From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #940 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, November 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 940 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Halloween Setlist [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] Re: Thank You, Fruvous. (Noho) [Loren Becker ] Re: Consider This... [nafio@my-dejanews.com] Re: Essay Question [Josh Drury ] Re: Frureference In Nields Song [Chad Maloney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 16:11:44 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: Halloween Setlist On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:50:50 GMT, hugrod@home.com (Hugo Rodrigues) wrote: >>So... um... did anyone tape this? Please contact me! > >If I'm not mistaken the band has also requested that this concert not be >extensively traded. At least that's the impression I got when some of the >finer details of my video-taping were being discussed. > Hmm, maybe Cal would like to post a response to this and set us straight. "Not be extensively traded" seems a little vague and unfair. Either it should be available for trade to everyone or no one, since it doesn't seem right for some Fruheads to be able to get it but not others. I mean, who decides who can get it, you know what I mean? I had thought audio tapes were cool with the band, but if they are not in this case, please Cal, set us straight :) hoping they're cool, - -- Trace gemini@p3.net "I'm not clever enough to be unintelligible." - -Jane Austen, "Northanger Abbey" "It would have to be the most inglorious death of all, 'The Bathroom Accident.'" - -Murray Foster, on the preferred manner of death for Fruvous publicity. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 16:27:26 GMT From: Loren Becker Subject: Re: Thank You, Fruvous. (Noho) Okay, so I'm sitting here at work and I get this message and now I'm all choked up just from reading it and remembering how much the guys shared with us this weekend. There wasn't a low point all weekend and there were too many highs to mention here but Maige got a lot of them (thanks, Frufie-Fru ). I can't possibly say it all as beautifully as Maige did but I would like to echo her thanks to everyone involved, especially the guys, for an absolutely amazing and unforgettable weekend. From the moment I got in Zard's car on Thursday morning until she left me at my house on Sunday night I felt more at ease than I have in a long time, just knowing that I shared something so special with the people around me. Each night was so uniquely wonderful for me, be it because the guys played songs I never would have dreamt I'd get to hear and that melted me on the spot or because they did something I'd wanted to hear for a long, long time (even if it did take until the second to last song on the last night ) or simply just the sheer power of being there and being surrounded by all of you. I'm not going to go into detail about every thing that made me smile or brought tears to my eyes since I could gush and trip over myself ineloquently forever but thanks to all of you - Mike, Dave, Jian, Murray, Cal, Tobey, fruheads and friends - for making it such a wonderful weekend loren. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Am I the ear that listens or am I the melody? I am not the eye that sees: I'm the images." --Eduardo Galeano, from Dias y Noches del Amor y la Guerra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 16:40:38 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Consider This... kazmar100@aol.com (Kazmar100) wrote: > what if Moxy came up with this really quirky, yet also highly irritable, song > similar to BNL's "One Week" and a whole slew of new fans (new meaning new > american fans) came onto the scene and Moxy was receiving airplay like you're > never seen...wow you a) enjoy their success? or b) condemn the new fans for > only being interested in one song? I believe we sort of got into this when Früvous started playing "I Will Hold On" . (Not that IWHO is an annoying song in any way, shape or form, it's one of my favourites!) However I have more things to say *g*. 1. I think that the nature of Früvous' music means that they are always going to have their commercial success in waves. The first commercial wave came with King of Spain and Stuck in the 90's. I believe we're going to see the next one with this next album, but I don't think it will last more than two years. At the smae time I don't think Früvous will be destroyed by the downswing anymore than they were last time. We'll still be here :) 2. The new fans would definitely not be only Americans. The Canadians would do the usual "Oh look, Canadians having success.. they're OURS" (Hugo don't bite my head off. You know that's what happens with a lot of groups even if you, me and the rest of the current Canadian fans have been around for ages) 3. I welcome new fans. If they're only interested in one song they'll go away quickly. If one song leads them on to the other 5 albums then I have no problem with them. Heck there have been more newbies than I can count over this past year and most of them are great people who add good things to the Frühead collective. I especially enjoyed reading the NoHo reviews from Frugins. Heck if they "got" Saturday's set while still new to the whole thing then they're pretty much in it for the long haul. 4. What I would *not* welcome are fans who talk about the first 5 albums as if they were simply stages in an evolution and the next one is Früvous "finally getting it together". All albums are equally important. Deal. However I don't think Früvous would actually pander to these people. Setlists tend to be pretty balanced between albums... and then they do the really cool ones like we saw this weekend. So as I said, those people would be gone pretty quickly. 5. More people, as we have discussed previously, means less access to Früvous for all of us. 200 rabid Fruheads at NoHo means not everyone gets a setlist, not everyone can be in the front row, not everyone can be Stage Murray. Guess what? I had a ton of fun anyway. The main thing is, no matter what actually happens, I think Früvous is too well-established to suddenly start catering to people who want them to play only one song. They will grow but they will still be Früvous. As long as that stays the same, who is and who isn't a fan is pretty much irrelevant. Fiona - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:22:48 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Essay Question Nicole the Wonder Nerd wrote: > > On 3 Nov 1998 07:05:25 GMT, the sky opened up and kazmar100@aol.com > (Kazmar100) spake thusly: > >Explain in one hundred words or less, the meaning of the song Present Tense > >Tureen. > > I think it's a sort of modern zen koan, and any answer you eventually > get is less important than the process of searching for it. I've > found my own answer, but it probably would only make sense to me. > > --nicole twn > hey, only 39 words Cool. cut it down to 17 syllables, and you could make it a haiku. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:32:36 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Frureference In Nields Song Nicole the Wonder Nerd wrote: > Not me... I read it to "Misplaced". (Must have been the "out in the > field" line.) But that falls apart after the third line, so I like > yours much better. :) Okay, I'm catching up on the 387 posts to the ng that occured whilst I was on my way/in/coming back from Massachuesettes, so here's my first (of probably many) posts =) Embarassing talk about what Chad thinks time... So, whenever I hear that part of Misplaced (I was out in the field collecting strength for my shield) my mind goes straight to a video game, you know? Something like Legend of Zelda or something where you get really beat up fighting something and in order to get better you wander around a field of no monsters for awhile to get your health back up or your shield strength back up. Boy, am I a geek or what... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:07:58 GMT From: Marie.Claude@canada.com Subject: Re: No No NoHo > OH MY GOODNESS! Heather, I was Hester Prynne too! At NoHo! What a > coincedence! Of all the things to be, 2 ng's were the same fictional > character! Wow. Jian had NO idea who I was though. It was kinda cute, he > complimented my costume and then said "What is the A for?" Ah well, it is > american literature. Heh. (Roughly:) BILL: "Marie-Claude, come over here! This is Joni. Jianbabe." ME: "Hi! Ooh -- the scarlett letter! I like it." YOU: "Oh my god! Yes! Nobody knows what I am! Woo hoo!" Nice meeting you too *grin* - -- Marie-Claude "I'm beside myself. I'm over there." - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:30:54 -0000 From: "pam :)" Subject: Re: Thank You, Fruvous. (Noho) You know, I wasn't even at NoHo, and both of your posts brought me to tears! I just am so glad that I "know" (even though I don't know you personally...yet) you guys and that Moxy Fruvous has such fantastic fans!! :) Kudos to you all. Okay, I will stop gushing now.... - -- pam :) Live life for today before tomorrow is gone... Loren Becker wrote in message <363F2D62.409AC839@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>... >Okay, so I'm sitting here at work and I get this message and now I'm all >choked up just from reading it and remembering how much the guys shared with >us this weekend. There wasn't a low point all weekend and there were too >many highs to mention here but Maige got a lot of them (thanks, Frufie-Fru >). > >I can't possibly say it all as beautifully as Maige did but I would like to >echo her thanks to everyone involved, especially the guys, for an absolutely >amazing and unforgettable weekend. From the moment I got in Zard's car on >Thursday morning until she left me at my house on Sunday night I felt more >at ease than I have in a long time, just knowing that I shared something so >special with the people around me. Each night was so uniquely wonderful for >me, be it because the guys played songs I never would have dreamt I'd get to >hear and that melted me on the spot or because they did something I'd wanted >to hear for a long, long time (even if it did take until the second to last >song on the last night ) or simply just the sheer power of being there >and being surrounded by all of you. > >I'm not going to go into detail about every thing that made me smile or >brought tears to my eyes since I could gush and trip over myself >ineloquently forever but thanks to all of you - Mike, Dave, Jian, Murray, >Cal, Tobey, fruheads and friends - for making it such a wonderful weekend > >loren. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"Am I the ear that listens or am I the melody? I am not the eye that sees: >I'm the >images." --Eduardo Galeano, from Dias y Noches del Amor y la Guerra > > > ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #940 ********************************************