From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #788 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, October 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 788 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Where is Clinton? [wbsmiles@aol.com (Wbsmiles)] Welcome West Coast fans to big-east Fru lovin'! ["Aye, who's asking whom?] Re: Where is Clinton? ["Aye, who's asking whom?" ] Re: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio ["Bell-occhio" ] Re: Posting lyrics of unfinished songs [hKatherine@ehmail.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Oct 1998 05:31:03 GMT From: wbsmiles@aol.com (Wbsmiles) Subject: Re: Where is Clinton? Yikes!!! With all these directions I'm just as confused as when I asked the question in the first place , ;o). Now I just have to piece 'em all together and sit down with my handy dandy atlas, but if I call lost, will someone come get me? :o) Smiles, Wendy :o) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:29:06 GMT From: "Aye, who's asking whom?" Subject: Welcome West Coast fans to big-east Fru lovin'! I just want to say that it's neat to see posts from the left coast, and I hope the Lads will get to beef up their corruption of Pacific minds in future tours. Mind you, I'm in upstate New York and I think a license plate from Indiana is exotic and western. Enjoy our rattles and stabs from the older, more crippled coast and we hope you'll all come up for some fresh cider and poutine sometime. Four musicians, one love, eh? - --wander, Dante ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:24:06 GMT From: "Aye, who's asking whom?" Subject: Re: Where is Clinton? >Ahh, I didn't know about the other Clinton 100 miles away. So, is the >town of Kirkland located in a township or county called Clinton? Neither. Let me explain: in New York State, villages are incorporated subsets of towns (or townships, if you will). While each town need not have any villages, there are no parts of New York State that lack a township or a city to incorporate the land. The town of Kirkland holds within it Clinton, Franklin Springs, and I think it may have some other chunk called Hecla. Counties hold the many towns and cities, with the exception of New York City (which holds five counties, each of which is a borough. However, if you ask I can tell you about the exception) The Clinton we will be seeing Fruvous within is in Oneida County, as is Utica (one of two county seats) and that casino off exit 33. The city of Oneida is in Madison County, but the village of Oneida Castle is in Oneida County. Clinton County is at the top of the state and bordered by Lake Champlain, its county seat being Plattsburgh. It's this kind of logic that keeps the Empire State on top. >Well, yeah, but Sangertown's not exactly downtown Utica, either. It's >technically in New Hartford, and it's the other edge of New Hartford New Hartford has no edge. It's the suburbs: they can't swing, man... >from Utica, if I remember correctly. Not that New Hartford really has >an existence of its own - everyone who lives there says they live in >Utica, anyway :) Still, Clinton seems distant/distinct enough that, >given Utica's small size, I don't think I'd call it a suburb. Utica HAS suburbs, okay? Utica is a city, and suburbs are the towns around a city holding residents that work in that city or in other towns near the city. So what if New Hartford's population is now close to Utica's, and Utica's shrinks 1000 a year (it was 100k in 1960, now it's closer to 65k). Worcester has suburbs, and even Pittsfield has suburbs. Size, the poorly hung city proclaims, has nothing to do with it. >You also have the brewery that makes my favorite root beer: Saranac. >And the Boiler Run foot race (is that what it's called?) Boilermaker, like the drink. When I was a kid, brewery tours were free. >No problem, take Genesee Street instead :-) While Genesee Street is pretty, is has the most traffic light of any length of city street in the electrified part of the world. None of these lights are co-ordinated, so you get to know each one quite well. It takes 15 minutes to get to Utica National (the 5 -12 - 12B split) by Genesee Street, and six by the Arterial. By the way, for those of you coming from Philly, I'd take 476 until it becomes that Penn Pike N.E. Extension, then I-81 north past Binghamton. Get off exit 6 and turn right (follow signs for Norwich) onto route 12 north. Take that past Norwich into Sherburne, then 12B north into Clinton. (Right before Clinton, a sign for 233 north appears with a sign for Hamilton College. Hint hint.) >Move to Boston ;-) I debated moving to Boston once, but your rents are HIGH and while you have a beautiful mass-transit system, it's only useful if you're going downtown. - --Can't get there from here, Dante ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:27:36 -0400 From: "Bell-occhio" Subject: Re: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio > >There's an absolutely wonderful diner in Zanesville called Juanita's. >Or at least there was five years ago...If I were Ohio I would use her to >lure tourists. > It's still there. There were two of them, but one closed down a few years ago I believe. But then there's really little else to do there unless you like glassware or driving across bridges. Oh, and they have those weird trashcans, but I see little tourist value in that. ;) 20 minutes from Zanesville, Lace º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤º ¤ nthrbns at netpluscom.com ¤ ICQ 218859 ¤ http://i.am/papillonline ¤ "so I went and had my coffee alone but I don't want to sulk cause that's so alternative and alternative is so mainstream"-JBE º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤º ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:30:58 -0400 From: "Bell-occhio" Subject: Re: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio (was Jordans) >Toledo was just named that way to fool people into thinking they're in Indiana. > Just because we don't want to claim it. As a friend of mine put it "Toledo is... " ;) Why am I compelled to dis Ohio tonight? I'm usually the first to defend it... It's actually a very nice place, with several great cities, including Columbus, where I hope to see some of you Thursday. :) (I knew I could work some frucontent into this!) "long before the screen door slammed, she was out of Xenia", Lace º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤º ¤ nthrbns at netpluscom.com ¤ ICQ 218859 ¤ http://i.am/papillonline ¤ "so I went and had my coffee alone but I don't want to sulk cause that's so alternative and alternative is so mainstream"-JBE º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤ºº¤º¤º ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:27:58 GMT From: Loren Becker Subject: Re: Whoa! Too much excitement! Chad Schrock wrote: > I still haven't gotten my Quill yet. :( It's because I live > close to Washington and they are punishing us because of the > "Story That Just Will Not Die" isn't it? I'm just an innocent > civilian caught in the Crossfire. (But not the one on CNN.) nope. sorry, chad. i had already read my quill by the first post to the ng about it and i live _in_ washington. i think it's just that nobody is really sure you exist so... > Would a private concert by you-know-who make much of a > difference? :) is that an offer you ar authorized to make? > Yup. It's raining. :) not very much but it was a nice rain. more spring than fall though. very strange things these seasons. loren. wishing she was in new england for a real fall. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:58:51 GMT From: hKatherine@ehmail.com Subject: Re: Posting lyrics of unfinished songs In article <3623E610.DC1B4131@wwnet.com>, "A.J. LoCicero" wrote: > That is my opinion. What's yours? Glad you asked :) If anyone remembers, I was the girl who actually said that she was reluctant to post lyrics. And this is exactly the reason why I said that: I'm uncomfortable with making public the lyrics of unfinished songs. Of course they're unfinished songs - not that any songs will ever be "finished" songs, because they do after all keep changing, even after years. That's one of the ways Fruvous manages to keep our interest, right? So let's just stop right there and call those older songs "established" songs, and the newer ones "unestablished". Of course the band needs to play them to a live audience before they're absolutely 100 % sure of the final direction the song will take. That's because they (and especially Fruvous, in this case) tend to play off the audience. They sort of need to test new songs to find out what gets our attention, probably mostly because after you've worked on the same song for a substantial amount of time, you start doubting whether it's really any good at all. Remember Bole? Bole came out of a need to try new songs. Just because they don't rename the band, don't think Fruvous is feeling any less tentative when it comes to fresh material. There. That must've been a posting record for me :) Still loking for other opinions out there... hKath - -- "I'll have a smile... to go." -- Topon Das - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #788 ********************************************