From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #944 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, November 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 944 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Halloween Setlist [Moz (Chris Moesel) ] Re: Frureference In Nields Song [jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McCl] Re: Saturday night show [hKatherine@ehmail.com] Re: Frureference In Nields Song [nafio@my-dejanews.com] Re: Quote of the weekend [petit_chou@juno.com] It's a review, no it's a quotelist.. surprise! It's both! [nafio@my-dejan] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 3 Nov 1998 11:27:13 -0800 From: Moz (Chris Moesel) Subject: Re: Halloween Setlist In article <363f2a34.2842371@news.cyberenet.net>, gemini@p3.net says... >Hmm, maybe Cal would like to post a response to this and set us >straight. "Not be extensively traded" seems a little vague and >unfair. Either it should be available for trade to everyone or no >one, since it doesn't seem right for some Fruheads to be able to get >it but not others. I mean, who decides who can get it, you know what I >mean? I had thought audio tapes were cool with the band, but if they >are not in this case, please Cal, set us straight :) As far as I understood, it's ok to trade, within, of course, the non-commercial restrictions-- which means that no profit is to be made on the recordings. This not only means no cash profit, but no profit of any kind (for example, so called "2-for-1" trades). I believe that the tapers of these shows believe very much in the ethics of this agreement and will neither make a profit themselves nor trade with anyone else who might try to make a profit off of the shows. I quote from a post Cal made just less than 1 week ago: "PS - Audiotaping of the shows, with permission from band, crew, or management before the gig, and for *non-commercial* use only, is still cool, as always." So, if I'm wrong about this, then someone please speak up, but otherwise, I know there's a good number of fruheads who didn't make it to the shows and would love to hear the wonderful things Fruvous did this weekend. And, of course, those who *were* there, who wish to have a lasting memory (almost a "snapshot") of the experience to enjoy for months and years to come! Surfacing Once Again, MOZopher Moesel **************************CHRIS*****MOZ*****MOESEL**************************** * I have one longing only: to grasp what is hidden behind appearances, to * * ferret out that mystery which brings me to birth and then kills me, to * * discover if, behind the visible and unceasing stream of the world, an * * invisible and immutable presence is hiding. -Nikos Kazantzakis * ------------------------------ Date: 3 Nov 1998 20:38:04 GMT From: jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure) Subject: Re: Frureference In Nields Song Chad Maloney (opercmm@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu) wrote: : : So, whenever I hear that part of Misplaced (I was out in the field : collecting strength for my shield) my mind goes straight to a video : game, you know? Something like Legend of Zelda or something where : you get really beat up fighting something and in order to get better : you wander around a field of no monsters for awhile to get your : health back up or your shield strength back up. Boy, am I a geek : or what... Oh thanks a lot I'll never be able to think about that song in the same way again now. :) jordan - -- Interpretation is the revenge of the intellect upon art. --Susan Sontag ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:27:40 GMT From: hKatherine@ehmail.com Subject: Re: Saturday night show In article <71luna$noe$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, nafio@my-dejanews.com wrote: > Lori wrote: > > > this sounds a lot like the Luxor...but longer. > > It was. But most of us who were there who were also at Luxor agreed that due > to the smaller number of US there, the addition of Vance, That's Any Good and > expecially the lack of recording equipment, that Luxor was better in its own > little way. > > Fiona > (Yeah ok so I'm gloating. I don't get to see the lads till February. I need to > gloat about what i can.) And I can co-gloat, right? You're right, Luxor was totally different... and probably better, but for a bunch of different reasons :) Were you at Luxor in '98? hKath - -- "I'll have a smile... to go." -- Topon Das - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:36:03 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Frureference In Nields Song Chad Maloney wrote: > So, whenever I hear that part of Misplaced (I was out in the field > collecting strength for my shield) my mind goes straight to a video > game, you know? Something like Legend of Zelda or something where > you get really beat up fighting something and in order to get better > you wander around a field of no monsters for awhile to get your > health back up or your shield strength back up. Boy, am I a geek > or what... Well I immediately visualize "Gauntlet" if it makes you feel any better Fiona (hoping desperately that's the image Jian wanted to call to mind or hes' gonna be appalled.) - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:55:42 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: Quote of the weekend For some reason (perhaps extreme sleep dep), I found this hysterical. Just the idea of seeing some maniacal little kid saying "we LOVE to put our heads on!" is incredibly funny to me. And the anarchist nun thing nearly made me wet myself. Cheers, Joni. Heather Moore On 3 Nov 1998 19:22:16 GMT jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe) writes: >For quote of the weekend I would like to nominate ( a million >differnet >things...?) the 2 adorable budgie dog kids, upon Adrienne and I >asking if we >could take their picture > >Barry/Yellow: Ok, but you can _ only_ take one. >Larry/Red: He's just kidding you can take as many as you want! >Me: Would you guys put your heads on? >Larry: Sure! We LOVE to put our heads on! ::::big smile::::: > >And also, from some guy, "I know what you are, you're an anarchist nun >with a >baby." > >~Joni >~~~~~~~~~~ >"Who will you be when you're finally who you are? Well, we'll see, >won't we? >But there will be more to be by far" Greg Simon/"The Great Out There" > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:28:09 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: It's a review, no it's a quotelist.. surprise! It's both! Ok. NoHo review. Where on earth do I start? I guess I'll just ramble as usual. First off I want to echo Maige in thanking the guys for their tremendous effort which made this weekend extra-special. After each Friday set and the Saturday set all I could say was "wow" for quite a bit. Guys if those were the last Früshows I was destined to see, then I'm satisfied. The great thing is, although there's no way you could possibly top Friday's first set, you keep finding ways to make each concert just as fabulous in its own way. The company was just as amazing as the concerts. I finally got to meet Richard, ladywench, Adam, Chad, chad, Nora, leah, Jeff, Moz, mosch, Trace, and tens of others as well as see those of you I haven't seen since FruMiles or even FruCon and the other few that I seem to see every few weeks even if you *do* live in Buffalo (Chrissy!) So.. what happened that weekend? Well some of it is unpublishable *g* but I'll do my best. Thursday Things kicked off when I got on the bus for Toronto. G'bye Guelph, you can keep your midterms! A few hours later my Mum and I picked up Drea from the airport. If any of you are silly enough to think that we slept that night then you're wrong. Drea had brought her Fruvous videotape, so I got to see the videos again, a few appearances I'd missed and my first viewing of the FruCon tape. (I, thankfully, wasn't on it but I could point out to Drea where exactly I had been sitting) Around 4 am we were getting very silly and going places that no Fruhead should go with some of our ideas. We got on the newsgroup, Drea posted her rebuttal of chad's 19.5 hours post (which I will quote). Friday 5:45 am. Mike Wood knocks on the door, in full Mulder attire. (Sorry Mike, but that's what the trenchcoat makes you look like) This indicates that the taxi is here and away we go to the bus depot. The bus ride to Buffalo was long.. I didn't sleep much although the other two did. I did get a nice blackmail photo of Mike :) I nearly left my sleeping bag behind at the border. SillyNafs. 9:50 am. We arrive (late) at the Buffalo bus depot. No sign of the rest of FruCar Buffalo yet. Mike calls Chrissy's cell phone and all 5 Kwiecinskis in the phone book to no avail. (She's unlisted) Drea and I take turns patrolling the bus station. Mike plays a little Tetris. 10:30 am. AMY!!! Apparently someone slept in a little *g* Hugs all round, then we squish into Chrissy's Pimpmobile. A cop tells us that the Pimpmobile is an illegal colour. (It's a lovely metallic purple. Charming car) Breakfast? Nah let's get OUT of here.. besides Mike had a few chocolate bars on the bus. In goes Live Noise.. the CD adapter ceases to work (ack) so Drea substitutes the Clifton's show. Quotes during the drive: "Don't MAKE me turn this Frucar around" various drivers all weekend *g* On the way BACK it was answered by "Go ahead! Let's go to Vermont!" "Don't hit the prostitute!" Mike, to Amy, as she pulled out of a rest stop. "Happy New Year!" - all of us, plus the people on the NYE '97 tape, somewhere around the time we passed Utica. "Bryan Adams?" "She said it wasn't a Canadian" "Bryan Adams!" - Mike and Drea, trying to guess who does backing vocals on Alan Frew's "Healing Hands", somewhere on the I-91. (Incidentally, it was Mickey Dolenz) "Adam!" all of us, on seeing the exit for "Hatfield" We arrive at the Motel 6 ("Look, they left the light on for us!") around 6pm. The desk clerk had never heard of Moxy Fruvous, so we warned him he would hear the name several times this weekend. This worried him because the last batch of Phish fans who visited the motel caused problems. (At the end of it all he agreed we had behaved and that he needed to see Fruvous some time. He himself is a Phish fan) On the way back from South Deerfield to NoHo we pass the exits for North Hatfield and Hatfield. "We're back in North Hatfield." "What are we doing on top of Adam's head?" (ok so _we_ thought it was funny. Parking proves to be quite difficult at 6:45 pm. Eventually, after directions from various Fruheads standing in line at the Iron Horse, we see a guy pulling out of a spot. "Mike! Go stand in that space until we can pull in!" "... I was KIDDING!" We love ya Mike. He stared down someone just as close as us who was attempting to pull into the space. We trekked back to the Iron Horse, said hellos to a few people. Doors open, people pile in and dear lord do I know a lot of Fruhead names. I even saw several familiar faces. I got lifthugged by Adam, met Cchhaad and Richard and Gobo and.. oh wait I said that already. Hi all. Met a gazillion Fruheads and even have pix of a couple of them. lots of mingling, chatting, laughter. Jess Klein happened somewhere in there too and we sort of paid attention. She was very good. (Flirt with This is going to become a theme song I think) Jess Klein finishes and we take our places. I find myself stage Dave, several rows back, near Drea, Doug, Mike Wood, Maige, Amy, Adam, Jeff and in view of Richard, Marie-Claude and Katherine. TWO sets are announced. Anyone have a problem with that? not us!! Eventually BJ Don't Cry comes on. Everyone cheers and starts hunting for the guys.. they're not onstage... where ARE they? We sing along anyway, laughing. The guys take the stage to much applause in the middle of the song.. Jian pretends to look annoyed that the canned music isn't off. Then the magic happens. WOW. I bounced, I danced, I sang along, I stayed absolutely silent, I nearly cried. (Several people did cry.) Highlights.. um.. the whole show? Ok well.. "What a trip it had been. What a trip it had already been" "HAT!" "You forgot your HAT!" "Oh right we have a costume budget" "The narrator begins to feel all alone. Except for a nice sound person who looks like he should be in Depeche Mode." "What a trip it had been, what a trip it had been what a trip it had been" "Seven" Tom & Rachel. If Only Follow the Road Sad Today Homeward Bound Fell in Love Lee King of Spain Dance Mix The Drinking Song - most of us sang along, ALL of us swayed. The look on Jian's face was priceless as was the feeling in the room. I love Fruheads. I know that's not everything. I hope the band reconsiders and lets tapes go out, I never want to forget that show and already I'm needing reminders. Much gabbing followed. There was a bit of confusion when we learned that our group at Motel 6 had paid for 3 rooms even though the booking was only for 2, but that got cleared up. Bedtime in room 218 was around 4 am. Saturday Marie-Claude woke us up with a phone call at around 10:30. She and Katherine came up bearing pictures from other shows including the infamous and quite gorgeous storm shots from the Ottawa Folk Festival. Jenn (ladywench) arrived with her doumbek, several tinwhistles (have you ever heard Drinking Song on a tin whistle? very cool) her wooden flute and her glass flute. Drea got to play Sahara on a proper doumbek. Eventually we all got dressed, split up to go eat, then gathered in an area next to the Motel's pool. Not much music ensued, although Richard did play his mandolin a bit (and a bit more once I'd gone I hear). Lots of talk, signing of birthday cards, costume help, picture taking etc did take place and It Was Good. Chrissy and I headed off to the Frucon committee meeting, (late) where she got a compliment from Jian. "All I could think was.. "I'm sitting next to Princess Leia!"" Eventually (about 5 mins before doors were supposed to open, not that they did, seeing as the ENTIRE weekend was run on Fruvous time) the meeting broke up and we headed for space in line. Here we almost met Nate de Rose, but not quite.. it was 2 people he'd booked tickets for but not the man himself. One of the few I didn't meet this weekend. Drea, Amy and Richard showed up sometime during Jess Klein's set, worrying the two of us a little. I paid a lot more attention to Jess this time and she rocks. Then.. "Moxy Fruvous is unable to make it tonight." It's the Chia Pets plus Dave! (We got a lot of stories about the pre-Fruvous days) Tell me.. how many bands can do a night of covers and have their fans enjoy the show more than a regular set? Three Beatles tunes, Poor Napeoleon, stuff from Luxor '98 and NYE '97 plus others I've never heard of them playing. "One of our possible names was Love, Bonus!" "In an alternate universe, we ARE Love Bonus and you just told the crowd that one of our possible names was Moxy Fruvous. There was stunned silence, followed by hysterical laughter." - -Mike and Murray. (Murray, you read my mind) La Complainte du Phoque en Alaska. Very special. I'm not Quebecoise and I'm not even sure where I've heard the song before but wow. Gulf War Song. My first time hearing this live. I was so stunned and silent... until "history seems to agree.." Then I came to my senses and signed along as best I could. Post show.. you've never seen so many flashes at a Fruvous concert I swear. 2 nights of no photos and it was over.. so we went wild blinding each other. Most of mine came out great. Hugs and goodbyes and the nasty realization (actually the second time it's happened to me this year.. OFF and NoHo weren't supposed to happen) that I just saw my last Frushow of the year. (See you at FruCon) Quotes: "That's your car? That car changed my life!" Mike Ford to Pixel. "What? You've never heard of Moxy Fruvous? It's the band that made the Kessel run in under twelve Parsecs!" Mike Wood went as Han Solo, can you tell? Sunday Um..Ok. NoHo review. Where on earth do I start? I guess I'll just ramble as usual. First off I want to echo Maige in thanking the guys for their tremendous effort which made this weekend extra-special. After each Friday set and the Saturday set all I could say was "wow" for quite a bit. Guys if those were the last Früshows I was destined to see, then I'm satisfied. The great thing is, although there's no way you could possibly top Friday's first set, you keep finding ways to make each concert just as fabulous in its own way. The company was just as amazing as the concerts. I finally got to meet Richard, ladywench, Adam, Chad, chad, Nora, leah, Jeff, Moz, mosch, Trace, and tens of others as well as see those of you I haven't seen since FruMiles or even FruCon and the other few that I seem to see every few weeks even if you *do* live in Buffalo (Chrissy!) So.. what happened that weekend? Well some of it is unpublishable *g* but I'll do my best. Thursday Things kicked off when I got on the bus for Toronto. G'bye Guelph, you can keep your midterms! A few hours later my Mum and I picked up Drea from the airport. If any of you are silly enough to think that we slept that night then you're wrong. Drea had brought her Fruvous videotape, so I got to see the videos again, a few appearances I'd missed and my first viewing of the FruCon tape. (I, thankfully, wasn't on it but I could point out to Drea where exactly I had been sitting) Around 4 am we were getting very silly and going places that no Fruhead should go with some of our ideas. We got on the newsgroup, Drea posted her rebuttal of chad's 19.5 hours post (which I will quote). Friday 5:45 am. Mike Wood knocks on the door, in full Mulder attire. (Sorry Mike, but that's what the trenchcoat makes you look like) This indicates that the taxi is here and away we go to the bus depot. The bus ride to Buffalo was long.. I didn't sleep much although the other two did. I did get a nice blackmail photo of Mike :) I nearly left my sleeping bag behind at the border. SillyNafs. 9:50 am. We arrive (late) at the Buffalo bus depot. No sign of the rest of FruCar Buffalo yet. Mike calls Chrissy's cell phone and all 5 Kwiecinskis in the phone book to no avail. (She's unlisted) Drea and I take turns patrolling the bus station. Mike plays a little Tetris. 10:30 am. AMY!!! Apparently someone slept in a little *g* Hugs all round, then we squish into Chrissy's Pimpmobile. A cop tells us that the Pimpmobile is an illegal colour. (It's a lovely metallic purple. Charming car) Breakfast? Nah let's get OUT of here.. besides Mike had a few chocolate bars on the bus. In goes Live Noise.. the CD adapter ceases to work (ack) so Drea substitutes the Clifton's show. Quotes during the drive: "Don't MAKE me turn this Frucar around" various drivers all weekend *g* On the way BACK it was answered by "Go ahead! Let's go to Vermont!" "Don't hit the prostitute!" Mike, to Amy, as she pulled out of a rest stop. "Happy New Year!" - all of us, plus the people on the NYE '97 tape, somewhere around the time we passed Utica. "Bryan Adams?" "She said it wasn't a Canadian" "Bryan Adams!" - Mike and Drea, trying to guess who does backing vocals on Alan Frew's "Healing Hands", somewhere on the I-91. (Incidentally, it was Mickey Dolenz) "Adam!" all of us, on seeing the exit for "Hatfield" We arrive at the Motel 6 ("Look, they left the light on for us!") around 6pm. The desk clerk had never heard of Moxy Fruvous, so we warned him he would hear the name several times this weekend. This worried him because the last batch of Phish fans who visited the motel caused problems. (At the end of it all he agreed we had behaved and that he needed to see Fruvous some time. He himself is a Phish fan) On the way back from South Deerfield to NoHo we pass the exits for North Hatfield and Hatfield. "We're back in North Hatfield." "What are we doing on top of Adam's head?" (ok so _we_ thought it was funny. Parking proves to be quite difficult at 6:45 pm. Eventually, after directions from various Fruheads standing in line at the Iron Horse, we see a guy pulling out of a spot. "Mike! Go stand in that space until we can pull in!" "... I was KIDDING!" We love ya Mike. He stared down someone just as close as us who was attempting to pull into the space. We trekked back to the Iron Horse, said hellos to a few people. Doors open, people pile in and dear lord do I know a lot of Fruhead names. I even saw several familiar faces. I got lifthugged by Adam, met Cchhaad and Richard and Gobo and.. oh wait I said that already. Hi all. Met a gazillion Fruheads and even have pix of a couple of them. lots of mingling, chatting, laughter. Jess Klein happened somewhere in there too and we sort of paid attention. She was very good. (Flirt with This is going to become a theme song I think) Jess Klein finishes and we take our places. I find myself stage Dave, several rows back, near Drea, Doug, Mike Wood, Maige, Amy, Adam, Jeff and in view of Richard, Marie-Claude and Katherine. TWO sets are announced. Anyone have a problem with that? not us!! Eventually BJ Don't Cry comes on. Everyone cheers and starts hunting for the guys.. they're not onstage... where ARE they? We sing along anyway, laughing. The guys take the stage to much applause in the middle of the song.. Jian pretends to look annoyed that the canned music isn't off. Then the magic happens. WOW. I bounced, I danced, I sang along, I stayed absolutely silent, I nearly cried. (Several people did cry.) Highlights.. um.. the whole show? Ok well.. "What a trip it had been. What a trip it had already been" "HAT!" "You forgot your HAT!" "Oh right we have a costume budget" "The narrator begins to feel all alone. Except for a nice sound person who looks like he should be in Depeche Mode." "What a trip it had been, what a trip it had been what a trip it had been" "Seven" Tom & Rachel. If Only Follow the Road Sad Today Homeward Bound Fell in Love Lee King of Spain Dance Mix The Drinking Song - most of us sang along, ALL of us swayed. The look on Jian's face was priceless as was the feeling in the room. I love Fruheads. I know that's not everything. I hope the band reconsiders and lets tapes go out, I never want to forget that show and already I'm needing reminders. Much gabbing followed. There was a bit of confusion when we learned that our group at Motel 6 had paid for 3 rooms even though the booking was only for 2, but that got cleared up. Bedtime in room 218 was around 4 am. Marie-Claude woke us up with a phone call at around 10:30. She and Katherine came up bearing pictures from other shows including the infamous and quite gorgeous storm shots from the Ottawa Folk Festival. Jenn (ladywench) arrived with her doumbek, several tinwhistles (have you ever heard Drinking Song on a tin whistle? very cool) her wooden flute and her glass flute. Drea got to play Sahara on a proper doumbek. Eventually we all got dressed, split up to go eat, then gathered in an area next to the Motel's pool. Not much music ensued, although Richard did play his mandolin a bit (and a bit more once I'd gone I hear). Lots of talk, signing of birthday cards, costume help, picture taking etc did take place and It Was Good. Chrissy and I headed off to the Frucon committee meeting, (late) where she got a compliment from Jian. "All I could think was.. "I'm sitting next to Princess Leia!"" Sunday Mostly goodbyes, a few last pictures, last stop at the diner, and a quote-filled ride home. Also my intro to Da Vinci's Notebook. Paul, you had better haul your crew up to Toronto sometime!! Quotes "I flash, I slither, I dub" "How much do you make?" "Obviously not enough" - Chrissy and Amy "scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Type, type type" - Chrissy "Room service!" "You're not pancakes." Pixel and Mike "We should get down there and make sure people are moving. Let me rephrase that. We should get down and make sure people are getting ready to go." ladywench (you had to be there) "Solar power is where it's at!" Mike to Donovan, attempting to extend the goodbye to piss off the guy in the car behind us. "I have bouncing calf!" Amy "All these years of eating grilled cheese and it MEANS something dammit!" Chrissy (again, you had to be there) "I'm so worried about what happened today in NoHo" -Monty Python "There are no prostitutes to hit here. Must just be something about Amy's driving." "Amy attracts prostitutes!" Drea and me "And THERE's the horn! Two dates later I find the damned thing." Drea Drea can tell you this story. It involves the Frubus and Murray. We waved instead. "I think we need to call up the Fruguys and ask for Jenga tips" - Chrissy "I'm so sick of the Eurythmics. Blondie kicks their ass. In fact Blondie kicks their _fucking_ ass" "Thank you, Jian" Mike and Chrissy "I like you, come back soon" The gumball machine at the rest stop "Hi there! Will you be my friend? Don't leave me!" same machine "Parking area! Pull over!" "If you two want to park, fine. But what are the 3 of us gonna do?" Mike and Drea (took Mike and Chrissy several seconds to get that one. Amy was asleep) "On the way there it's the Fruway.." "..on the way back it's just depressing" Drea and Amy on the Thruway "Behave children!...says the youngest person in the car." Amy "I'd be incredibly comfortable if only I could cut off my left arm." Amy "It's the Chia Ladies plus Mike!" Mike Wood. The end of a weekend. Let's do it again sometime huh? Virtual hugs to all, including the guys, Cal, Tobey, Jude and those of you who weren't there. Fiona - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #944 ********************************************