From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #238 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, August 7 1998 Volume 01 : Number 238 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: More on K of P [Chad Schrock ] Re: "chompin' off dave's head ..." [VJohnson ] Re: Jian's Cool! [Richard B ] Re: Canadian Customs [seqiro@mail2.nai.net (Paul D. Beasi)] Re: Hi Fellow Fruheads! [ourhamster@aol.com (OurHamster)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 20:46:32 -0400 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: More on K of P Lindsay Lion wrote: > > It is a radio station. 88.5 WXPN - the professionally run, > Univeristy of Pennsylvania radio station. They love the > boys and play them all the time. I, for one, have to thank Michela Maljoun, the morning host on WXPN[1] and the lad's appearence on her show in May, right around the time "Live Noise" was released. I had heard MBLABOA on "Live at the World Cafe, Volume 4"[2] and didn't think much about it. (I don't like some of the other people on that disc, so I rarely listen to it.) However, after hearing them on Michela's show that morning, I have been hooked ever since. I got a hold of "LN" right after that and have almost worn a hole in the CD from listening to it so much (and loaning it out to other people). I have the other 4 CDs now, too. [1] - Yes, you can hear WXPN in Annapolis (where I live). They are rebroadcast on 2 other frequencies: 88.1 (in Harrisburg, PA) and 90.5 (in Wharton, Md). 90.5 has a strong enough signal to be heard in Annapolis and a good hunk of Baltimore. I can't say enough good things about them. :) [2] - They are getting rid of the "last few copies" of Volume 4 and 5 right now. Call 800-565-WXPN for details. I think they are $20 each. You might also have to be a member of the station. Anyway, whoever answers the phone should be able to tell you. (Become a member, and get the CD you'll be supporting a totally awesome station that supports a totally awesome band. :) - -- chad@ radix.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 09:45:22 -0400 From: VJohnson Subject: Re: "chompin' off dave's head ..." I thought it was Mike Ford who said the "losers" line on Live Noise? Jian surly? That's not the impression I come away with after a show. Victorria Michael Kieras wrote: > Trace (gemini@p3.net) wrote: > : >Which Spice Girl do you suppose Jian would be? My > : >vote goes for Surly Spice. > : > : Can I take a moment to speak up for Jian? I don't think he's surly > at > : all. I've been to a total of 6 Frushows and I've seen Jian out with > : the fans after every one of them. He also seems to make an effort to > > : be friendly and remember fans as he was able to recall my name AND > : spell it correctly after 6 shows, which is more than I can say for > my > : relatives after 26 YEARS! What I think is that he makes a special > : point to come out after shows to interact with the fans, regardless > of > : whether or not he really *feels* like it on any given night. I have > to > : give him credit, so kudos to Jian for being so great about it all. > : Thank you! > > Yes, Jian can be and usually is very nice. > > He does present a dark side too, though. How about the comment > on MIT being "Geek Central" and its denizens "technocrats?" I > didn't get the impression that those were light-hearted remarks. > I haven't had a chance to listen to all of my Live Noise CD, but > I understand there's also a bit on there where again MIT people > are called losers? Maybe that's in jest. I seem to remember yet > another comment to that effect at the Quincy Market show on 7/31. > > I was (marginally) interested in Kasparov vs. Deep Blue, and I resent > any implication that therefore I am somehow not concerned with the > possible negative impacts of technology on society. Now, maybe that > wasn't the intent of the interview snippet that I read, but it sure > seemed that way. > > Don't get me wrong; I love the music and he and the boys put on > the most entertaining shows I've been to, and I will continue to > see them at every oportunity. Also, Jian has always, *always* > been pleasant and personable to say hello and chat with. However, > I hope you can understand why some people might be rubbed the > wrong way by technophobic generalizations. > > And I think "Surly Spice" *was* just a joke. > > -- Michael Kieras ------------------------------------------------- > michael@oit.umass.edu http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~michael/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 13:59:54 +0000 From: Richard B Subject: Re: Jian's Cool! Colleen Campbell wrote: > As to whether we can believe anything Jian says on stage, or off, > whether about his sex life or not--well, clearly, I'd take anything > any of the Lads said with a whole shaker of salt. Hmm, a small note of dissention here. I have been known to be rather camp in my time, darlings, and I usually do it to annoy people I know or believe to be homophobes. Maybe Jian is ambiguous *in order* to generate discussion about homosexuality. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I don't know, I'm just speculating. Like any sort of bigotry, once you get it out in the open and talk about it people realise its nonsense and then eventually it disapates. Being camp, or out and out gay forces people to deal with the issue. Although there's a lot to be said for minding your own business, its also quite satisfying to note that we can all talk about homosexuality without anyone going `Aiee, backs to the walls' or quoting obscure bits of Leviticus. Maybe Jian's ambiguity has in some way helped to bring about this state of affairs. (I must say the few times I've seen Moxy I hadn't noticed any explicit ambiguity, but maybe I wasn't looking.) It must be very bizarre for Jian if he is reading all this though. Or maybe he's just laughing his head off. > Why is it so important to us to be able to box up those our society > has fastened on as idols? I think the question is why do we need idols at all? I think the answer is because a `relationship' with an idol is easy. If you're in love with someone utterly unattainable then, by definition, they're not going to turn around and say `Pfui, you look ugly this morning' like real people have an annoying habit of saying (to me at least). If an idol is a safe `practice run' for a real relationship then that's fine, its when the idol is more important than the real people around you then you have problems. I could drivel on about people at Diana's funeral who said they were more upset about Diana dying than their parents, or Kurt Cobain etc etc. Oh and I'm not elevating myself in this one -- I recently met a cartoonist who I've worshipped for years I was a complete tongue tied bubbling buffoon about it. > ceecee, teetering atop a stack of soapboxes Good view from up here isn't it? Pip pip Richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 22:58:30 GMT From: seqiro@mail2.nai.net (Paul D. Beasi) Subject: Re: Canadian Customs On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:07:58 -0700, Caitlin wrote: > >Just a curiosity thing... how many people have actually been asked for >proof of ID when crossing the border in and out of Canada? I've never been >more than asked to verbally confirm my country of origin, and for a while >there I was crossing the border at Niagara on a pretty regular basis... >but then, customs officials in general seem to be too confused to actually >question me about anything :) I've have several different experiences here. On my first trip to Montréal, they asked for SS cards or birth certificates for everyone in the car, asked a couple of questions, and I was on my way. It took me twice as long to get back home through US customs (they didn't believe I would drive from CT to Montréal for one day). On all of my subsequent trips to Montréal, they refused the SS cards and asked only for a driver's license or other form of picture ID. When I went to Toronto, they refused the driver's license and wanted to see a SS card or birth certificate. We had brought them just in case, but I mentioned to the really nice attendant (seriously, she was very friendly) that when I went to Montréal it was just the opposite, to which she replied with a nasty remark about the Québecois. :) So I've always been asked for I.D., it just seems to depend on which way the wind is blowing. Of course now the questions they ask msut include something new, I guess: "Do you have any weapons, drugs, alcohol, or Beanie Babies?" :) Paul - ----------------------------------------- Paul Beasi seqiro@ct2.nai.net http://w3.nai.net/~seqiro The spotlight guys got Iggy! -TMBG, Lupos Heartbreak Hotel 10/25/97 - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1998 22:29:54 GMT From: ourhamster@aol.com (OurHamster) Subject: Re: Hi Fellow Fruheads! > the point is, this guy's >name is BJ, This one's so easy, even *I* won't jump for the reference... - --Novac PS: *sob* I couldn't help it! ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #238 ********************************************