From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #718 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, October 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 718 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: In between shows [ceelove@ibm.net (Colleen Campbell)] Re: It was bound to happen: IH sold out for the 31st [starfox@Bacon.Eggs.] Re: Hmmm. [nasust@aol.com (NasusT)] Re: Parental advisory? [june529@aol.com (June529)] Re: One song for NoHo? [nasust@aol.com (NasusT)] Re: arrrrrgh... ["Arbie Fru" ] Re: We're lucky fans (was D-Town review) [june529@aol.com (June529)] Re: One song for NoHo? ["Aye, who's asking whom?" 4) I too am staying at the Motel 6. Along with Beth/Wrenn, Dave/Donovan, and >Jeff/Karmaghia. Ooh! Dibs on time with Jeff and Dave. :) >5) I believe several people will be bringing instruments, and I love a good >sing-a-long. I won't be getting in until late Fri, and the party os after the >show Sat. Jam Session? Sat afternoon before the show? Fri after the show? Kickin'! though I don't play anything. . .just generally massage artists who impress me. *smile* I just had a day in NoHo and enjoyed myself very much (including Adam Hartfield's wonderful hospitality, yay!). I recommend the Chocolate Emporium for "well, so much for the diet" extravagancies, I've heard lots of good stuff about Words & Pictures, there are oodles of used book & music stores around and good restaurants, and, er, okay, I'm biased towards the hot tubs, East Heaven. Don't know how many of you would be up for such a thing, but I found it lovely. cee ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 1998 23:31:30 GMT From: starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Starfox) Subject: Re: It was bound to happen: IH sold out for the 31st Colleen Campbell wrote: : though-- WOOHOO! Congrats to Fruvous, selling out the Iron Horse a : month in advance! I don't know 'bout the rest of y'all, but I think : that really says something. *smile* What's the capacity of the Iron Horse? Starfox "Trying to judge what size place they could play here. ;)" - -- Starfox starfox (at) nationwide dot net "Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end" - Semisonic "Closing Time" ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 1998 23:59:22 GMT From: nasust@aol.com (NasusT) Subject: Re: Hmmm. Wow. Something technical that I know a bit about. IF old quills are made into PDF files, they can be printed out using a program called Adobe Acrobat Reader. Similar to Real Audio (because they'll let you download the technology for free), the home site is www.adobe.com. Then, once you have it installed, you can print out all sorts of nifty things, IRS Tax forms, Revenue Canada forms and maybe even a quill or two! Susan "I'm building the world I want to live in." - Kevin Brunkhorst ------------------------------ Date: 3 Oct 1998 23:57:24 GMT From: june529@aol.com (June529) Subject: Re: Parental advisory? >Okay, in a trip to my friendly neighborhood mall, I happened to stop in the >music store to check out the CDs. Quite naturally, I stopped by to take a >peek at Live Noise, as I've been trying to figure out just how many copies >I can get for Christmas presents for folks ;-) >Anybody else noticed the parental advisory sticker? Should I suggest that everyone come do their Fruvous Christmas shopping at the Wilmington Show. There is no sales tax in Delaware and the money goes right to the guys. What a coincidence, I also just noticed the sticker for the first time today at my local mall in Delaware. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention . When we got our copy, I think we just ripped the wrapper off so fast in order to listen to it, we never even saw it. JuneG ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 1998 00:07:25 GMT From: nasust@aol.com (NasusT) Subject: Re: One song for NoHo? I'm with you on the Down From Above vote, AJ. Been a year now. (Gee, I bet you're not surprised by that one, Zard. Remember, I'll trade you Allison!) Susan "I'm building the world I want to live in." - Kevin Brunkhorst ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 1998 00:23:55 GMT From: "Arbie Fru" Subject: Re: arrrrrgh... No fear Trez there will be show reviews for those shows. Doug (siriliyan) Sheppard for one will be at those shows. - -- Arbie "Brassman" on irc Reply address altered to discourage spammers, sorry for the inconvenience. arbie_fru@bc.sympatico.ca - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 1998 00:29:59 GMT From: june529@aol.com (June529) Subject: Re: We're lucky fans (was D-Town review) >We Fru-fans truly get special treatment from the band.... >Lately though I've been worrying that as the fan >base grows it's going to get harder and harder for Fruvous to come out after >every show and greet each of us... >...realize that these guys work really hard and that we're the beneficiaries. Doug, that was a great post. I agree with you completely. What a bonus that we have the opportunity to chat with such really nice people after a show. I don't know how the lads manage it night after night. And the day will probably come when it will be impossible for them to do that. But for now, I hope they realize how their efforts are appreciated. And if some night, one or two of them fail to appear, I hope all of the frufans will try to as generous of spirit to them as they all try to be with us. Thanks guys... June G ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 00:48:03 GMT From: "Aye, who's asking whom?" Subject: Re: One song for NoHo? Gulf War Song. I had other songs on my list, like "Nuits de Reve" and "Ash Hash", but I'm proud to say I've heard them live and... ...let's just say that if you get to see Ash Hash live, watch Murray. Just... just watch. Also, I got to hear "Alison" live, and I just about wept. - --sorry ma, forgot to take out the trash, Dante ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 00:43:32 GMT From: "Aye, who's asking whom?" Subject: Re: Parental advisory? I wager the band's promoters may be behind the move, if ever so subtly. That sticker gets put on albums to sell them more than to deter sales (the band looks risque, mature, and otherwise likely to toss the televisions out of the hotel rooms on tour). It's also a sign of success: they've had enough sales of the album that someone heard the vulgarities or the word 'hookah' and wrote a letter. Remember the summer of 1992, when the GOP ticket decided to get incensed about the song "Cop Killer"? Heck, it took an entire year for the first Body Count album (upon which the song was the last track, behind "KKK Bitch" and "Evil Dick") to incur enough ire to get yanked from the stores. Until that moment, the nightly news would not be complete without a sample from Cop Killer. It came to the point where Soundgarden covered the tune during Lollapalooza '92 and you could tell who knew the full set of lyrics and who knew the news-edit by crowd reactions. Mind you, if Senator D'Amato tried to make an issue of "these heathens mocking the fine characters of Sesame Street, a show made in my district", we'd laugh. Note that the sticker doesn't actually suit the cause. "Parental Advisory -- Explicit Lyrics" states the lyrics are an album's cause for alarm. In LN's case, the banter between lyrics is the concern and no one wrote down things for the band to swear during these moments. Perhaps a separate warning is in order: "Hey, it's live. Peoople SWEAR on stage. Get the idea?" "I want you to be the guy from the R movie, the guy you're not so sure about..." --from "Swingers" - --defrosted the freezer and proud of it, Dante ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 00:43:31 GMT From: "Aye, who's asking whom?" Subject: Re: We're lucky fans (was D-Town review) The first time I saw Fruvous live (Nov. 97), I was left in some shock. I was used to bands that disappear after the show (gotta keep up the drinking habit, I suppose many bands argue). Since I got my ticket for free, I brought a gift of pastries for the band, and I was hono(u)red that Jian came out and thanked me. I had been listening to YWGTTM for a year, using it for demonstration purposes when I was selling audio equipment at Sears, and had only owned Bargainville for a month. I assumed any band that has that level of studio production and a contract with Warner would be snooty -- if imps signed to indie labels were cold (Yo La Tengo, for example), the bigger guys must freeze the mercury. Since then, they've been acting colder on average. However, I can't tell if it's the "intense stateside success" as it's not like they ever get airplay in the typical pop-radio sense. They seem to be victims of the promoter's attitudes: if the club owner is a fan, they feel pleased to play under that roof. If the promoter is a major corporation and the schedule is tighter than a Tokyo subway at eight a.m., they feel like anyone working for an anal corporation feels and want to crawl into the bus and declare the work day over. "Longue journee..." One thing I've theorized is it may be gender-specific. Four gentlemen used to the road take one look at a guy like me and think "that's not a female, thus he won't put out, buh-bye!" Is that wrong? When I think about the money I've spent following the band, I say "yes"; when I realize I've got miniscule to say, I switch my answer. On the positive side, they still play small venues in many cities within driving distance of Toronto (Syracuse, for example) as they prefer the crowd reaction. They know we're ten times the fan most bands get, and that any eventual American "single with a bullet" and shot on MTV beating up Matt Pinfield will not come from the Warner Brothers' efforts. Canada dumped them on their chart-making asses upon their sophomore release, but only from that did the contagion spread to the U.S.. We gave them a home, and only now is Canada coming around again. We're lucky to have a cool band, and one that, unlike 95% of the bands in my record collection, is going strong. No one is a closet heroin addict, no one ego is really pushing against the cohesion, and no one has turned to a cult for guidance. However, the jury is still out on the eventual fate of Fruvous, as is true of any band with a quorum of founding members still alive. Think about The Flaming Lips: they had been around about a decade before they had a hit with "She Don't Use Jelly" and promptly evaporated again. The album they made after that, "Clouds Taste Metallic", was a fabulous romp and went missing in action because the band's moment was over. Unfair, but never uncommon: a little pessimism from the fan club... - --"boy, you still got sh*t for brains", Dante ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #718 ********************************************