From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #101 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, July 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 101 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Tour Dates n' Stuff [Chad Maloney ] Re: greetings from Alberta! [dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin)] Moxy tangent (was Re: Moxie tangent) [Ofer Inbar ] Re: greetings from Alberta! [dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926)] Re: greetings from Alberta! [christi218@aol.com (Christi218)] Re: foreign language lyrics [wahrend@my-dejanews.com] Re: Talents? (Was: Re: Fruvous Question...) [dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:46:18 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Tour Dates n' Stuff JustaBNLfan wrote: > Can someone please point me in the direction to where I can find tourdates > for the Toronto Area this summer? Hi Erin, General Toronto tour dates or Moxy Fruvous Toronto Tour Dates? Fruvous tour dates are bestest found at http://www.fruvous.com/tour98.html. They have a couple Toronto dates coming up soon at the beginning of August. As for other bands, you can check http://www.pollstar.com for more mainstream things. As for local stuff, maybe someone else can help you with that =) - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:38:59 GMT From: dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! On 14 Jul 1998 15:54:31 GMT, Starfox wrote: >Why should they impose what they think on a work (be it music, a piece >of literature, or movies) in the first place? Because they, the politicians, were elected by the people - by the *majority* of the voting population! - and thus have a responsibility to express those people's views. Since most of the populationis conservative... yadda, yadda. What makes you think that they *shouldn't* be able (=have the right to) express their views on a record? Is it discrimination when Your Local Record Store puts "Employees' Pick" labels on records they particularly like? How are the two different? >You seem to like playing both sides for the middle. On one hand you >say it's the majority of people who determine this kind of stuff, but >then turn around and apply what you think as an individual to said >rules. You asked in a previous post what makes Them think they can put these labels on the records. I said that the very structure of our government, and the very fact that the Majority is behind them, gives them a Right (no pun intended) and a Responsibility to put warning stickers on records if that's what the Majority wants. If the Majority wants to be told what they are to listen to, then the politicians will do it. The reason I was talking about me, as opposed to The Free Thinkers Of This Country, is that if the latter was the case, you'd laugh at me and dismiss my statements as too generalizing. The way I am arguing, I know for a fact that I say the truth when I talk about *my* views on stuff. >Let's keep it in perspective. We're talking about how said >policies and issues affect the general public. Not you or I, since we >are free thinking deviants. :) We disagree on one major issue: where the problem lies. You say that it's with the government. I say that it's with the people who are not thinking for themselves. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vika [VEE-kah] Zafrin Patron Saint of Caffeine dacilen at bu dot edu aka Coffee Fru "You and your hula dance of culinary delight..." -ceecee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:37:20 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Moxy tangent (was Re: Moxie tangent) In fact, I discovered a CD by Moxie at WBRS earlier this year sometime. But that's not what I'm writing about. We want moxy with a 'y'! It's just like Katy with a 'y' - the 'y' is important, and not to be replaced by an ie without totally changing the name :-) This weekend, I had a "moxy" sighting in Concord, NH. I was driving with my friend Esther, and we had to hurry to get her back to her dorm on time, so we couldn't stop and investigate. But there was a store with a big sign sticking out above the sidewalk, that said "Moxy". What is this store, I wonder? Anyone living near Concord, NH who wants to explore and report back? Email me and I can give you directions from the St. Paul's school to the site of the Moxy. (I don't know the area, so that's really the only reference point I can give directions from.) -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@cs.brandeis.edu -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- WBRS@brandeis.edu http://www.wbrs.org/ Will we have a balanced budget, as we had in days of yore? Quoth the Reagan, "Nevermore." ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jul 1998 17:59:07 GMT From: dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926) Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! >dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin) wrote: >True. So the question is: would you rather pass a law because >somebody out there may think it's okay to randomly punch people in the >face, or *not* have a law because some people aren't thinking? I vote >for the first: at least the guy has a (presumably) formed opinion >that he will (presumably) back up. If a person is thinking, it's >possible for them to be persuaded to change their mind. If a person >is not thinking, it's a dead-end until they start doing so. > > so we're back to the random punching metaphor, are we? :) anyway, in answer to your question, i would rather not have a law that allows people to abandon the thought process by relying on the opinions of those in power. i would rather teach those people who think it's ok to randomly punch people, ("like, are you not thinking?), to see the error of their ways and help them to become upstanding non-punching individuals, who don't punch because they respect others around them and understand the ramifications of their actions, than have them not punch just because it's the law. - -nora ************************************************************************** ******* " there's something exciting about the failure of modern technology to create a real looking fake human." - john linnell nora cohen (dot0926@aol.com) **************** ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jul 1998 17:40:55 GMT From: christi218@aol.com (Christi218) Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! I'm a little confused here...I thought it was the record company's decision to put the warning stickers on the CDs and tapes that they thought had questionable content -- not the government. Wasn't this practice started by a parent's group (with Tipper Gore leading it) in the late 1980s -- early 1990s? I can't remember the name of the organization right now but I think it has been discontinued. I never heard about the practicing of labelling CDs and tapes turning into a law in the United States. If it has, someone please inform me of it. :) I used to work in a record store and it was our decision not to sell things with the warning labels on it to minors -- not the record company's -- we wanted to keep good customer relations with the parents of the young adult consumers, that's why we did this. We would ask for ID if we thought the purchaser looked under 18 years old...or if they were, they could have a parent or an adult purchase it for them. (and yes we had some trouble with minors asking people in the store to buy something for them that had a warning label on it...and then the parents coming back in with the offending tape/CD...) The real offensive material (and at the time I worked there it was 2 Live Crew) was kept behind the counter with the edited version available on the shelves. Christine Chrissy_K on irc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:04:05 GMT From: wahrend@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: foreign language lyrics In article <35ab7156.1915157@nntp.bu.edu>, dacilen@bu.edu wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:06:44 GMT, wahrend@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > >(2 semesters later I can say cool stuff like ... > >"I'd like a loaf of bread please"). > > Ah, but that simple phrase contains so many grammar rules! You're > doing very well. :) Don't I know it. French is so much harder than spanish or german.. ugh. Nothing sounds the way it is spelled (phonics ha, whats that?) and every verb is irregular and the only time I pronounce things correctly is when I have a cold. ;-). > >Yeah, enya makes me want to go out and learn gaelic. There is a really cool > >latin verse at the end of Its a Sin by the Pet Shop Boys. > > Really??? Huh. Shows you how much I listen to Pet Shop Boys' lyrics, > maybe I should start being more careful with those. I've heard the > song a couple dozen times by now and haven't noticed it. At the very end of the tune, it almost sounds like mumbling but he pretty much says the he has wronged through his thoughts and actions, through his fault, his most grievous fault. I didn't notice it either and then I thought about clarifying a lyric and on the web page it had the latin... very cool. Kind of adds another dimension to the song. "wild" Bill - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jul 1998 18:16:16 GMT From: dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926) Subject: Re: Talents? (Was: Re: Fruvous Question...) > dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin) wrote: >*laugh* Well, Chad, I know nothing of your musical ability - but what >*are* you talented in? This goes for everyone - what're your hobbies, >what do you guys like to do that doesn't have anything to do with your >job? Me, I love cooking and experimenting with food (okay, that one >was obvious - see my FDC bio), cross-stitching, wild mushroom picking >(the ones you *eat*, sillies... the ones you *cook and eat*), it's a good thing you added cook, isn't it :) >translating Russian poetry and prose (which I, unfortunately, mutilate >- but hey, I'm not giving it to anyone else to read!), and from time >to time I'll paint with acryllics, mostly greeting cards. Anyone else >for interesting hobbies? > > > well, let's see, my main hobby is art ( i don't know if i can really call it a hobby, it's more of an obsession). im very much into fine art, aka drawing, painting etc. i use all sorts of media, from oils to watercolors to charcoal, to pen and ink etc. for a while i was really into surrealism, but now im dabbling a bit more in abstraction. don't get me wrong, i do the realism thing as well ( you should check out my huge acrylic painting of dave), but right now im rather facinated with color and shape. of course, this will all change in the fall when i begin college ( at parson's school of design in manhattan, to major in, guess what, fine art), then it won't be a hobby, but the begining of a career. aside from art, im also interested in dramatics ( i was in two of my school's obsenely overpriced plays, fools ( i played yenchna the fish vendor...oooh), and lost in yonkers ( i played grandma). i also write poetry (some good, some really really terrible), and enjoy the all american pastime of people watching :) - -nora ************************************************************************** ******* " there's something exciting about the failure of modern technology to create a real looking fake human." - john linnell nora cohen (dot0926@aol.com) **************** ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #101 ********************************************