From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #41 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, June 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups ["Jason A. Reiser" ] Gordon's Bowery Ballroom Review [gorbitron@aol.com (Gorbitron)] Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups [buffruchic@aol.com (BufFruChic)] Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups ["A.J. LoCicero" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Jun 1998 17:16:12 -0700 From: "Jason A. Reiser" Subject: Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups In article <1998062817225400.NAA23183@ladder03.news.aol.com>, buffruchic@aol.com says... >I think it is a good idea...also there is a Fruvous Mailing list at >http://www.onelist.com. >Which is a good way to talk to other fans. It is a bit empty and a little slow >but I am hoping, being the list owner that things will pick up! People with e-mail who can't get alt.music.moxy-fruvous? Ridiculous! There is an ammf mail<>news gateway available thanks to Ofer and the fine folks at smoe.org and leftbank.com. This is a standard Majordomo mailing list (individual messages or digest) which sends all posts on ammf to your mailbox, and allows you to post to the newsgroup as well! Details are under the "MOXY ONLINE" section of FDC: http://www.fruvous.com/other.html Spread the word... - - Jason ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 1998 01:26:46 GMT From: gorbitron@aol.com (Gorbitron) Subject: Gordon's Bowery Ballroom Review The Bowery Ballroom could conceivably be hard to find if there weren't a bunch of people waiting in line. Nestled in between Chinatown and Little Italy, the club's outside looks like any other building in the neighborhood. The flag for the business in the same building is written in Chinese and English, and I did not see a marquee for the Ballroom anywhere, but maybe I wasn't looking. The venue was very nice. Brand spanking new, nice and clean. The staff was pleasant and friendly. The bar stunk. They had no tap water and no milk for a kahlua drink. Imagine not being able to order a White Russian. And no ice water? I would end up feeling very dehydrated by the end of the show. I didn't want to spend everything on bottled water at three dollars a pop. Jess Klein opened for the second of my Fru-shows in a row. She is pleasant and entertaining. Of course most of the crowd continued their conversation throughout her performance. By the time Fruvous came on, the place was rather packed. Capacity in the performance room is 795. I'd guess there were about 740 people there, including staff. But I'm not that good of a counter. If I were the organizer of a rally, I am sure I would say "approximately 2500 people showed up for the Fruvous rally today in New York City,'" but that would be a downright lie. The show started with the extended Sahara. As soon as this started, the crazy screaming Murheads "whoohooed" - they didn't much stop for a while. They kept yelling "we're Murray's people" until their screams were acknowledged (but we'll get to that later). This crowd was very into yelling out song suggestions. One person spent the entire evening yelling "Kick in the Ass!!!!" which is what he deserved. "That guy who won't stop screaming for just one song, he gets a kick in the ass, kick in the ass. That guy who's been yelling in my ear too long, he gets a kick in the ass, kick in the ass." I even heard one person continually yelling "Lowest Highest Point!" which really made me laugh. We continued on with Jockey and BJ. The crazy screaming Murheads kept yelling. Finally Murray acknowledged his people. Jian asked if people had been to Albany. Some people over at Stage Dave yelled "we're Murray's people!" So one of the lads, I forget which, told them they were standing in the wrong place. They then launched into "Dave-O's people" which sounded an awful lot like Murray's People. But by the end, it had transformed itself into a reggae version. Then we heard Horseshoes. After Horseshoes, the band changed instruments to the Sad Girl configuration. Mike started playing the bass. Next thing we know, Mike is playing a bad bass solo making all sorts of faces. This, I am sorry to say, is indescribable, but I know a lot of people were snapping photos. I hope one makes it on to FDC. And then they played Sad Girl. Next was Pisco Bandito, which I had termed Moxy's Jimmy Buffet song. But roB! in his musical wisdom said it reminded him of the Kinks Come Dancing and I believe he may have hit the nail right on the head. And what did roB! get for his troubles? A cuddle and a peck on the cheek.* *No one that I know of actually gave roB! a cuddle and a peck on the cheek for that pealr od wisdeom. The Kinks song has a line that says "he'd end up blowing all his wages for the week all for a cuddle and a peck on the cheek." But if you'd care to arrange this reward for roB!, please feel free to do so. They then started talking about the littering of sytrofoam cups. I heard a couple of random whispers about Marion Fruvous. I had never heard this before, so of course I grew very excited (and very confused, not knowing that this song had anything to do with littering because I refuse to read the lyrics of the songs I haven't heard - it blows the joke when I finally do). But then they sang You Will Go to the Moon. Oh well. We then heard The Kids Song. One minute Mike is a small kid, next minute he is Grandpa Fruvous! Yes - Minnie the Moocher for the second night in a row. A nice set of lyrics, good crowd participation on the sing along. What followed soon after was I Will Hold You which I didn't like the first time I heard it. I may have been wrong because I like it now. I'm starting to doubt myself like maybe I had actually heard a different song and thought I had heard this. Or maybe I'm just dumb. Now they say they are going to tell us a story of how they got their name. Well I'll be darned, they started an introduction to Ballad of Marion Fruvous. And they did it! It was indescribably good. Just a great combination of music and lyric and jump around the stage showmanship and a Les Miserables (NOT Andrew Lloyd Webber) cover/tease thrown in there for good measure. Why this is not a part of their regular rotation I have no idea. I think it shows off Fruvous wonderfully. People want to ask, what is Fruvous like? Let them watch a performance of that number. It's a real great one. When the song was over, Jian got behind the kit and sang a bouncy little tune about "that was a rare Fruvous song." Pretty funny. Then they went headlong into Michigan Militia. This song rocks, but my dehydration was getting to me, so when they next played Johnny Saucep'n, I broke down and paid $6 for some drinks. Then I made my way up front during the a capella Message which I thought was in the wrong place in the set. But like I always say, do I think I could do better? Next Dave disappeared from the stage and what followed was a long King of Spain introduction. Jian did the thing that there is no name for where he tells us what he is feeling and how he is hurt. If you know the bit, you probably know what I mean. If you don't, then you don't. Well Murray played the game, too. And Mike played the doctor. The whole thing was hilarious. Then somebody (not sure who) said something about Dave being on his second cigarette. So they introduced the King of Spain. He sang his tune and then it was Green Eggs, the short version. My favorite Fruvous shows are the ones where Mike is crazy bouncing of the walls jumping around acting like a madman drop dead hilarious. And tonight's show as no exception. When the not the Beatles line came about, Mike came out from behind the congas. He did a couple of Bob Fosse dance numbers (including an extremely suggestive chair maneuver), sang a little bit of Cabaret, did some Captain Kirk/Yeoman Rand (the line from "Miri" about "look at my legs") and generally went nuts. I think it was when Dave said "Mr. Perception Sam I Am" that I remembered this was Green Eggs and Ham and not the "Mike Ford the Sidesplitter" number. Then they played Get in the Car. I heard someone scream "NO!" like maybe they hate this song or something? Or were they expecting something else? I don't get it. Maybe it brings up bad memories for him. They then did the Signed Sealed Delivered, new edition, with Rio and Papa Was a Rolling Stone thrown in. It's a good number, but the dehydration was starting to get to me. I went to the back of the room near the bar and bought another $6 in spring water. The encore started with Video Bargainville. OK good I didn't have to pay too much attention while trying to hydrate myself. Then they did the Psycho Killer thing. Standing in the back of the room, not singing along, I was able to hear the phantom note really well. You know where everyone sings the note that isn't there during the chorus. Listen for it sometime. The first chorus, lots of people sing it. The second, not that many. The third, almost nobody. This is because repetition is the key to learning. This is because repetition is the key to learning. They they then left the stage and a big group of people rudely shoved their way past me to get out telling me to "get out of their way - the show's over" and I said "ummm....they're not done" - I got a look that meant "you are an idiot" and I decided that these people didn't need to hear the Drinking Song or Gulf War Song or whatever else may end the show, so that I should just get out of their way and let them leave. The Drinking Song was sung sans microphones. Every time they sang "and we'd drink" the aforementioned Kick in the Ass guy yelled "whoo!" - does he get it? I have to admit I had a hard time enjoying it because a group of people to my left were having a very loud giggly conversation during the song. This was doubly annoying because the people who were doing this are people with an invested interest in the future of the band. I would hope that people who are in a position to help the band wouldn't spend their time hindering people's enjoyment of the show. I mean, I've seen the Drinking Song. I've seen it sung from the steps at the Irom Horse. I've sung it arm and arm many times. But some people are seeing Fruvous for the first time at every show. These are the people to which you should be considerate. Stepping down from the soapbox . . ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jun 1998 01:50:37 GMT From: buffruchic@aol.com (BufFruChic) Subject: Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups So does this mean that my list I made up sucks and no one should go there? Forgive me for taking that the wrong way but I am afraid I did. Jena - -------------------- Jena/Murlady/Moosegirl The Artist formally know as the Keeper of BufFruChic@aol.com Gordon's Happy Fun Ball! "PG PG PG!" Maige ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:20:11 -0400 From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Fruheads without Newsgroups BufFruChic wrote: > > So does this mean that my list I made up sucks and no one should go there? > Forgive me for taking that the wrong way but I am afraid I did. Well Jena, I'm sure Jason didn't mean it that way at all, but it does raise an interesting point. A separate mailing list is a bit of a double edged sword. Your list is potentially GOOD because it is another Moxy forum. Your list is pontentially BAD because it is a separate forum and info will not move as easily between that and this. What does that mean? Well, actually I don't know. I certainly think you are entitled to a mailing list if you want one, and I'll be happy to participate, but on the other hand, I'm not sure if this band can support two totally separate online forums (Actually more if you count IRC and ICQ). Indeed you are not the first to try something like this. People who have been on a while will remember the Bargainville Discount Store which was a mailing list we had going a while back. I posted to it, but personally I found it confusing to have two different forums. Ultimately the BDS died because it was being run as a manual list and it was too much work for the proprieters. Your list is automated, so you won't have that problem, but I honestly don't know if you will get that much traffic with the NG now available to anyone with mail, newsgroup access, or web access. I guess all you can do is try and see what happens. Off to sign up at onelist... A.J. - -- One of life's tragedies: Given her parentage, Canada could have had American know-how, French culture, and British government. Instead she wound up with British know-how, French Government, and American culture. _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #41 *******************************************