From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #393 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, September 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 393 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: cover tune wish list [nafio@my-dejanews.com] RE: cover tune wish list [hKatherine@ehmail.com] Re: Thoughts on TMBG's new live album vs. Moxy Fruvous' new live album [C] Re: Mike's ottawa review (sleep-deprived) [Chad Maloney , hKatherine@ehmail.com wrote: > In article , > DrX wrote: > > Any NKOTB song. :) > > > > She's my popsicle! Katherine you're scaring me. Only those of us who have (ahem) all the albums gathering dust somewhere in our rooms should know that one. In the theme but on the more talented side, I've always wanted to hear Mike throw a line from Quit Playing Games into one of the medleys. Or "I'll Never Break Your Heart" a cappella with a PROPER bassline. (The 'Boys have great vocal talent but Kevin doesn't know what to do with his voice half the time) Ok so if you didn't know that I'm a pop fan you do now. Laugh if you'd like, I'm no better at convincing people to give BSB an unbiased listen than I am at convincing them to listen to some obscure Canadian band with the weird name of Moxy Früvous. Fiona/Nafs - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 23:46:40 GMT From: hKatherine@ehmail.com Subject: RE: cover tune wish list Fiona wrote: > > She's my popsicle! > > Katherine you're scaring me. Only those of us who have (ahem) all the albums > gathering dust somewhere in our rooms should know that one. Hey, we were all young once... hKath - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 17:55:40 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Thoughts on TMBG's new live album vs. Moxy Fruvous' new live album Duct tape boy wrote: > > Chad Maloney wrote: > >I also very much liked something Jordan said. The crowd is a major > >part of a Fruvous show. Fruvous includes the crowd in the show and > >makes the audience feel important; that they have more of a role > >than just listening. And so, Fruvous's live album includes the crowd > >because it is an essential part of the live experience. > > > >This doesn't apply as much to the STD. The point of the disc wasn't to > >make you feel the vibe of a show, it was to show you how things > >sound live, or how they could sound live on a good night. > > I'm sorry, but to me, this argument is a load of poopy. are you suggesting > that the crowd is unimportant during the course of a They Might Be Giants > concert? I beg to differ. Nope. I never said that. If TMBG were out to make a live album that, when you listened to it, you got the energy and excitement of seeing them live on a good night, they would have done many many things differently. They would have included more crowd to get the feel of a live show. The CD would have come with some shredded money confetti and included the stick and some more of the special TMBG things that make the show special. Fruvous's live album sells the live experience. It shows you what a show is like so that you get the feel for it and want to go see them. Then, once you have opened up your mind enough and you see them live, you'll be wowed so much, you'll buy all the other discs and tell all your friends. TMBG's live album is not selling the live experience. It is saying "Here, listen to these tunes that we recorded while we were in concert. Enjoy them." I will also point out here that a lot of the gimmickry of the TMBG live show is visual. Turning out all the lights isn't effective on a CD. Having plastic doll heads on the end of long mic stands and dangling them over the crowd while making them sing isn't effective on a CD. Having the audience form a large conga line and party all over the place isn't effective on a CD. Watching Dan Hickey make faces while chiming in one note on a glockenspiel isn't that effective on a CD. > I still think that Severe Tire Damage should not be marketed as a live > album. That is what I'm saying... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 18:35:14 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Mike's ottawa review (sleep-deprived) fairest one wrote: > From the other side of the issue, I don't pay money to go see fruheads. I > pay money, rearrange my schedule, and make excited plans months in advance > to go see Moxy Fruvous. From my experience here in Minneapolis (please > note I've never been to OFF and am not commenting on it) some shows the > antics of the fruheads at the show is okay but not a draw, and some shows > it's a royal pain. > > just my about-to-be-flamed two cents. No flammage coming from me. I'll even go so far as agreeing with you. I've been to several shows (more than several actually, probably more than one hand can count and close to what two can count) where I've have to move off to the back because of other people at the show. No offense towards the other people at the show. I'm not saying people were acting poorly (though that has happened too). I'm just saying that my enjoyment of the show was jeopardized by the people I was standing near, so I went somewhere else to enjoy the show. What each person wants out of the show is different and sometimes one person's actions to get what they want out of the show interfere with others. That's bad, but for the most part unintentional. I'm not intentionally 6'6". I don't intentionally pick the shortest people to stand in front of. What I do do is pick the spot where I'm going to stand for the show when I get there and I stay in that very spot through the wait for the opener, through the opener, through Fru-setup so that when I get to the show and some short person starts elbowing his way to the front and ends up behind me and can't see, I can ignore him with good conscious knowing that I made it clear a long time ago I was blocking all the people who chose to stand behind me and it isn't my fault that he chose to stand there. But mostly what I agree on is that Fruheads aren't special people. Fruheads don't have to be on the ng. Fruheads don't have to read FDC religiously (though it is encourage and useful =). When there are 10 ng people at the same show, they aren't the only Fruheads there. Fruhead doesn't mean "people on the ng who travel insane distances to see 30 shows a year". I don't pay money to go see Fruheads either. I pay for my ticket to see the show. I pay to watch Jian hit the drum part hard on Jockey to get everyone excited. I pay to watch Murray try to play his bass while not losing his ring, only to give up halfway through and pocket the durned thing (the ring, not the bass). I pay to watch Dave tell bad jokes while his head steams under the lights. I pay to see the look in Mike's eyes right before he sings Doorstep or some of his solo tunes and to see the look in his eyes right before he humps the floor. I pay to hear songs that I've heard many times before, but each time they are a little different because the people performing the song are a little different and the place is a little different... And I pay for gas to get to the show to see my friends. Yeah, my friends may be Fruheads too, but I don't want to see them as this big conglomeration. I want to spend time with each one of them individually, and when that doesn't work out, it gets frustrating. I don't get lots of chances to see some of you people whom I care about a lot. [Man, those two paragraphs needed music behind them or something. This is turning in a big sappy post... *hee hee*] Okay, I wandered very off subject here. Sorry. What I was trying to do was to encourage people to not become "high-and-mighty" about being a net-Fruhead and exclude or annoy people because of it. I'm not saying people are doing that, just warning I guess. I've met many people that aren't net-Frus at shows and they were good people too and we all want the same few things from life. We want to enjoy the show and we want to spread the Fruvous word to everyone. Ramble ramble ramble.... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:56:47 -0400 From: Trevor White Subject: Where have all the Fruheads gone? I just opened this NG on September 1 at 12:53 EDT and found it empty! Is this a bug in my browser, or has the Frufamily called it a career? WHERE IS EVERYBODY? Hope everyone had a pleasant summer and all that...but I won't waste space on Usenet talking to a black hole. Let's see some more interest, people... Trevor (the Diet Dew Fru from Towson U) "Be brave, be true, stand. All the rest is darkness."-Stephen King "Now the villain is chillin', so you make a stand, Back to the wall, put your sword in your hand..."-Partners in Kryme "The strongest man in the world is he who stands most alone."-Henrik Ibsen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 20:54:25 -0700 From: Nate DeRose Subject: Re: Where have all the Fruheads gone? Server glitch, my friend.... The NG is as hectic as ever! :) nate Trevor White wrote: > > I just opened this NG on September 1 at 12:53 EDT and found it empty! Is > this a bug in my browser, or has the Frufamily called it a career? WHERE > IS EVERYBODY? > Hope everyone had a pleasant summer and all that...but I won't waste space > on Usenet talking to a black hole. Let's see some more interest, > people... > Trevor (the Diet Dew Fru from Towson U) > > "Be brave, be true, stand. All the rest is darkness."-Stephen King > "Now the villain is chillin', so you make a stand, > Back to the wall, put your sword in your hand..."-Partners in Kryme > "The strongest man in the world is he who stands most alone."-Henrik Ibsen ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #393 ********************************************