From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #833 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, October 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 833 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: it's a fruworld after all..... ["Bridget" ] Re: the Gospel according to Fruvous [Tim Cain ] Re: Review: Bloominton & NKU (very long) [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] Heh. Anyone Got Floor? [Moz (Chris Moesel) ] Re: The Gospel According to Frvous [hugrod@home.com (Hugo Rodrigues)] Re: I will hold on [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] Re: The Gospel According to Frvous [hugrod@home.com (Hugo Rodrigues)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:23:40 -0600 From: "Bridget" Subject: Re: it's a fruworld after all..... holy.......... i didn't mean to post this damn message thirty times.......... huh. and it seems my exclamation point has gone a bit screwy!! well, if you got the jist of my post, that's pretty cool, if you don't care, what the f**k? take 'er easy bridget (o: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:22:18 GMT From: Tim Cain Subject: Re: the Gospel according to Fruvous "Srm9988n@aol.com" wrote: >But if some people feel left behind because or that, because they're now playing to more crowds of a thousand or more and to fewer passerby on street corners, it's important to recognize that since the indie tape they have evolved considerably as artists and performers. They obviously enjoy doing small gigs; the intimate energy that permeates a room when there are about a hundred people present is far greater than it is at larger shows. They are obviously comfortable at that level, and I don't expect to see them playing an arena anytime soon. But whether they busk or play a small bar or a folk festival or a stadium is their decision, based on factors only they can know and judge, and anyone not willing to grant them that basic right of self-determination and growth must be more concerned with his own ego and convenience than with the guys' success and happiness.<< This is an interesting and, for me, relieving vision of what's going on with the guys right now. I was lucky enough to hit four shows over the past two weeks (and travel 1,500 miles without having to take vacation time -- I love my boss!), and the crowds have been phenomenal. A sellout in Lafayette, a packed room in Bloomington, and a huge crowd in Champaign (where they didn't sell out, but given how much room is in the Canopy, selling it out would be maybe 700). I wanted to hit as many shows on this stretch as possible, because I'm not sure how much longer they can keep playing these smaller venues. The train sure seems to be gathering momentum. The relief I feel is in the realization that the band isn't in it for the cash, or to be ROCK STARS. Too often in the past when I've been following bands at this level, I've ultimately been disappointed when they've failed to show any artistic growth, or been out for nothing more than a grab at the brass ring. My thought and hope is that these guys are mature enough and have enough vision to stay true to themselves rather than become flavor of the month. I'll follow them wherever they want to go, as long as they're moving forward. Am I making any sense at all, or is this just some brain-dead hippie ramblings? > But I'm glad to see these guys doing so well, and if US public radio airplay and touring gave them a boost to broader recognition that enables them to keep making and recording exquisitely original music, I can't find a downside there.< Ditto. (God, I can't believe I wrote that word.) - --tc tcain1@webmart.net "The only reason I know the name of that band is so that I don't accidentally buy any of their records." -- Elvis Costello, on Styx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:56:35 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: Review: Bloominton & NKU (very long) On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:51:04 GMT, tmbgirl@juno.com wrote: >>Spidey: (off-mike with ALL of them running around in the audience. > >hehee... off-mike (can you see that image?) or off-mic? That's what happens when you write a review at 2am :) They actually performed the song off-Mike and off-mic :) > >>I Will Hold On: (Gorgeous) > >ooh ooh... will ya post the lyrics to this one! > I think someone already did. I'd hate to tick Jian off anymore by reposting the lyrics...maybe someone else will brave the "Wrath of Ji" :) - -- Trace gemini@p3.net "They're like Robin Williams singing, times 4." -Anonymous comment about Fruvous overheard in the 8th & Market subway station in Philadelphia following the 1998 Singer/Songwriter Festival. ~~I am Fruhead. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.~~ ------------------------------ Date: 20 Oct 1998 19:12:33 -0700 From: Moz (Chris Moesel) Subject: Heh. Anyone Got Floor? Okay Folks, Yeah, yeah... I know what you're saying. "You never call, you never write-- we've been worried sick about you!" And if that's not what you're actually saying, then... well, just don't tell me anyway... At any rate... So, yeah, I'm going to Northhampton-- and I thought I'd be making my accomodations, but it looks like I no longer am. So... Anyone still got some room for a nice guy like myself? I'm easy to take care of, potty-trained, and every once in a while, I say something funny. Any takers? If you need any references, email me and I'll come up with some. =) There's a few people out there who don't think I'm too bad a character. Alrighto. Hook me up. No, but really-- I'd appreciate it if anyone can help me out. Thanx a bunch, and keep on fru-rockin'! Yours, Moz/Chris **************************CHRIS*****MOZ*****MOESEL**************************** * I have one longing only: to grasp what is hidden behind appearances, to * * ferret out that mystery which brings me to birth and then kills me, to * * discover if, behind the visible and unceasing stream of the world, an * * invisible and immutable presence is hiding. -Nikos Kazantzakis * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:58:53 GMT From: hugrod@home.com (Hugo Rodrigues) Subject: Re: The Gospel According to Frvous In article , hugrod@home.com (Hugo Rodrigues) wrote: I'm on crack. This paragraph should read "Canadians gave up on Fruvous so they turned to the...." >I'd like to see one happy Fruhead group as well, but when people start telling >me "Canadians gave up on Fruvous and turned to the US, where they found >success," I have to step in and remind some people that the US perspective >isn't necessarily the best one. (reading too many posts today..) "If one man equals one vote, then one vote costs a six-pack of beer and a snack-pack of chicken." - -- This Hour has 22 minutes, CBC-TV *MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO* Hugo Rodrigues Hugs on the Undernet Journalism Student hugrod@home.com http://members.home.net/hugrod/ Forever Fruvous!!! *MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:40:38 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: I will hold on On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:39:14 GMT, nafio@my-dejanews.com wrote: > Chad Schrock wrote: >> hKatherine@ehmail.com wrote: >> > gemini@p3.net (Trace) wrote: >> > Uh-oh. I just realised something. Jian has figured out a way >> > to post to the newsgroup without really posting! Argh! >> >> How do we know it was really Jian? People fake other people's >> identitiy all the time on the Internet. It could be anyone! >> >> /starting the long awaited fight of "was that *really* jian?" > >I was actually waiting for the "was Jian or wasn't Jian kidding" thread. > I'll clarify. First, Jian didn't post anything; I did, so the blame is all mine :) Second, he seemed serious about it. He was emoting quite convincingly about the lyrics and I saw no reason to disbelieve him. Unless he has an evil twin running around, it was definitely Jian :) - -- Trace gemini@p3.net "They're like Robin Williams singing, times 4." -Anonymous comment about Fruvous overheard in the 8th & Market subway station in Philadelphia following the 1998 Singer/Songwriter Festival. ~~I am Fruhead. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:41:24 GMT From: hugrod@home.com (Hugo Rodrigues) Subject: Re: The Gospel According to Frvous In article <362CBB70.BA83927B@wwnet.com>, "A.J. LoCicero" wrote: >> I have my own ideas as to why certain decisions were made, but I won't post >> them here. > >So you will just hint at them and let us guess? Why is that? If you want to > discuss >your ideas about Fruvous, then discuss them. Either we'll all agree with you, > or >some of us will get all huffy, and jump down your throat. That IS what a > newsgroup >is for isn't it? :) I don't discuss them here because the last time we entred into this quagmire, it resulted in a few good friends of mine leaving the NG and IRC, because their PoV's were not agreeable to the largely US contingent of new fans. I'd like to see one happy Fruhead group as well, but when people start telling me "Canadians gave up on Fruvous and turned to the US, where they found success," I have to step in and remind some people that the US perspective isn't necessarily the best one. ps. there are many Canadian artists who have done well for themselves without entering the US market. "If one man equals one vote, then one vote costs a six-pack of beer and a snack-pack of chicken." - -- This Hour has 22 minutes, CBC-TV *MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO* Hugo Rodrigues Hugs on the Undernet Journalism Student hugrod@home.com http://members.home.net/hugrod/ Forever Fruvous!!! *MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO*MOO* ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #833 ********************************************