From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #73 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, July 8 1998 Volume 01 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: greetings from Alberta! [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] RE: greetings from Alberta! ["Demetriou, Melanie" ] Re: 21+ shows [kpfruhead@aol.com (KPFruhead)] Re: greetings from Alberta! [dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926)] Re: Penns LANDING baby Re: 7/12 show [BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholso] RE: greetings from Alberta! ["Demetriou, Melanie" speaking of those labels, when i was in toronto on my senior trip last >month,and we were set free to cruise the canadian malls, (oooh, exotic), i >wandered into an hmv, and i could have sworn that live noise did actually have >some sort of explicit language warning sticker on it.... it just struck me as >funny, ( funny wierd, not funny haha)... - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:17:12 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: greetings from Alberta! On Wednesday, July 08, 1998 11:35 AM, elinX@rff.org [SMTP:elinX@rff.org] wrote: > While I have nothing against such language use, I will not play those > segments to my nine year old friend, Hayley, at all. And I don't want > Hayley going into a record store and buying a CD with such language on > it, so I believe that such advsories are NOT BAD. I agree with you completely. I find these bits funny as hell, but they're certainly not suitable for children. I don't play them with my daughter present, either. (Or my mom. *smile*) As a parent, I appreciate such "warnings," just as I appreciate movie ratings. They help me to make informed choices. > By the way, some of you got a chance to see Hayley in Columbia, MD > last week. She was the little girl who got to introduce the band. And > I only pushed her up towards the stage a little bit, really. Imagine being a nine year old who got to introduce the band! What a memory to have!! What a good friend you are. Melanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:07:57 GMT From: "Wierzbicki/Ross Family" Subject: Sorry Bout that Small problem... /me hits Mail program - -----Original Message----- From: Life101 Newsgroups: alt.music.moxy-fruvous To: Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Patty Griffin at the Philly show > >-----Original Message----- >From: Harry A Keates >To: >Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 9:20 AM >Subject: Patty Griffin at the Philly show > > >>Hi, >> >>For those of you lucky enough to go to the Penns Landing show, if you >>don't know of Patty Griffin yet, I'd make a real effort to see her show. >>I can't say enough good things about her. I don't know if she will be >>doing the show solo or with her new band, but either way, I am sure she >>will love her. >> >>and, if you are planning on taping the Fruvous show, if you wouldn't mind >>taping Patty as well, I think you will be glad that you did, and I would >>be appreciative as well. : ) >> >>- Harry >> >>_____________________________________________________________________ >>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >>Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> > > ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jul 1998 18:18:21 GMT From: kpfruhead@aol.com (KPFruhead) Subject: Re: 21+ shows >5) Just show up and see what happens. >Sometimes the person working the >door is actually a nice person. Imagine that. Good point Chad! That was my expirence with the Bowery Ballroom show... All I heard from them on the phone was nobody under 21 at all. I showed up anyway (with parents, of course), and they didn't even look at me, just let me right in. Ken, trying to provide encouragment for those not fourtnate enough to have been alive 21 years... ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jul 1998 20:38:16 GMT From: dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926) Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! >elinX@rff.org wrote: >Well, Live Noise *does* include a couple of "colorful metaphors", >specifically in the "lowest highest point" and "naked puppet" >segments. > >While I have nothing against such language use, I will not play those >segments to my nine year old friend, Hayley, at all. And I don't want >Hayley going into a record store and buying a CD with such language on >it, so I believe that such advsories are NOT BAD. > i agree with you wholeheartedly that some parts of live noise are inappropriate for a 9 year old's ears ( when playing live noise for my sister, i too do some careful editing), however, i do not agree with the warning lables, as it is the parent's right, and not the government's to decide what is "explicit". many parents will see such labeling, and immediatly condemn the artist, without even listening to the music first. this enables the right wing censors to violate freedom of expression without overt methods, rather as a means of reinstituting "family values". much like the recent communications decency act, which basicly was a conservative censorship platform, which was thankfully defeated ( but sadly, is gaining new support), the nation is relinquishing it's rights in return for a blanket of so called protection, which, if examined, only really protects ignorence and mass hysteria. - -nora ************************************************************************** ******* " there's something exciting about the failure of modern technology to create a real looking fake human." - john linnell nora cohen (dot0926@aol.com) **************** ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jul 1998 20:59:54 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: Penns LANDING baby Re: 7/12 show anyway, i heard that if you are a member of WXPN you can meet the bands. anyone here a member? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 21:03:51 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: greetings from Alberta! On Wednesday, July 08, 1998 4:38 PM, dot0926@aol.com [SMTP:dot0926@aol.com] wrote: > i agree with you wholeheartedly that some parts of live noise are inappropriate > for a 9 year old's ears ( when playing live noise for my sister, i too do some > careful editing), however, i do not agree with the warning lables, as it is the > parent's right, and not the government's to decide what is "explicit". many > parents will see such labeling, and immediatly condemn the artist, without even > listening to the music first. this enables the right wing censors to violate > freedom of expression without overt methods, rather as a means of reinstituting > "family values". much like the recent communications decency act, which basicly > was a conservative censorship platform, which was thankfully defeated ( but > sadly, is gaining new support), the nation is relinquishing it's rights in > return for a blanket of so called protection, which, if examined, only really > protects ignorence and mass hysteria. While I believe also that many parents will use warning labels to condemn recordings (and books and whatever else carries them), not providing the labels won't prevent such people from being closedminded. People are people, regardless of legislation (something legislators have failed to notice). These are the same parents that think if you don't provide birth control, kids won't have sex. So it's not the labeling that's the problem; it's the utilization thereof. IMHO. I am unfamiliar with the communications decency act you mention. What does it entail? Who supports it? Melanie -- Ignorance & prejudice & fear walk hand in hand -- Rush, "Witchhunt" ------------------------------ Date: 8 Jul 1998 21:33:37 GMT From: jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure) Subject: Re: Penns LANDING baby Re: 7/12 show Brian Nicholson (BEQS26C@prodigy.com) wrote: : anyway, i heard that if you are a member of WXPN you can meet the bands. : anyone here a member? I am, but being that I'm in Illinois with not a ton of money and a job, I won't be at the show. :( - - jordan - -- Fnord is the sales tax on happiness. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #73 *******************************************