From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #78 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, July 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 078 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Circus Fruvous [Gibbins Christopher <4cg7@qlink.queensu.ca>] foreign language lyrics [Ofer Inbar ] intermittent propogation via the gateway recently [Ofer Inbar ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Jul 1998 17:29:26 GMT From: Gibbins Christopher <4cg7@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Circus Fruvous I was at the Calgary Stampede and this year they had Circus Eloise from I think Quebec. Anyway, it's a people based circus so juggling, acrobats and the like. On stage with the performers were a live band and I was struck how Fruvous like alot of it sounded. So I think the next thing the guys should do is get together with a circus troupe and do a big top show. It'd be a perfect melange, even the name sounds right "Circus Fruvous" or "Circ de Fru" maybe. - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 21:16:58 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: foreign language lyrics wahrend@my-dejanews.com wrote: > You know you're doomed when you can sing the french lyrics and haven't a clue > as to what they mean. (or you make up meanings.. ;-) or look on FDC for > translations..) Doomed :) I actually really love it when a band sings in a foreign language and inspires me to try to learn the words. I already knew French before hearing fruvous, so they haven't yet done it to me, but other musicians have. I think the first time I can remember it happening is when I picked up a few Latin words from Enya. Especially the song Cursum Perficio (perfect course) which, admittedly, doesn't really have all that many interesting words to learn, but just sounds great! The coolest, and also most recent instance of this for me has been my fascination with Haitian Rara/Vodou bands over the past two years, especially Boukman Eksperyans and Boukan Ginen. The previously dominant form of Haitian music, Compas, was often sung in French, about themes that are common all over the world. Vodou Adjae, pioneered by Boukman Eksperyans, is usually in Haitian Creole and occasionally in Langaj (the secret language of vodou, no translation available), and is mostly about very Haitian issues, including a lot of the Vodou faith. I don't really know this, but it seems to me that Vodou is to Haitians as Islam is to Arabs. Not all Haitians believe in, practice, or are in some way involved with Vodou, but it's still part of their culture and history. Anyway, the really cool thing is that all of Boukman Eksperyan's albums have complete lyrics to all the songs, in both English and the Haitian Creole they're sung in. (Except for the Langaj bits, which aren't translated :) They even have footnotes for words and phrases that aren't exactly translateable, like Ginen, Lakou, and "three words". The Boukan Ginen albums, on the other hand, usually only have lyrics to one or two songs, and for the rest, just a really brief blurb on what the song is about. That means I can try to learn the language from the Boukman Eksperyans albums, and then test myself by trying to understand the Boukan Ginen songs. The two bands are very similar and the overlap in vocabulary used is very large. Right now I'm listening to a CD by Oumou Sangare, singing in her native Wassoulou from Mali. The CD booklet has full translations into French and English of all the songs, but doesn't have any of the original lyrics transliterated. I don't know if I'm ever gonna be brave enough to tackle that - though I could use it to polish up my French a little :-) -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@polyamory.org "Mere praise of peace is easy but ineffective. What is needed is active participation in the fight against war and everything that leads to it." -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 22:59:33 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: intermittent propogation via the gateway recently The news server at leftbank has had intermitted problems with its *outgoing* news feed recently. This means that some articles posted locally didn't get out to the rest of the world. Anyone who has tried to post using the mail->news gateway at ammf@fruvous.com may have been affected. If you've posted through the gateway in the past two weeks or so, and haven't seen any followups or repsonses to your posting, check DejaNews to see if your article is there. If it's not, you may want to re-post it. The incoming newsfeed hasn't been having any problems, so articles from the rest of the world have been going to the mailing list just fine. Also, since the problem was with *propogation* rather than posting, any articles posted via the gateway DID get sent out to the mailing list subscribers. This means that if you've lost a copy of something you'd like to re-post, and it's not on DejaNews, you can still find it in the ammf archive at SMOE (see the link from FDC). I've twiddled the gateway software to add a header to stuff posted through the gateway, so in the future I can see which articles came through that way, and check up on them myself, and re-post them if necessary after I fix any problem I find. However, since I just added this today, I have no way of knowing which articles on the newsgroup were posted through the mail gateway before today (except my own). Oh, the problem seems to be gone for now. Hopefully it won't return. -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@cs.brandeis.edu -- The Left Bank Operation -- lbo@leftbank.com http://www.leftbank.com/ It's been said that if a sysadmin does his job perfectly, he's the fellow that people wonder what he does and why the company needs him, until he goes on vacation. -- comp.unix.admin FAQ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 02:39:00 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Re: the coming week.... starfox@nationwide.Green.Eggs.And.NOSpam.net (Starfox) writes: > Moxy Fruvous wrote: > : Wed July 15 Portland, ME Stone Coast Brewing Co. > > *blinks* They are playing at a Brewing Company?? Are they getting paid > in beer? :) Unless of course, I've misunderstood again... Stone Coast Brewing Company is actually a frequent live music venue. That's not uncommon - typically an independent brewery is also a restaurant, and many of them have bands. It's usually rock bands, and usually not big names, although Stone Coast has some pretty well known ones. Some of my local favorites have played there a bunch of times: Groovasaurus, Rippopotamus, Heavy Metal Horns, Carol Noonan Band, Gordon Stone Trio... If I remember correctly, it's a 21+ venue, as befits a brewery. They're at Portland's Old Port, phone 207-773-2337 -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@cs.brandeis.edu -- The Left Bank Operation -- lbo@leftbank.com http://www.leftbank.com/ -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- WBRS@brandeis.edu http://www.wbrs.org/ "Get thee out of my nostrils!" -- catness@apocalypse.org ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #78 *******************************************