From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V12 #252 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, September 14 2008 Volume 12 : Number 252 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums ["Paulo" ] Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums ["Paulo" Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums ----- Original Message ----- From: Merujo To: alloy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums Hi folks, Thomas has just posted a blog entry about the anticipated 2009 EMI re-releases of TGAOW (as a two-CD set) and TFE (one CD), with lovely little extra gems included. The full blog entry can be found here: http://blog.thomasdolby.com/?p=569 Thomas has proposed the following tracks/order for the two re-releases, and he invites folks to debate the pros and cons: The Golden Age Of Wireless (2-CD set): CD1 3:50 Flying North 4:15 Commercial Breakup 3:45 Weightless 3:18 Europa and the Pirate Twins 4:20 Windpower 3:30 The Wreck of the Fairchild 5:12 Airwaves 4:32 Radio Silence (synth version) 5:45 Cloudburst At Shingle Street CD2 3:42 She Blinded Me With Science 5:14 One Of Our Submarines 3:43 Radio Silence (guitar version) 3:52 Leipzig 3:42 Urges 4:04 Therapy/Growth (Europa B-side) 3:18 New Toy (Live Wireless) 3:52 The Jungle Line (Low Noise) 3:36 Urban Tribal (Low Noise) The Flat Earth (one CD) 4:56 Dissidents 6:41 The Flat Earth 5:34 Screen Kiss 5:20 White City 5:00 Mulu The Rain Forest 5:40 I Scare Myself 4:14 Hyperactive! Bonus tracks: 4:09 Puppet Theatre 5:24 Get Out Of My Mix (edit) 4:03 Field Work (london mix) 7:17 Dissidents (The Search for Truth Part 1) Comments? Thoughts? You can always leave him a comment on his blog! Cheers, Melissa www.merujo.com -- "If there's any message to my work, it is ultimately that it's OK to be different, that it's good to be different, that we should question ourselves before we pass judgment on someone who looks different, behaves different, talks different, is a different color." -- Johnny Depp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:39:43 -0300 From: "Paulo" Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums That's really very good news, but I'd like to see included the 12'' remixes of Science, Dissidents and Submarines, Get Out Of My Mix (specially this last 2 which I consider better than the single or "album" versions). The remixes done in the 80's were very good, based on the existing elements of the song.... opposed to the 90s and 2000s common practice in which the remixer in most cases destroys the orignal melody and ads his own stuff. The remixers in the 80s were musicians and producers, if not the original artists. From the 90s onwards DJs felt they were more "suitable" for making nightclub music... go figure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Merujo To: alloy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums Hi folks, Thomas has just posted a blog entry about the anticipated 2009 EMI re-releases of TGAOW (as a two-CD set) and TFE (one CD), with lovely little extra gems included. The full blog entry can be found here: http://blog.thomasdolby.com/?p=569 Thomas has proposed the following tracks/order for the two re-releases, and he invites folks to debate the pros and cons: The Golden Age Of Wireless (2-CD set): CD1 3:50 Flying North 4:15 Commercial Breakup 3:45 Weightless 3:18 Europa and the Pirate Twins 4:20 Windpower 3:30 The Wreck of the Fairchild 5:12 Airwaves 4:32 Radio Silence (synth version) 5:45 Cloudburst At Shingle Street CD2 3:42 She Blinded Me With Science 5:14 One Of Our Submarines 3:43 Radio Silence (guitar version) 3:52 Leipzig 3:42 Urges 4:04 Therapy/Growth (Europa B-side) 3:18 New Toy (Live Wireless) 3:52 The Jungle Line (Low Noise) 3:36 Urban Tribal (Low Noise) The Flat Earth (one CD) 4:56 Dissidents 6:41 The Flat Earth 5:34 Screen Kiss 5:20 White City 5:00 Mulu The Rain Forest 5:40 I Scare Myself 4:14 Hyperactive! Bonus tracks: 4:09 Puppet Theatre 5:24 Get Out Of My Mix (edit) 4:03 Field Work (london mix) 7:17 Dissidents (The Search for Truth Part 1) Comments? Thoughts? You can always leave him a comment on his blog! Cheers, Melissa www.merujo.com -- "If there's any message to my work, it is ultimately that it's OK to be different, that it's good to be different, that we should question ourselves before we pass judgment on someone who looks different, behaves different, talks different, is a different color." -- Johnny Depp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:06:50 +0100 From: "Tim Dunn" Subject: RE: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums That's really true. I still have a lot of 80s remixes of Level 42, and especially Erasure, which are brilliant alternative versions. Anyone who does not have the Two-Ring Circus by Erasure should do anything they can to lay their hands on it, especially the awesome orchestral versions of three songs at the end. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Paulo Sent: 13 September 2008 13:40 To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums That's really very good news, but I'd like to see included the 12'' remixes of Science, Dissidents and Submarines, Get Out Of My Mix (specially this last 2 which I consider better than the single or "album" versions). The remixes done in the 80's were very good, based on the existing elements of the song.... opposed to the 90s and 2000s common practice in which the remixer in most cases destroys the orignal melody and ads his own stuff. The remixers in the 80s were musicians and producers, if not the original artists. From the 90s onwards DJs felt they were more "suitable" for making nightclub music... go figure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Merujo To: alloy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums Hi folks, Thomas has just posted a blog entry about the anticipated 2009 EMI re-releases of TGAOW (as a two-CD set) and TFE (one CD), with lovely little extra gems included. The full blog entry can be found here: http://blog.thomasdolby.com/?p=569 Thomas has proposed the following tracks/order for the two re-releases, and he invites folks to debate the pros and cons: The Golden Age Of Wireless (2-CD set): CD1 3:50 Flying North 4:15 Commercial Breakup 3:45 Weightless 3:18 Europa and the Pirate Twins 4:20 Windpower 3:30 The Wreck of the Fairchild 5:12 Airwaves 4:32 Radio Silence (synth version) 5:45 Cloudburst At Shingle Street CD2 3:42 She Blinded Me With Science 5:14 One Of Our Submarines 3:43 Radio Silence (guitar version) 3:52 Leipzig 3:42 Urges 4:04 Therapy/Growth (Europa B-side) 3:18 New Toy (Live Wireless) 3:52 The Jungle Line (Low Noise) 3:36 Urban Tribal (Low Noise) The Flat Earth (one CD) 4:56 Dissidents 6:41 The Flat Earth 5:34 Screen Kiss 5:20 White City 5:00 Mulu The Rain Forest 5:40 I Scare Myself 4:14 Hyperactive! Bonus tracks: 4:09 Puppet Theatre 5:24 Get Out Of My Mix (edit) 4:03 Field Work (london mix) 7:17 Dissidents (The Search for Truth Part 1) Comments? Thoughts? You can always leave him a comment on his blog! Cheers, Melissa www.merujo.com -- "If there's any message to my work, it is ultimately that it's OK to be different, that it's good to be different, that we should question ourselves before we pass judgment on someone who looks different, behaves different, talks different, is a different color." -- Johnny Depp ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:13:13 -0400 From: Merujo Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Tim Dunn wrote: > > That's really true. I still have a lot of 80s remixes of Level 42, and > especially Erasure, which are brilliant alternative versions. Anyone who > does not have the Two-Ring Circus by Erasure should do anything they can > to lay their hands on it, especially the awesome orchestral versions of > three songs at the end. > > True - Erasure has built an empire on remixes. I adore those guys and I do love some of their remixes (among the newer ones, Jeremy Wheatley's remix of "I Could Fall In Love With You" comes to mind immediately), but all the remixes I own are ones that end in the 4 or 5 minute mark. I think my biggest issue is with ones that just don't know when to stop. When you lose the thread of the song and it just gets reduced to dance rhythm, then I'm out. To me, it becomes boring. (Damn, I sound old! You kids get off my lawn!!) If a remix ends before the song is lost,I dig it much more. Last night I sat in my car with a friend, listening to Dolby tracks in the dark, in a hazy post-rain humid miasma. I told my friend I could still clearly remember the very first time I heard these songs. He remembered where he was when he bought his cassette of The Flat Earth. For how many musicians do you remember, two decades on, the circumstances of you buying their music? We are a pretty devoted lot, I think that's clear. Listening to Airwaves on the way home in the dark and the rising fog, past two huge government installations recently wrapped in walls and fences, watched by armed guards illuminated by glowing red lights in intimidating towers, the storytelling in the song hit home again. The combination of words and music, the images it creates in my head, all these years later... it's still so very cool. It'll be great to have these re-releases, but man, oh man, I can't wait to hear where he's taking us next. I'm betting on a spam tin reference. =) Melissa www.merujo.com - -- "If there's any message to my work, it is ultimately that it's OK to be different, that it's good to be different, that we should question ourselves before we pass judgment on someone who looks different, behaves different, talks different, is a different color." -- Johnny Depp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:20:38 -0400 From: Merujo Subject: Alloy: Administrative Reminder If you've changed your e-mail address or added a new one, please take steps to delete any old e-mail addresses you don't want included on the Alloy membership list. If you're not sure how to delete your old address(es), please contact me and I will do it for you. I'm getting some bounces from dead addies lately, and most of them go right into my spam box, so they don't get caught immediately. Cheers, Melissa www.merujo.com - -- "If there's any message to my work, it is ultimately that it's OK to be different, that it's good to be different, that we should question ourselves before we pass judgment on someone who looks different, behaves different, talks different, is a different color." -- Johnny Depp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:23:11 -0300 From: "Paulo" Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums The Swing Out Sister remixes of THE WATING GAME, SURRENDER (stuff gun mix) and TWILIGHT WORLD ad a lot to the album versions. They highlight instrumental passages 'invisible' in the body of the song and ad a lot of extra trumpet and piano solos absent in the originals. The Pet Shop Boys 12" remixes of WEST END GIRLS , DOMINO DANCING, LOVE COMES QUIKCLY, WHAT HAVE I DONE TO DESERVE THIS and many other songs also enhance the originals... if made today they would destroy the original song. Even the 12'' remix of MARIA MAGDALENA from SANDRA is better than the album version. The album lacks a great instrumental disco passage with a guitar solo. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Dunn To: alloy@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: RE: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums That's really true. I still have a lot of 80s remixes of Level 42, and especially Erasure, which are brilliant alternative versions. Anyone who does not have the Two-Ring Circus by Erasure should do anything they can to lay their hands on it, especially the awesome orchestral versions of three songs at the end. -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Paulo Sent: 13 September 2008 13:40 To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums That's really very good news, but I'd like to see included the 12'' remixes of Science, Dissidents and Submarines, Get Out Of My Mix (specially this last 2 which I consider better than the single or "album" versions). The remixes done in the 80's were very good, based on the existing elements of the song.... opposed to the 90s and 2000s common practice in which the remixer in most cases destroys the orignal melody and ads his own stuff. The remixers in the 80s were musicians and producers, if not the original artists. From the 90s onwards DJs felt they were more "suitable" for making nightclub music... go figure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Merujo To: alloy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Alloy: TMDR blogs about re-releases of first two albums Hi folks, Thomas has just posted a blog entry about the anticipated 2009 EMI re-releases of TGAOW (as a two-CD set) and TFE (one CD), with lovely little extra gems included. The full blog entry can be found here: http://blog.thomasdolby.com/?p=569 Thomas has proposed the following tracks/order for the two re-releases, and he invites folks to debate the pros and cons: The Golden Age Of Wireless (2-CD set): CD1 3:50 Flying North 4:15 Commercial Breakup 3:45 Weightless 3:18 Europa and the Pirate Twins 4:20 Windpower 3:30 The Wreck of the Fairchild 5:12 Airwaves 4:32 Radio Silence (synth version) 5:45 Cloudburst At Shingle Street CD2 3:42 She Blinded Me With Science 5:14 One Of Our Submarines 3:43 Radio Silence (guitar version) 3:52 Leipzig 3:42 Urges 4:04 Therapy/Growth (Europa B-side) 3:18 New Toy (Live Wireless) 3:52 The Jungle Line (Low Noise) 3:36 Urban Tribal (Low Noise) The Flat Earth (one CD) 4:56 Dissidents 6:41 The Flat Earth 5:34 Screen Kiss 5:20 White City 5:00 Mulu The Rain Forest 5:40 I Scare Myself 4:14 Hyperactive! Bonus tracks: 4:09 Puppet Theatre 5:24 Get Out Of My Mix (edit) 4:03 Field Work (london mix) 7:17 Dissidents (The Search for Truth Part 1) Comments? Thoughts? You can always leave him a comment on his blog! Cheers, Melissa www.merujo.com -- "If there's any message to my work, it is ultimately that it's OK to be different, that it's good to be different, that we should question ourselves before we pass judgment on someone who looks different, behaves different, talks different, is a different color." -- Johnny Depp ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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