From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #829 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, October 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 829 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Strange ILMB moment [nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Ni] Re: this could get interesting [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: This could get interesting... [nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tm] Boss = Brazil? (was Re: Strange ILMB moment) [sirilyan@my-dejanews.com] Re: the Gospel according to Fruvous [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: This could get interesting... [Marie.Claude@canada.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:41:56 GMT From: nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: Strange ILMB moment On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:40:38 -0500, the sky opened up and Marty Blase spake thusly: >Do they have any good cha-cha tunes in their repetoire? Waltz?? Bed And Breakfast? Ok, it'd be a fast waltz, but still. - --nicole the dancin' queen - -- "The three great virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, and hubris."--Larry Wall (hi, Joe!) Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is modified to escape the spammers... sorry for the inconvenience. spam trap: postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost root@localhost ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:47:52 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: this could get interesting shawnhark@aol.com wrote: >How do you know.... > 5) When you start driving hundreds/thousands of miles with people you've only >met online. And hosting them at your mother-in-law's house. :) > 7) When you plan vacations around Fruvous shows. Hey, I'm sure Toronto's just dandy in February. Who needs the Caribbean? (Hey, there's an idea... get the guys to play the islands so we can have a winter break :) > 12) When you actually spend time learning how to ger the umlaut character typed >from your keyboard. Yeah, I'm working on this one. I know how to print the French characters, but not how to put anything non-anglo online. >16) When you start refering to "converting" people into fans, like its some >kind of religion. Whaddaya mean, "like"? I call it the Church of Fruvous. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:38:27 GMT From: nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: This could get interesting... On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:49:07 -0500, the sky opened up and Josh Drury spake thusly: >Say, how DO you get the "u" with the umlaut? >I know, "lazy liberals, always lookin' fer a handout!"... Just tell me >the damn code. Alt-129. - --nicole twn who is *so* pathetic that she set her text editor to automatically correct "Fruvous" to "Früvous"... maybe that's another sign of addiction... - -- "The three great virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, and hubris."--Larry Wall (hi, Joe!) Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is modified to escape the spammers... sorry for the inconvenience. spam trap: postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost root@localhost ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:58:35 GMT From: sirilyan@my-dejanews.com Subject: Boss = Brazil? (was Re: Strange ILMB moment) In article <19981020105534.14168.00002088@ng89.aol.com>, samoq@aol.com (Samoq) wrote: > I guess my questions are, does anyone have any idea what the heck I am > talking about? Was ILMB inspired by some old rhumba song? Am I nuts? Yes, it was - the song's called "Brazil". And this gives me a perfect opportunity to point out that just as Pink Floyd has _The Wizard of Oz_, Moxy Fruvous has _Brazil_ (Terry Gilliam's brilliant dystopian science fiction movie). 1. "I Love My Boss" is a song about dysfunctional relationships in the workplace. _Brazil_ is about dysfunctional workplaces and how they impact relationships. 2. "Boss" uses the tune from the song "Brazil", which is featured heavily in the film. 3. (The coolest one of all.) Watch the movie _Brazil_. While Sam Lowry (our hero) and his dream girl Jill are being chased by the police, Sam detaches the prefab house their vehicle is carrying. The house is hit by a police car and bursts into flames. Looking back at the wreckage, Sam quotes ... and I am not making this up ... "Jockey Full of Bourbon". All of the above, said Jian, is a complete coincidence. Except #2, which he verified. (Credit for this conspiracy theory must go to Michael Kopp, a friend of mine in Chicago who was the first to notice the Boss/Brazil connection.) > Should > I continue to watch the Lawrence Welk show, hoping to hear a cha-cha King Of > Spain, or a waltz Michigan Militia? No, but that's just on general principles. Though I would pay good money to hear Lawrence Welk saying "Cross the line and you're electrocuted." - -D. - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:03:25 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: the Gospel according to Fruvous "wild" bill wrote: > Please, if you don't want to post 'em, send them to me, I love a good >conspiracy plot. :-) >Here are some of my reasons: >1. bargainville did great, wood didn't; people in US didn't at least appear >as fickle. 2. US population is 10 x the size of Canada's (roughly, last time i> checked), if you want your songs to appeal to a larger audience you tour >there. plus in the distance travelled to go from thunderbay to minnesota >(*wink*) you can probably reach 10x more people in the US than you do in >Canada (when you're touring I would imagine that its nice to have stops, >especially ones that pay). 3. the US market is 25 x the size of Canada's, its >a good idea financially to at least pay attention to that fact, especially if >you like being a singer and like eating. >well, I'd post more, but I should be working... plus I am sure I've pissed >enough people off for one day. Well, bill, you didn't piss me off. Must say I agree wholeheartedly. It seems that, in general, in order to be considered a real success in Canada an act must build up some degree of popularity/success in the States as well -- but then, while there is a certain pride that Canadian art has crossed the border, there are also those who sneer that the act has "sold out" by recognizing the obvious: there are more fans, and thus more potential gigs/ticket-buyers/viewers/exposure south of the border (see: Michael J. Fox, Peter Jennings, the Band, Dave Thomas, Alanis Morrissette, Sarah McLachlan......) The issue is, do fans really want what's best for the band? Because it's not a contest between 2 countries. It's not an act of high treason for Canadians to venture to the States, even to earn money there. It's not l like playing Sun City before apartheid ended. It's just a matter of a band searching for success, working with demographics, and playing either where there are people who have shown support in the past (nurturing the fan base) or where there is a sufficient potential audience of people who are likely to enjoy their act -- which is why Fruvous has been playing California, Arkansas, Nashville. It's important to note that on this tour they also played Ottawa, Winnipeg, Calgary, Vancouver and Toronto. It's not like they've forsaken the homeland. They've just grown -- and part of growing is expanding boundaries. And yes, that might mean that they might be playing someone's favorite corner bar a little less often, because their schedule is tighter. They might no longer qualify as a favorite undiscovered band, because they're not quite so unknown anymore. They might need to be reclassified in your mind as up-and-coming, or alternative, or ... your words here, anyone. But if some people feel left behind because or that, because they're now playing to more crowds of a thousand or more and to fewer passerby on street corners, it's important to recognize that since the indie tape they have evolved considerably as artists and performers. They obviously enjoy doing small gigs; the intimate energy that permeates a room when there are about a hundred people present is far greater than it is at larger shows. They are obviously comfortable at that level, and I don't expect to see them playing an arena anytime soon. But whether they busk or play a small bar or a folk festival or a stadium is their decision, based on factors only they can know and judge, and anyone not willing to grant them that basic right of self-determination and growth must be more concerned with his own ego and convenience than with the guys' success and happiness. I love Canada from its Fruhead to its toes. But I'm glad to see these guys doing so well, and if US public radio airplay and touring gave them a boost to broader recognition that enables them to keep making and recording exquisitely original music, I can't find a downside there. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:59:19 GMT From: Marie.Claude@canada.com Subject: Re: This could get interesting... > Say, how DO you get the "u" with the umlaut? > I know, "lazy liberals, always lookin' fer a handout!"... Just tell me > the damn code. ALT 129 works for me, although *I* have the umlaut (tréma en français) right there on my keyboard, over the cédille ("¸")! ;) I make very odd typos with those... Of course having to work with accents means having to readjust to the location of said accents on every keyboard. A personal pet peeve of mine. - -- Marie-Claude "I'm beside myself. I'm over there." - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #829 ********************************************