regret it afterwards will >be you. . . Erm.... make that me, my best friend, and my legion of edhead converts. I swear, I'm a victim of my own success. :) >but if you miss FruCon, you're going to have to wade >through dozens and dozens of posts reminding you of who all you could >have see there. I know, I know. :( If it was just about the music, I'd have picked EFO a long time ago (sorry, guys, but superlatively incredible concert 3000 miles away vs. very-nearly-superlatively-incredible concert 2 1/2 miles away is an easy choice, especially if you're a poor college student.) Unfortunately, it isn't. I hate this! I hate making decisions under the best of circumstances. I'm going to obsess about this for the next four months, I can just tell. :( - --nicole the woeful neurotic - -- "When your dream comes true, you're out one dream."--The Nields Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is modified to escape the spammers... sorry for the inconvenience. spam trap: postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost root@localhost ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:56:28 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: Fruvous Etiquette On 13 Nov 1998 02:18:26 GMT, bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote: >Okay, I think I have to get this off my chest but I fear I am GUILTY OF >VIOLATING THE FRUVOUS ETIQUETTE on Monday night at the Vault. > >I'm kind of small (5-2 and I wear flats) and had every intention of sitting on >the side on a stool with the folks I'd come with. But I couldn't see the stage >at all (two very tall dudes stood right in front of us, and that's life, >nothing I can do about it) and the couple we were with who had seen Fruvous >several times knew that this was my first show and urged me to go up to the >stage to truly "experience" it. > >I didn't elbow or shove or anything, just kind of wended my way through open >spots (this was still pre-show) until I found myself, amazingly enough, near >the front, "stage Jian/Mike" (but at that one spot where the cymbal blocks >Jian's head when he's drumming so not exactly primo). I immediately introduced >myself to the people near me, assuming them (correctly it turns out) to be NG >and wanting to match screen names to faces. They were wonderful and welcoming >but now I just want to make sure I didn't inadvertently offend anyone (I did >joke that I made sure not to stand in front of anyone who couldn't easily see >over me). Well, the backs of my knees are intact so I guess I couldn't have >been TOO bad (Wendy?????). Hey Lisa, I also try to get to the front. I usually try to get to the venue early enough to be up front easily, but sometimes that doesn't happen. My thoughts are that if there are open spaces, and I don't have to push/elbow people out of the way, then there is room for me :) Remember, both nature and concerts crowds abhor a vacuum :) I don't see any reason to ignore open space up front just because I didn't get there two hours before the opening act :) If there are people I know up front, all the better, but if not, I'll get to know whomever I'm near. So, my point is that as long as it is done politely, I don't see a problem with scooting as close to the front of the crowd as possible. And also, crowds are generally disorganized and fluid, it is not as if there are assigned seats, know what I mean? :) - -- Trace gemini@p3.net "I'm not clever enough to be unintelligible." - -Jane Austen, "Northanger Abbey" "It would have to be the most inglorious death of all, 'The Bathroom Accident.'" - -Murray Foster, on the preferred manner of death for Fruvous publicity. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #25 *******************************************