From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #43 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, June 29 1998 Volume 01 : Number 043 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups [dgodwin1@aol.com (DGodwin1)] Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups ["Jason A. Reiser" ] Ever considered a fru-mailing list? ["fraud" ] Re: Gordon's Bowery Ballroom Review [dmandeluxe@aol.com (Dmandeluxe)] Re: nyc!! [dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926)] nyc!! [dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Jun 1998 04:25:51 GMT From: dgodwin1@aol.com (DGodwin1) Subject: Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups >I think it is a good idea...also there is a Fruvous Mailing list at >http://www.onelist.com. >Which is a good way to talk to other fans. It is a bit empty and a little >slow >but I am hoping, being the list owner that things will pick up! I just looked for the Fruvous Mailing list, and I couldn't find it anywhere. On the bright side, I did find a mailing list For GBS....Anyway Daniel He who decided that he needed a cool funky quote.... (Myself) ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jun 1998 21:05:28 -0700 From: "Jason A. Reiser" Subject: Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups In article <1998062901503700.VAA01732@ladder01.news.aol.com>, buffruchic@aol.com says... > >So does this mean that my list I made up sucks and no one should go there? >Forgive me for taking that the wrong way but I am afraid I did. I thought the subject at hand was the fact that some Fruheads DO have access to e-mail, but can't access alt.music.moxy-fruvous. That being the case, as it has for some time, there has been talk about getting a mail<>news gateway setup for some time. My post served merely to point out that one finally DOES exist. I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade. You're free to start up any mailing list you'd like. However, personally I think that it's difficult to keep up with several different discussion groups that focus on the same topic. It was bad enough when I still felt a need to check alt.fan.moxy.fruvous. Sorry if you took offense. A lot of people still just don't know about this. I'm also rather excited about it as it is quite an accomplishment. Through teamwork among several people, and the resources of several providers being offered without cost (smoe.org, leftbank.com, masie.com, fishertowne.com) we can finally get ammf to a much larger audience. I didn't mean to put down your list. - - Jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 05:38:17 GMT From: "fraud" Subject: Ever considered a fru-mailing list? Hello, I have only recently become a reader in the moxy fruvus newsgroup but i find it rather interesting and quite effective for its purpose. But (and i dont mind that i started my sentance with but) i was wondering if anyone had ever considered or would consider a Majordomo--based mailing list; possibly using this for only significant announcements-(i.e. like an official setlist for each show rumors and press-type releases on what is going on with the group and et-cetera) another nice thing about a mailing list is that it does block out any unnecessary spam out there and offers a instantaneous-uncorrupted medium for the moxy fruvus lovers out there to communicate. There are many possibilities with a mailing list and i am curious as to what others think--yes i do realize that someone has started a mailing list in conjunction with the newsgroup but i am curious about the independent coexistence of these two seperate entities with two seperate purposes. I know this is a rather droll and boring message but it is two in the morning and i cannot sleep and i had an idea to get out of my head-i will check the responses to this post (if any) and see if maybe any action can and should be taken in that direction. - -eric "eyeeeeee-yieeeeee-eyeeeee-yieeeeeeee" (betcha thats the first time someone has tried to quote that part of "no no raja") ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 1998 07:11:05 GMT From: dmandeluxe@aol.com (Dmandeluxe) Subject: Re: Gordon's Bowery Ballroom Review Yes, yes, yes. This show was possibly the best Moxy show I've ever witnessed (I'm up to about 20 by now). The venue was too fab for words; what a gorgeous room, not too big (500 people capacity), horseshoe balcony w/ wrought iron fence, arch windows in the front. And the house sound was beyond reproach. Clean, punchy, perfect EQ; ARGH! I could go awn and awn!! Hey Gordo, sad to say, but as the crowd's get bigger, they get ruder. It comes with the new turf. I thought a chosen few deserved the "Shut the Fuck Up" Award on a few occassions, but they also did their share of being part of one fired up crowd. Anyway.... The two outstanding moments for me bookended the show: The opening number: A downtempo, groove-locked, ready for 12" vinyl version of "Sahara." Murray commented afterwards that they had been trying a while to make that track fly and that's was the vibe settled on. Well, they nailed it. If the Bottom Line folks are reading this, press it on 12" & send it to DanceTracks. The closer: No surprise, but the Drinking Song floored me this time. Mainly because I've never been to a show where the crowd sang the WHOLE number. Like, right on cue, too. I shut up & just listened because the crowd sounded GREAT. And just about everything in-between was magic. The improvs were so on that they really cracked each other up on a number of ocassions. Michael had a banner evening. He really couldn't miss. HE, btw, had to skip out of there immediately to take a 9 or 10 hour bus ride (leaving Port Authority @ 1:30am) back to Toronto, in order to be at a friends wedding that afternoon. I believe that gets the Super Stud Award of the Month. Moxy show usually fall into three categories: Great, Incredible, & Pinch-Me-I'm-Dreaming. Just when you think they can get any higher or better, they outdo themselves. Pinch me, quick. Mikey ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:59:48 GMT From: dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926) Subject: Re: nyc!! oops! i forgot to mention the other tmbg reference...when jian was playing the beat before "signed...." he started singing birdhouse in your soul! neat!! - -nora ************************************************************************** ******* " there's something exciting about the failure of modern technology to create a real looking fake human." - john linnell nora cohen (dot0926@aol.com) **************** ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 1998 08:54:29 GMT From: dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926) Subject: nyc!! hi everyone, it's nora, still hyper and glowing from last night's show at the bowery ballroom. - disclaimer- this is going to be really really long...you have been warned...ok, where to begin? after a misadventure through the subway, trying to figure out how to get to the club without the use of the m/j line, which wasn't running from 96th, and taking 5 subways instead of two, my sister and i arrived at the ballroom at 8:35, resigned to having missed the opening band, but confident that fruvous wouldn't be on until 9. what a surprise it was to still see a line forming by the club when we arrived. i was rather nervous on line, as they were checking id's, and i won't be 18 untill september. when i got to the front, i handed in my driver's permit (yes, im a loser, i dont have my license yet), hoping that they would only look at the year i was born (1980). the guy handed my id back to me and said "no", i swear i was about to cry, " bracelet for you", he continued. i breathed a sigh of relief, and happily agreed, and hurried into the club. we waited around for a while, and then the line began moving. after having expressed to me by the stamper guy ( technical term) the hope that he didn't crush my hand, i went inside. i headed straight for the merchandice counter, where i had my frumiles card stamped with those cool feet, and had cal complement my choice of purchase ( the i love canadian boys t). i then spotted someone who i thought was mary, and tentatively asked her if she was in fact mary. i was pleased to hear that it was, and although we only talked a short while (im sorry, my sister was feeling rather anti-social, and i didn't want to desert her), came across as a really sweet person, it was really nice to meet you, and yes, eventually i will meet and talk to jian about persia and my persian friend ( i still have yet to meet any of the lads, poor me), but my sister wanted to go straight home, so i couldn't stay after the show. anyway, the opening act came on, jess ( introduced as jeff) klein, who was pretty decent and funny. next came the waiting game. after countless technical adjustments, (yes even the tambourine was "tuned"), fruvous came on at around 10:40 with the extended version of sahara. first jian came out and took a seat directly in front of me ( well, almost, i was in the second row), looked right at me, and gave me a big smile. ( i was dying, as i have a bit of a jian thing). murray then appeared, and the two of them began, and soon mike and dave emerged and joined in. wow, what a wonderful version of sahara, im glad i finally got to hear it. this one drunk guy behind me was screaming "kick in the ass, kick in the ass", and others were yelling requests as well, from big fish, to the lowest highest point ( whoever yelled for that apparently has yet to master the concept of improv...).jian commented how this was a "very requesty crowd", and dave asked if they should play "sapphire bullets of pure love", the first tmbg reference of the night. the lads then played jockey full of bourbon, which was fun and energetic, and in top form.( just a note, im doing my best, but alot of the banter is probably out of order, sorry). a bunch of people in the right balcony began yelling "murray's people" , "murray's people", to which mike observed that one of the main criterion for being murray's people is to actually be on murray's side of the room ( he was on the left, from the crowd's point of view). dave then decided that they were dave-o's people, and began a dave-o's people improv which evolved into a regaee beat. jian then decided that if he had people, they wouldn't be jian's people, rather, chomsky's people, and mike decided that his people would be called shlomsky's people. jian then noted that they had just created intra-band secretarianism, where each band member had his own posse to beat up the other members' posses. then came bj dont cry, with a few live noisesque changes, like mike's megaphoned mozart's magic flute part and the changing of the last verse lines to "but he'd rather bee in the mosh pit of the ballroom". horseshoes came next, which i love to hear live, the line "and i was satisfied, god was on our side", especially the word satisfied, sounds so raw, so emotional. i love it. after a beautiful version of horseshoes, the lads all switched instraments and places to play some new songs, but before they could begin, mike started playing cheezy 80's band bass, really hamming it up, it was hysterical. after mike calmed down (relatively, after all, this is mike), they played sad girl, which i love even more than the first time i'd heard it. jian's voice sounds amazing, and the lyrics are funny, yet poignant and sad all at once. after sad girl came pisco bandito, which was introduced, i think, as a song about a renegade illegal alien living in the seas. what a funny song, plus, i love when murray sings lead, it seems so rare. then the lads tried to start you will go to the moon after talking about garbage , earth's pollution and wyoming, but that same drunk guy was still yelling for kick in the ass, mike ripped up his setlist- for shame-, and so it took them a few tries to get the correct pitches ( you should have seen the look of pure exasperation on jian's face), but once they did, it was great. ywgttm is simply a great song, i love the fa fa fa fa fadadadadadafafa hand motions and mike and jians gyrations, funny stuff. i dont remember when this was, so ill add it here, at one point, dave brought up jewel's poetry ( to which all the lads began spouting terrible poetry).jian jokingly decided that it was wrong of them to keep making fun of jewel, and that they should stop. dave then asked why she even put out a poetry book, and mike responded by making a palm rubbing money symbol, and murray said that this way, she can truthfully call herself a best selling poet. ouch. then somehow, a discussion of her, um, endowements commenced, and a rivalry of who has the better chest, jewel, or the lads began. jian then stated how americans are united (ha), and that we're all represented (double ha) etc., but in canada, it wasn't like that. he explains the spicier survey, and asks the "who wasn't asked" question. murray admits that he has no idea, because he wasnt paying any attention, and i forgot what mike and dave said (someone please remind me!), but, yes, finally, it was the kids. i love the kids' song. the highlight- "is there someting you like?- (murray) barney!- is there something you despise? -(dave) barney!". out come the bowler hats, so i naturally assume it's boo time, was i happy to see mike become grandpa fruvous, (spitting into the crowd, and if i had been one step to the right....yuck), and asked the auidence to join him in a little sing along. minnie the moocher was great, even if mike- um, grandpa, did curse the crowd out, but hey " it's for the rhyme". next came another new one, i will hold you, which was beautiful. i wish that somwone would say something like those lyrics to me, a girl can dream, can't she? sigh....next came a big treat, as the lads started talking about how rumors should be quashed, and so to stop the rumors as to how they got the name moxy fruvous, they would tell us the story of it's namesake, marion fruvous, the first canadian environmental crusader. i had heard about this song, but never actually heard it, so i was rather excited. mike offered us americans a "legend...key...lexicon..." to understand the canadian terms, such as the publication for wannabe liberals, who instead of hugging trees, hug paper. murray explained that in toronto, all schoolchildren learn her tale, and began to recite the spoken part. what a great song! the funniest part was when dave dressed as marion herself, to which murray and jian commented that it looks like marion fruvous was growing facial hair and that she must be into ska music (dave was looking like quite the skamiester). after the song, jian started a beat on the drums and began chanting " that was a rare fruvous song, that was a rare fruvous spng", to which mike added, " rare, not medium or well done". next, the lads started talking about virginia, but they would now salute another state, the state of michigan. the energy of michigian millitia was amazing, as everyone was dancing and jumping up and down. jian the asked " who here likes food?", and we all screamed. murray then told everyone who likes food to raise his or her hand, jump up and down, and roll on the floor ( joke). they played a really fast johnny saucep'n, to which i am proud to say, i recited every word. next came the a capella version of message to you, which was beautiful. i got so caught up in the harmony that i clapped of beat half the time, so if anyone saw a short girl in the second row wearing a scooby dooby doo t shirt, ( i was thrilled when mike sang scooby dooby doo during minnie the moocher), clapping off beat, it was me. after message, dave conspiciously left, and jian began the "we, the members of moxy fruvous are repubicans" bit, although it's the second time i've heard it, i think it's hysterical. so he continues with " no, not in the american sense, that would be insane"..."australian republicans"..."anti-monarchy"..."but there's one ex-monarch who we sort of like, who's our special guest tonight..." then the people in the right balcony yell "murray", to which mike retorts that it's impossible for murray to be the special guest, he's in the band. jian then gets mock-offended for being interupted, and goes of on the 'im hurting, we've learned nothing in therapy session 2, we're not acting as a consensus' bit. mike plays the doctor, urging murray and jian to visualize the thimble. murray mocks mike's inability to say symbol, and jian says that the lack of unity has caused dave to leave the stage. murray adds that dave is probably on his second ciggerette by now ( dave had been smoking all night- scandal, scandal), to which jian responds, "hey, thats a seperate issue". mike chimes in with "so is my lisp". finally, jian goes into the "is it____...no, is it_____,no..."and the king of spain comes out. it was so nice to see so many hands raised counting the "one,two,three,four", i felt like a part of something great. dave, instead of singing "i dont even give a care" sang "im not wearing underwear", and groped himself. :) after the king of spain, the lads went straight into the short green eggs and ham, where at the "not the beatles" part, jian basicly let mike take control. mike seized this, with renditions of "cabaret", something about looking at his legs, and went into the captian kirk thing. very very funny indeed. after green egg and ham came get in the car, which is always a fun tune to hear and dance to. then jian started a beat that sounded like the begining of authors, but then began thanking everyone, from new fans, to fruheads, to the ballroom, to jess klien, etc. the beat turned out to be the signed sealed delivered medely, with papa was a rolling stone and, to my delight, duran duran's rio thrown in. the lads left the stage, to return a minute later for the first encore. video barginville began the first encore, but not without "problems". apparently, jian was no happy with the crowds' first yelling of "two", and kept restarting. the crowd responded by yelling random numbers like 37, zero, and my addition, .5. finally, we twoed it to jian's satisfaction, and the song was great. it's so much fun to be able to yell "pissed off the video man" along with hundreds of others. then the second song of the first encore began, which was psycho killer, which in my humble opinion, is better performed by fruvous then by the talking heads. the lads left the stage once more, to return 5 minutes later for the final encore. this was the drinking sone, which , you ignored the idiot who kept yelling "yeah!" everytime mike sang ''and we'd drink" was amazing. the crowd sang beautifuly and respectively. jian looked like he was near tears the whole time, and i must admit that i was pretty close myself. mike's voice was strong, expressive and beautiful. murray, jian, and dave harmonised wonderfully and dave's quiet accordian playing provided the melody with elegance. it was lovely. a perfect end to an amzing evening. if anyone taped the show and would be willing to make me a copy, please let me know. i took about 25 pictures, do i'll try to get the good ones up on fdc as soon as possible. - -nora ************************************************************************** ******* " there's something exciting about the failure of modern technology to create a real looking fake human." - john linnell nora cohen (dot0926@aol.com) **************** ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #43 *******************************************