From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #226 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, August 7 1998 Volume 01 : Number 226 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Frustock aka KoP show review (really long) [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Eli] Re: Jian's Cool! [ceelove@ibm.net (Colleen Campbell)] Re: Fruvous Jugglers [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] Re: Is Jian gay? [Chad Maloney ] Re: Did I miss this? [Chad Maloney ] Re: Q: Toronto [dalevy@aol.com (DALevy)] Re: Trina this weekend! [ourhamster@aol.com (OurHamster)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:06:57 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: Frustock aka KoP show review (really long) The Laika of the song was the first dog in space. She was also the first animal in space. Laika's flight on Sputnik II, 3 Nov 1957, was primarily to see if animals would stay alive in space, or in Soviet space capsules, and to see if telemetry (remote monitoring of stuff like heartrate) worked after launch. Laika was 'left in space', to burn up in the atmosphere. There was never any plan or controversy in 1957: she was going up and she was going to burn up and die on reentry (6 days later). Once launched, there was not really a controversy. There was no return cabability on Sputnik or any space vehicle. A picture, not for the squirmish, is available at http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/space_level2/laika.html As far as the song goes, Laika is held as one of the symbols ushering in the space age. (As are Sputnik, Gugairin, John Glenn and Neil Armstrong.) And, I was a KoP, and to my enormous satisfaction, they did, in fact, play Laika, another of those songs that I never thought I would hear live. Now, if I can only get to a show where they perform Down From Above, and if they ever play Love Set Fire, I'll feel complete. On Wed, 05 Aug 1998 20:29:37 GMT, dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin) wrote: >On 5 Aug 1998 19:24:45 GMT, "amy" wrote: > >>One question from a relatively new fru (nufru?) -- I was listening to >>"Laika" last night, and they definitely did not play it on Sunday at KofP >>-- so what _is_ that song about Rush Limbaugh? and have they recorded it? >>And what does "Laika" mean? Sorry if I'm being thick -- I know someone will >>straighten me out -- er, um, I mean, provide me with correct information! > >/me puts her Russian hat on > >Laika was the first dog in space. Unfortunately, my compatriots were >silly (I'd use a stronger word here, but I'm feeling patriotic) and, >as the song says, "left her there": they put her in a satellite and >left her there, saying it was too expensive (among other things) to go >retrieve it. This was in the late 50s (or was it 1960? I know it was >before Yuri Gagarin - the first man in space - went into space in >1961). > - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:15:50 GMT From: ceelove@ibm.net (Colleen Campbell) Subject: Re: Jian's Cool! On Thu, 06 Aug 1998 13:59:54 +0000, Richard B wrote: >Hmm, a small note of dissention here. I have been known to be rather camp in >my time, darlings, and I usually do it to annoy people I know or believe to >be homophobes. *grin* You'n'I are gonna get along juuuuuust fine, Richard. Dance with me in October? I'll even let you lead half the time. .. >Maybe Jian is ambiguous *in order* to generate discussion >about homosexuality. That's one of the things I meant to convey in all my ramblings, by saying that he doesn't want to be pegged as a heterosexual; I just never got around to saying it that concretely. No small surprise. ;P >I think the question is why do we need idols at all? I think the answer is >because a `relationship' with an idol is easy. I d'know. I'd say it also has something to do with the fact that we've removed from traditional "authority figures" the reverence and power that societies bestowed on them for millenia. We don't like being responsible for complete control over our own lives (all discussion about whether we have the right to decide what we listen to, etc, completely aside), so we hand it over to religious, governmental, and other hierarchical figures. We're pretty sour on traditional icons of power nowadays, so we fasten our attention on self-created idols. And if you don't think Fruvous can serve as idols for people, think again: I know of at least one person who told me of their literal worship for Fruvous. And I know myself that early on, years ago, I tended to ascribe any good characteristic to Fruvous, to be conversant with the image I had of them. I wanted them to be inhumanly perfect. Do they collectively and singly still rock my world? Yeah. But I do see them as fallible people, and if I were a public figure (which of course they are), I'd be freaked by people fastening such attention, admiration, and idolization on me. It constantly amazes me, how accessible Fruvous remains. Then again, maybe it's to keep people from being able to deify or commodify them or make them into "objects." But that's just me rambling. >Oh and I'm not >elevating myself in this one -- I recently met a cartoonist who I've >worshipped for years I was a complete tongue tied bubbling buffoon about it. *grin* Who was the cartoonist? My best friend has me so well indoctrinated into the comics industry that when I see that, I automatically think "Well, mine is Terry Moore" (of "Strangers In Paradise" fame, but then again, I'm prejudiced). ceecee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:22:10 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: Fruvous Jugglers I was at KoP, and saw the jugglers, but I wasn't one of them. However, I will come 'out of the closet' as it were, and proclaim, proudly, that I am, in fact, a juggler. Although you woudn't think of it just by a look at me, I have been doing balls, clubs and miscellany for about 10 years, now, and even worked professionally a number of years ago. (That's right, someone actually paid me to juggle. No busking for this guy!) I can't make it to PA on a regular basis, but if you are going to be there, we can certianly meet up at the next outdoor Fru show in the area. On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:21:21 GMT, fritzdkat@my-dejanews.com wrote: >Hi Gang! I've been to 4 or 5 Fruvous shows, been lovin' their music for a >couple of years. I've always found their stuff to be "just the thing" for >fun, bouncy juggling routines, but thought I was the only one. Then... we >went to the King of Prussia show 2 evenings ago (what a great outdoor venue!) >and over a dozen good jugglers showed up! We had a great time during the >warmup act and the set break showing off club passing, and some lunatic (I >mean that with the highest reverence possible) was there doing one of the >most impressive 5-ball routines I've ever seen, plus had the most >jaw-dropping club passing tricks I've seen to date. Whoever you are, you >rock. Come down to West Chester, PA some thursday evening and teach us some >of your stuff. Hope to see more jugglers at the next East Coast US show I >can make it to! Next time, more of you bring your own clubs! Thanks everyone >for making it the most fun Fruvous show yet! -Steve of the Turk's Head >Jugglers, Fruvous Fan Extraordinaire Home page: - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:53:07 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Is Jian gay? ZardSnod wrote: > > Melissa wrote: > >> >or not, I think he still eats dinner. (giggle) > > > >YES!...but i wonder what he likes... > > > > Oh, any old perch platter that's coming down the pike'll do! And don't tell him how many perch are on the perch platter, or he might feel bad about it *grin*. But it makes for good political song writing... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:58:39 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Did I miss this? Bodaceah wrote: > > That was what he said during the show and after the show when i spoke to him > as well. Should be sometime from mid to late August. The name of the program > is "All Things Considered". They have a web site so you can look and see if > it plays in your area. > > www.npr.org/programs/atc "This is Noah Addams and coming up on this half hour of All Things Considered, we have a story about Canadian Music Group Moxy Fruvous. Also, the continued quest of following the burrito. But first, the news." That is of course, assuming it's on a Friday and the burrito following man sent in his report for the week... *grin* - Chad PS Why am I so silly? Who knows. Who knows. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Aug 1998 16:09:10 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: Q: Toronto Your U.S. driver's license IS valid in Ontario. Doug Levy San Francisco DALevy@NOSPAM.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 1998 05:06:45 GMT From: ourhamster@aol.com (OurHamster) Subject: Re: Trina this weekend! >I just wanted to put in a plug for one of >mine and Colleen's favorite artists, Trina Hamlin. "Hamlin on Trial" :P My 2¢, - --Novac ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #226 ********************************************