From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #396 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, September 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 396 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Thoughts on TMBG's new live album vs. Moxy Fruvous' new live album [a] Re: cover tune wish list [zardsnod@aol.com (ZardSnod)] Re: Fw: F&F for C (was Re: FruCon II) [Richard Butterworth ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2 Sep 1998 04:09:57 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.com (ALeigh992) Subject: Re: Thoughts on TMBG's new live album vs. Moxy Fruvous' new live album :::just amused at how this exact same thread with the exact same posts is going on in the TMBG ng::: ...guess we know which two groups share their online fan base, huh? :-) Aleigh Currently resides at: http://i.am/not_your_broom "We like the music, but the music's not too fond of us" John Flansbugh 8-28-98 ------------------------------ Date: 2 Sep 1998 04:26:35 GMT From: zardsnod@aol.com (ZardSnod) Subject: Re: cover tune wish list Novac wrote: > >I think they should do Queen's best song ever: Bicycle Race. 'Nough said. Hear, hear!! That was the first thing that popped into my head. I'd like it to be medlied (a word?) with Fat Bottomed Girls (if it's not already, in the original - can't remember). :-) - -Zard "www.washme.com" - seen on the back window of a filthy station wagon, heading to Owen Sound, ON ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 11:07:36 +0100 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: Fw: F&F for C (was Re: FruCon II) ZardSnod wrote: > 3) that some people are upset at being put in that position > of having to choose. Hmmm, isn't this the whole point of bands being political? If all people who listen to Fruvous shared their politics then there'd be no point in Fruvous being political -- they'd just be preaching to the converted. On the other hand if they did nothing but force their politics down the listeners' throats then they'd rapidly lose popularity and I for one wouldn't be that interested in them, even if they forced politics I agree with down my throat. I stear clear of evangelical religion (which I broadly don't agree with) with just as much vigour as I stear clear of dogmatic Marxists (which I broadly do agree with). The point of bands being political is that they raise awareness of issues and if they're any good they'll leave it to the listener to decide (`Show, don't tell', to join the Rush quotes crowd). If you're upset at having to decide whether you're pro-choice or life (or however people in the abortion debate like to style themselves and each other) then you'll just have to make your mind up and Fruvous can relax in the smug knowledge that they've raised your awareness. Just to revel in a bit of gratuitous me-tooness when Zard says the band doesn't owe the fans anything[1] I'd like to bang my shoes on the table and agree wholeheartedly. [1] Apart from another British tour, that, of course, is obligatory... Pip pip Richard - ------------------------------------------ - -- Chandler, just go and ask her out. - -- No. - -- What's the worst thing that can happen? - -- I might die. - ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 2 Sep 1998 11:37:32 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: fruvous on WXPN i read in a thread that the singer-songwriter weekend will be aired this thursday or friday... I'm going to tape it, so I would like to know how long Moxy's set was... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:16:32 -0400 From: Trevor White Subject: Re: Where have all the Fruheads gone? On 2 Sep 1998, Wbsmiles wrote: > Trevor White wrote: > >Hope everyone had a pleasant summer and all that...but I won't waste space > >on Usenet talking to a black hole. Let's see some more interest, > >people... > >Trevor (the Diet Dew Fru from Towson U) > > > > Quite the contrary Trevor, it's been crazy in here! I go away for the weekend > and com back with over 200 messages, I still haven't caught up yet! > > Smiles, > > Wendy :o) Thank God! Guess my Usenet server quit on me for a bit...I'm logged in off of Pine (email client) from Towson U (Go Tigers!) and when I saw the NG was empty, I panicked. Sorry for the panic attack! Also, just a point of order: if someone can't access Usenet, what good is a post to the same NG s/he can't access for whatever reason? I don't know what Nettiquete dictates in this situation, but email helps (I did get a couple of messages trying to allay my sudden jitters...thanks to all who wrote, you know who you are.) Peace and a cheaper apartment lease, Trevor "Be brave, be true, stand. All the rest is darkness."-Stephen King "Now the villain is chillin', so you make a stand, Back to the wall, put your sword in your hand..."-Partners in Kryme "The strongest man in the world is he who stands most alone."-Henrik Ibsen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:33:09 -0400 From: Trevor White Subject: Re: Fw: F&F for C (was Re: FruCon II) A question came up in an earlier post (Zard's, and was it ever long) about politics and Fruheadedness. Can dissenters from the FruLogic be Fruheads? Yes. I'm one of 'em. Some of you may have seen my reaction to "Kick in the Ass" last year on this NG (God knows nobody responded to it, at least, that my server picked up). My point with that one was, although I disagree with the message of the song, I admire it from a musical standpoint. And that goes double for "Your New Boyfriend." Frankly, that one offends me, since I am a Republican veteran--no flag on my arm, though. But, I still listen to that song and sometimes try to re-write it from a "right-wing" standpoint ("You said that you would never end up with a Moxy Fruvous send up", etc.) just for the heck of it. Do I like the song musically, if not politically? Yes. "Greatest Man in America"? Hey, I listen to Rush myself (when my class schedule permits) and I still get a kick out of that song (and even play it for people I know will get a chuckle from it.) What I'm trying to say is, yeah, I'm a pretty conservative person--WAY right of Fruvous, and I still own three of their CDs and enjoy them immensely. (How "far right" am I? Not too far left of Jesse Helms, according to one survey--off to Rush's right in another.) So, the answer to the age-old question of "can dissenters still be Fruheads?", just from personal experience, is yes. End of sermon. Trevor "Be brave, be true, stand. All the rest is darkness."-Stephen King "Now the villain is chillin', so you make a stand, Back to the wall, put your sword in your hand..."-Partners in Kryme "The strongest man in the world is he who stands most alone."-Henrik Ibsen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 13:12:21 GMT From: hKatherine@ehmail.com Subject: Re: Fw: F&F for C (was Re: FruCon II) In article <1998090203370900.XAA09467@ladder01.news.aol.com>, zardsnod@aol.com (ZardSnod) wrote: > There are three main points here: 1) that F&FFC falls on FruCon weekend, and > people who don't agree with the politics may not attend the show, 2) that some > of those people may not support it financially, but will still try to attend > the show (ie: will sneak in, or somehow attend without giving money that will > go to the cause), 3) that some people are upset at being put in that position > of having to choose. I, for one, do know of someone who went to the first convention and then skipped the pro-choice fundraiser that same night. I think that shows great strength of character, and I am totally confident that any Fruhead whose personal politics make attending the show a sell-out will make that same decision. As for the people who would try to sneak in without paying, it's a matter of respect, as Zard said. Not just of the guys' views, but of the values of everyone else who will be at that show. But, they're not FORCING anyone to > attend, as a prerequisite for attending FruCon, or any of the other shows that > weekend. And there WILL be other shows that weekend, as opposed to last year's Frucon weekend. Everything seems a bit more organized and relaxed this year, and I'm sure we'll all have a good time. I trust everyone will make a decision they can live with. hKatherine, who's hoping she's said everything the way it appeared in her head and hasn't offended anyone in the process. - -- "Arlo, if you can't be great, be long." -- Arlo quoting Woody, OFF98 - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 09:23:13 -0400 From: Thomas Fazzio Subject: Republican Fans Wow, and to think I thought of myself as unique as a Republican who enjoys Früvous. But then again, I would have to say that I am open to any political idea that seems correct and just instead of sticking to party lines. I say this b/c sometimes I agree with some left-wing ideas, such as Früvous', even though most of what I believe agrees with the right-wingers. I LOVE "Greatest Man In America"! I can't wait to hear it live (hint, hint). It is a great song, and that is what I like about Früvous is that they write great songs. I would have to draw the line if they rythmed and rhymed a song about murder, as that would be morally wrong, but they don't. They sing songs to show thier talent, style and ideas. So what if they choose this idea, or that platform. Not everyone needs to have the same political thoughts, America was founded on that. But instead we should be willing to hear what others have to say, and in the case of Mr. Cheese possibly change our thoughts after trying out others. I am proud to be a die-hard Früvous fan, whether I'm right- or left-wing. The music is incredible, and the on and off stage antics are fun. I am always looking forward to another appearence or another album. Thank you all for being good fans, and thank you Moxy Früvous for rockin'! later, tom. Trevor White wrote: > Can dissenters from the FruLogic be Fruheads? > My point with that one was, although I disagree with the message of > the song, I admire it from a musical standpoint. And that goes double for > "Your New Boyfriend." ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #396 ********************************************