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alloy-digest Saturday, January 6 2007 Volume 12 : Number 001
Today's Subjects:
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RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>]
getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs [<graham.maureen@sympatico.ca>]
RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [Melissa Jordan <merujo_sai@yahoo.com>]
Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [John McJunkin <johnmcjunkin@cox.net>]
Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [John McJunkin <johnmcjunkin@cox.net>]
RE: getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs ["Brian Price" <minicoopguy@ho]
Re: Alloy: NPR Songs [John McJunkin <johnmcjunkin@cox.net>]
Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves: Inorganic vs. organic [John McJunkin <johnmcjunk]
Re: getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs [Patrick McMillan <director@tm]
RE: Alloy: Viva la Synth Revolution! ["Thurlow, Robin" <rthurlow@binghamt]
RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>]
RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>]
Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version ["Kara R. Laidlaw" <mizmusic@mts.net>]
Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [Melissa Jordan <merujo_sai@yahoo.com>]
Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves: Inorganic vs. organic [Melissa Jordan <merujo_sa]
Re: Alloy: Viva la Synth Revolution! [Melissa Jordan <merujo_sai@yahoo.co]
RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version [Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>]
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:43:51 -0700
From: Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
I think his vocals sound a bit like the cold he had earlier is still lingering.
For some reason, I think this song could apply to the internet age. YouTube comes to mind. 'People only feed the airwaves' or bandwidth as is the case now.
This sole inhabitant is getting a bit tired of the white city of Denver.
No drug cathedral here, just a bottle of Nyquil to fight off this cold I picked up somewhere between NC and CO.
- -Keith
- -----Original Message-----
From: "Beth Meyer" <bethmeyer@mindspring.com>
To: alloy@smoe.org
Sent: 1/4/07 9:13 PM
Subject: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Hi, all;
(Great image, Crackers!)
So, am I the only one who has been playing the version of "Airwaves" from
NPR at almost every opportunity? I really love how that came out. It seems
much more intimate and vulnerable and just a bit world-weary than the
version on my copy of GAO.
What really gave me this feeling from it was how his voice sounded, though I
suppose the more spare arrangement also contributed. But it just seems
oddly richer with a more mature voice. It's not quite so extreme a
contrast, but it reminded me of the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt." When I
heard it sung by Trent Reznor, I kinda thought, "Oh, go whine to your
analyst already." But the Johnny Cash version was just emotionally
breathtaking.
Oh, well, just an idle thought as we prepare for more snow in Colorado (!).
- -Beth M.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:29:42 +0000
From: <graham.maureen@sympatico.ca>
Subject: getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs
Hi all
like Cory I don't know how to convert these windows files to mp3 on my old
mac
if anyone has done this already i'd love to have a copy
graham
graham.maureen@sympatico.ca
>From: "Cory Stickel" <crstickel@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org
>To: alloy@smoe.org
>Subject: Alloy: NPR Songs
>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:46:06 -0500
>
>
>Maybe I'm totally daft, but how can I save "Your Karma..." from NPR's
>website? When I right-click to save the link, it errors out, and when I
>play the song in my Windows Media, the "Save" option isn't available.
>I'd try to save in Real Player, but I can't get the file to play in
>anything other than WMP.
>
>I thought someone mentioned that they had saved "Karma" on their
>computer, so I thought I'd ask about it. I've never had a problem saving
>a file before! Am I doing something wrong, or does NPR.org have a block
>on saving their files?
>
>Cory (aka. Europa)
>
>"When I played poker last night with a pack of Tarot cards, I got a full
>house and four people died." ~Steven Wright
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:09:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Melissa Jordan <merujo_sai@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Keith, I will feel terrible if it turns out I gave this to you! I'm so sick now, I've been off work all week. (All week = three days, thanks to New Year's Day and the Ford funeral.) I woke up so freakishly feverish early this morning, my hair was soaking wet. Major suckage. Off to see the doctor shortly. I see antibiotics in my future...
Melissa
http://merujo.blogspot.com
Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com> wrote: This sole inhabitant is getting a bit tired of the white city of Denver.
No drug cathedral here, just a bottle of Nyquil to fight off this cold I picked up somewhere between NC and CO.
- -Keith
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:40:16 -0700
From: John McJunkin <johnmcjunkin@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Try a fist full of Coldrex for that cold, Keith.
jm
On Jan 5, 2007, at 12:43 AM, Keith Stansell wrote:
>
> I think his vocals sound a bit like the cold he had earlier is
> still lingering.
>
> For some reason, I think this song could apply to the internet
> age. YouTube comes to mind. 'People only feed the airwaves' or
> bandwidth as is the case now.
>
> This sole inhabitant is getting a bit tired of the white city of
> Denver.
> No drug cathedral here, just a bottle of Nyquil to fight off this
> cold I picked up somewhere between NC and CO.
>
> -Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Beth Meyer" <bethmeyer@mindspring.com>
> To: alloy@smoe.org
> Sent: 1/4/07 9:13 PM
> Subject: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
>
>
> Hi, all;
>
> (Great image, Crackers!)
>
> So, am I the only one who has been playing the version of
> "Airwaves" from
> NPR at almost every opportunity? I really love how that came out.
> It seems
> much more intimate and vulnerable and just a bit world-weary than the
> version on my copy of GAO.
>
> What really gave me this feeling from it was how his voice sounded,
> though I
> suppose the more spare arrangement also contributed. But it just
> seems
> oddly richer with a more mature voice. It's not quite so extreme a
> contrast, but it reminded me of the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt."
> When I
> heard it sung by Trent Reznor, I kinda thought, "Oh, go whine to your
> analyst already." But the Johnny Cash version was just emotionally
> breathtaking.
>
> Oh, well, just an idle thought as we prepare for more snow in
> Colorado (!).
>
> -Beth M.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:55:26 -0700
From: John McJunkin <johnmcjunkin@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
When I was in my late teens and early twenties, I used to have blues
jams with a couple of buddies, and it sounded pretty good, but it
didn't touch the soul, if you know what I mean. And we summarized
that lack of feel to the following statement, "ya gotta live the
blues if ya wanna play the blues." Trent Reznor--spoiled rotten rich
kid from Ohio who had every synth his parents' money could buy.
Johnny Cash--dirt poor kid from Arkansas who survived through a drug-
addled middle age to maturity--"rode hard and put away wet" as we
would say in Wyoming. I think that pretty clearly explains the
distinction between those two vocal performances. Same thing when
Johnny Cash sang the Beatles' "In My Life." Another pertinent
thought--my former boss bought a Harley-Davidson a couple of years
ago on a whim, and despite his black leather jacket, the oft-repeated
saying around the office was, "you can't buy cool." You can't make
spaghetti sauce in 5 minutes. It's all about time and development.
My $.02 on the new Airwaves vocal, which is indeed richer by far, IMHO.
jm
On Jan 4, 2007, at 9:13 PM, Beth Meyer wrote:
>
> Hi, all;
>
> (Great image, Crackers!)
>
> So, am I the only one who has been playing the version of
> "Airwaves" from
> NPR at almost every opportunity? I really love how that came out.
> It seems
> much more intimate and vulnerable and just a bit world-weary than the
> version on my copy of GAOW.
>
> What really gave me this feeling from it was how his voice sounded,
> though I
> suppose the more spare arrangement also contributed. But it just
> seems
> oddly richer with a more mature voice. It's not quite so extreme a
> contrast, but it reminded me of the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt."
> When I
> heard it sung by Trent Reznor, I kinda thought, "Oh, go whine to your
> analyst already." But the Johnny Cash version was just emotionally
> breathtaking.
>
> Oh, well, just an idle thought as we prepare for more snow in
> Colorado (!).
>
> -Beth M.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:19:41 +0000
From: "Brian Price" <minicoopguy@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs
I've been trying to do the same thing, but I've had zero success as of yet.
A friend told me audacity.com has a free player that will record that audio
stream, but it hasn't worked for me. I'd also love to have a copy for my
personal use because sooner or later NPR will take down those links. If
anyone else has a solution I'd love to hear it too. :)
Brian
>From: <graham.maureen@sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org
>To: alloy@smoe.org
>Subject: getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs
>Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:29:42 +0000
>
>
>Hi all
>like Cory I don't know how to convert these windows files to mp3 on my old
>mac
>if anyone has done this already i'd love to have a copy
>
>graham
>graham.maureen@sympatico.ca
>
>>From: "Cory Stickel" <crstickel@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org
>>To: alloy@smoe.org
>>Subject: Alloy: NPR Songs
>>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:46:06 -0500
>>
>>
>>Maybe I'm totally daft, but how can I save "Your Karma..." from NPR's
>>website? When I right-click to save the link, it errors out, and when I
>>play the song in my Windows Media, the "Save" option isn't available.
>>I'd try to save in Real Player, but I can't get the file to play in
>>anything other than WMP.
>>
>>I thought someone mentioned that they had saved "Karma" on their
>>computer, so I thought I'd ask about it. I've never had a problem saving
>>a file before! Am I doing something wrong, or does NPR.org have a block
>>on saving their files?
>>
>>Cory (aka. Europa)
>>
>>"When I played poker last night with a pack of Tarot cards, I got a full
>>house and four people died." ~Steven Wright
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the scoop.
_________________________________________________________________
From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has
it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:57:15 -0700
From: John McJunkin <johnmcjunkin@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Alloy: NPR Songs
Unfortunately, NPR has it set up so that it can only be played, but
not saved. The only solution is to literally record it on your end,
and there are any number of freeware or shareware utilities that will
enable you to do so.
On Jan 4, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Cory Stickel wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm totally daft, but how can I save "Your Karma..." from NPR's
> website? When I right-click to save the link, it errors out, and
> when I
> play the song in my Windows Media, the "Save" option isn't available.
> I'd try to save in Real Player, but I can't get the file to play in
> anything other than WMP.
>
> I thought someone mentioned that they had saved "Karma" on their
> computer, so I thought I'd ask about it. I've never had a problem
> saving
> a file before! Am I doing something wrong, or does NPR.org have a
> block
> on saving their files?
>
> Cory (aka. Europa)
>
> "When I played poker last night with a pack of Tarot cards, I got a
> full
> house and four people died." ~Steven Wright
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
> The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the
> scoop.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:00:39 -0700
From: John McJunkin <johnmcjunkin@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves: Inorganic vs. organic
Wow, James! UBER-lurker!
Great first post, BTW.
jm
On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:04 PM, James Quigley wrote:
>
> I agree with Beth that the vocals sound a bit more put-upon and
> tired, and I
> think that's a good thing. I've always felt that the song reflects the
> results of some grand experiment that failed, and the researcher is
> trying
> to come to grips with the failure. In the newer version, though,
> what I have
> really come to appreciate after several listens is the fairly
> distinctive
> contrast among the inorganic and organic components that make up
> the entire
> essence of the song. I realize that TMDR's non-ringtone career has
> pretty
> much consisted of doing just that--coaxing a compelling emotional
> experience
> out of electronic boxes--but in this instance the overall effect
> just feels
> more pronounced to me.
>
> The drumbox is very repetitive and very mechanical, and simply
> provides the
> beat for the duration of the song. It's completely inorganic--a
> piece of
> machinery doing its job. The slight monotony of the beat helps to
> push the
> song along a bit, but that's about it. The more accessible, warmer
> tones of
> the keyboards provide (for me) a bridge between the percussion and the
> vocals. The notes, especially the extended minor second that
> underlies the
> introductory melody, sound wholly electronic, but there still
> exists an
> overall feeling to them that allows the listener to get lost in the
> soundscape. It's electronic sound--inorganic--but nevertheless it
> exudes a
> nearly tangible warmth that helps draw the listener in. Ultimately,
> though,
> the vocals are what truly make the track work as well as it does in
> both
> versions, but most especially in this new incarnation. The sparse
> nature of
> the vocals--exceedingly clear and free of discernible effects--is
> complemented by the world-weariness and vulnerability that Beth
> mentioned.
> TMDR sounds tired (which I am quite sure he was), and resigned to the
> results of the failed experiment. For me, though, there is an ever
> so slight
> optimism contained in the lyrics that give the impression that another
> experiment may be forthcoming after sufficient rest and a gathering of
> thoughts. The experiment that is the song itself, however, is a
> complete and
> utter success.
>
> Your mileage may vary. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
>
> (Sorry for rambling. It's late.)
>
> --James Q
> aka Sasquatch
>
>
> NB--After having been an Alloy member off and on since 1996 (I have
> the
> t-shirt!), as best I can recall this is quite possibly my first
> posting.
> Some of us are a little slower than others...
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:27:01 -0600
From: Patrick McMillan <director@tmdaexhibits.com>
Subject: Re: getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs
A rather Rube Goldbergian hack:
If you have two computers you can stream it from one and connect a
cable from the 1st computer's audio out, or headphone jack into
the second computer's audio in, or mic jack. Set up the 2nd computer
to record: On a mac this would be using the Voice Over Utility app, or
iMovie, or Finalcut, Logic etc.. On a PC this would be Premiere,
Avid, Acid....I'm sure the list goes on but I don't know PC's too well.
But wouldn't you all rather wait until TMDR releases it officially on
his site or itunes?
It'll sound a whole lot better.
On Jan 5, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Brian Price wrote:
>
> I've been trying to do the same thing, but I've had zero success as
> of yet. A friend told me audacity.com has a free player that will
> record that audio stream, but it hasn't worked for me. I'd also
> love to have a copy for my personal use because sooner or later NPR
> will take down those links. If anyone else has a solution I'd love
> to hear it too. :)
>
> Brian
>
>> From: <graham.maureen@sympatico.ca>
>> Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org
>> To: alloy@smoe.org
>> Subject: getting mp3 copies of Alloy: NPR Songs
>> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:29:42 +0000
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>> like Cory I don't know how to convert these windows files to mp3
>> on my old mac
>> if anyone has done this already i'd love to have a copy
>>
>> graham
>> graham.maureen@sympatico.ca
>>
>>> From: "Cory Stickel" <crstickel@hotmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org
>>> To: alloy@smoe.org
>>> Subject: Alloy: NPR Songs
>>> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:46:06 -0500
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm totally daft, but how can I save "Your Karma..." from
>>> NPR's
>>> website? When I right-click to save the link, it errors out, and
>>> when I
>>> play the song in my Windows Media, the "Save" option isn't
>>> available.
>>> I'd try to save in Real Player, but I can't get the file to play in
>>> anything other than WMP.
>>>
>>> I thought someone mentioned that they had saved "Karma" on their
>>> computer, so I thought I'd ask about it. I've never had a
>>> problem saving
>>> a file before! Am I doing something wrong, or does NPR.org have
>>> a block
>>> on saving their files?
>>>
>>> Cory (aka. Europa)
>>>
>>> "When I played poker last night with a pack of Tarot cards, I got
>>> a full
>>> house and four people died." ~Steven Wright
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>>
>>> The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes is here. Get all the
>>> scoop.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>> From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden
>> Globes has
> it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1
Patrick McMillan
Toxey/McMillan Design Associates
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fax 206-339-3394
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to work, school, & the market.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:31:21 -0500
From: "Thurlow, Robin" <rthurlow@binghamton.edu>
Subject: RE: Alloy: Viva la Synth Revolution!
Crackers, I love what you've done with it. What a great image. I want
stickers!
xxxxxx
~robin
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:53:31 -0700
From: Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
I could have brought it to you. The Zicam web site said Charlotte NC has something going around, and I spent some time in a mall there last week.
My cold is not too bad, just some chest conjestion. I'm still up and about, no fever.
I do think some Thai soup takeout tonight may be the medicine I need to get me over this.
- -Keith
- -----Original Message-----
From: "Melissa Jordan" <merujo_sai@yahoo.com>
To: alloy@smoe.org
Sent: 1/5/07 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Keith, I will feel terrible if it turns out I gave this to you! I'm so sick now, I've been off work all week. (All week = three days, thanks to New Year's Day and the Ford funeral.) I woke up so freakishly feverish early this morning, my hair was soaking wet. Major suckage. Off to see the doctor shortly. I see antibiotics in my future...
Melissa
http://merujo.blogspot.com
Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com> wrote: This sole inhabitant is getting a bit tired of the white city of Denver.
No drug cathedral here, just a bottle of Nyquil to fight off this cold I picked up somewhere between NC and CO.
- -Keith
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:53:04 -0700
From: Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
I woke up this morning with the lyric 'be in my podcast, when this is over. Lend me your shoulder, I need a place to wait for buffering'
Damn Nyquil does things to your head.
- -----Original Message-----
From: "Keith Stansell" <Keith@Stansell.com>
To: alloy@smoe.org
Sent: 1/5/07 12:43 AM
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
I think his vocals sound a bit like the cold he had earlier is still lingering.
For some reason, I think this song could apply to the internet age. YouTube comes to mind. 'People only feed the airwaves' or bandwidth as is the case now.
This sole inhabitant is getting a bit tired of the white city of Denver.
No drug cathedral here, just a bottle of Nyquil to fight off this cold I picked up somewhere between NC and CO.
- -Keith
- -----Original Message-----
From: "Beth Meyer" <bethmeyer@mindspring.com>
To: alloy@smoe.org
Sent: 1/4/07 9:13 PM
Subject: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Hi, all;
(Great image, Crackers!)
So, am I the only one who has been playing the version of "Airwaves" from
NPR at almost every opportunity? I really love how that came out. It seems
much more intimate and vulnerable and just a bit world-weary than the
version on my copy of GAO.
What really gave me this feeling from it was how his voice sounded, though I
suppose the more spare arrangement also contributed. But it just seems
oddly richer with a more mature voice. It's not quite so extreme a
contrast, but it reminded me of the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt." When I
heard it sung by Trent Reznor, I kinda thought, "Oh, go whine to your
analyst already." But the Johnny Cash version was just emotionally
breathtaking.
Oh, well, just an idle thought as we prepare for more snow in Colorado (!).
- -Beth M.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:22:12 -0600
From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" <mizmusic@mts.net>
Subject: Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Beth wrote affectionately,
>
> From: Beth Meyer <bethmeyer@mindspring.com>
> Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 10:13:52 CST
> To: alloy@smoe.org
> Subject: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
>
>
> Hi, all;
>
> (Great image, Crackers!)
>
> So, am I the only one who has been playing the version of "Airwaves" from
> NPR at almost every opportunity? I really love how that came out. It seems
> much more intimate and vulnerable and just a bit world-weary than the
> version on my copy of GAOW.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
To my ears, the new "Airwaves" [and "Your Karma Hit My Dogma"] are like pencil
sketches--they need to be colored-in, so to speak. I haven't been listening to the new "Airwaves", Beth and everyone, 'cause it doesn't grab me. It needs to
be perfected in the Shed. Both new songs do. To my ears, they're not finished.
They're like thin pieces of rough wood--they need smoothing off, and about 20
more "layers" before I'll be able to evaluate them properly. TMDR got passable
versions of both put together "on the road", I think, and I have to say that I
can hardly wait to hear what he'll do with them now that he's back home. :^)
I don't doubt that I'm too used to the polished perfection of the "Sole
Inhabitant" CD, but I think that stands as a perfect example of what TMDR can
achieve when he really gets a chance to get into Le Funky Shed and produce the
heck out of his music. That 22 hours of Shedification for the S.I. CD was SO
worth it. :^)
Love and ears that have been spoiled rotten by TMDR's perfect production [mine],
Kara
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
> What really gave me this feeling from it was how his voice sounded, though I
> suppose the more spare arrangement also contributed. But it just seems
> oddly richer with a more mature voice. It's not quite so extreme a
> contrast, but it reminded me of the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt." When I
> heard it sung by Trent Reznor, I kinda thought, "Oh, go whine to your
> analyst already." But the Johnny Cash version was just emotionally
> breathtaking.
>
> Oh, well, just an idle thought as we prepare for more snow in Colorado (!).
>
> -Beth M.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:35:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Melissa Jordan <merujo_sai@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Just my $0.02 worth, but I'll jump into the discussion, too. I really like the new "Airwaves." I love the sparseness of it, which really does speak to me of the background story I have in my head. The simplicity of it works so well, it doesn't seem to need any additional color or production to perfect it. Not to sound trite, but sometimes, less really is more.
As for "Karma" - wait until you hear it live in a club where the bass will thump right through you like a freaking freight train. It's fantastic.
Cheers,
Melissa
http://merujo.blogspot.com
"Kara R. Laidlaw" <mizmusic@mts.net> wrote: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
To my ears, the new "Airwaves" [and "Your Karma Hit My Dogma"] are like pencil
sketches--they need to be colored-in, so to speak. I haven't been listening to the new "Airwaves", Beth and everyone, 'cause it doesn't grab me. It needs to
be perfected in the Shed. Both new songs do. To my ears, they're not finished.
They're like thin pieces of rough wood--they need smoothing off, and about 20
more "layers" before I'll be able to evaluate them properly. TMDR got passable
versions of both put together "on the road", I think, and I have to say that I
can hardly wait to hear what he'll do with them now that he's back home. :^)
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------------------------------
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:38:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Melissa Jordan <merujo_sai@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: NPR Airwaves: Inorganic vs. organic
Hmmm... do I say "Welcome!" to the 10-year-lurker? (Or do we have a special lapel pin for that?)
Regardless, heck of a first post, James. Thanks for sharing this. I wish I could have put my thoughts about "Airwaves" this well.
Cheers,
Melissa
James Quigley <jamesq@erols.com> wrote: The drumbox is very repetitive and very mechanical, and simply provides the
beat for the duration of the song. It's completely inorganic--a piece of
machinery doing its job. The slight monotony of the beat helps to push the
song along a bit, but that's about it. The more accessible, warmer tones of
the keyboards provide (for me) a bridge between the percussion and the
vocals. The notes, especially the extended minor second that underlies the
introductory melody, sound wholly electronic, but there still exists an
overall feeling to them that allows the listener to get lost in the
soundscape. It's electronic sound--inorganic--but nevertheless it exudes a
nearly tangible warmth that helps draw the listener in. Ultimately, though,
the vocals are what truly make the track work as well as it does in both
versions, but most especially in this new incarnation. The sparse nature of
the vocals--exceedingly clear and free of discernible effects--is
complemented by the world-weariness and vulnerability that Beth mentioned.
TMDR sounds tired (which I am quite sure he was), and resigned to the
results of the failed experiment. For me, though, there is an ever so slight
optimism contained in the lyrics that give the impression that another
experiment may be forthcoming after sufficient rest and a gathering of
thoughts. The experiment that is the song itself, however, is a complete and
utter success.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:43:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Melissa Jordan <merujo_sai@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Viva la Synth Revolution!
This is awesome, Crackers! I'd like to see that posted by the dozens on some construction sites in downtown DC. A little guerilla art project. Just to make people wonder.
Actually, if I had the mad deee-signin' skillz, I'd take your image and post it over one of my old photos of a Lenin statue in Moscow. "Lenin hails a cab" could become "Dolby rocks the Kremlin"... ;-)
"C.D. Cracknell" <bcracknell@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Thomas recently sent me a very dynamic photo of him playing his (now my)
Casio AZ-1 controller. I couldn't help but manipulate it a bit with
Photoshop to pump up the awesome.
http://www.ghastlycomic.com/promotional/TD_casio.gif
Crackers
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:18:46 -0700
From: Keith Stansell <Keith@Stansell.com>
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
I woke up this morning with the lyric 'be in my podcast, when this is over. Lend me your shoulder, I need a place to wait for buffering'
Damn Nyquil does things to your head.
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From: "Keith Stansell" <Keith@Stansell.com>
To: alloy@smoe.org
Sent: 1/5/07 12:43 AM
Subject: RE: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
I think his vocals sound a bit like the cold he had earlier is still lingering.
For some reason, I think this song could apply to the internet age. YouTube comes to mind. 'People only feed the airwaves' or bandwidth as is the case now.
This sole inhabitant is getting a bit tired of the white city of Denver.
No drug cathedral here, just a bottle of Nyquil to fight off this cold I picked up somewhere between NC and CO.
- -Keith
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From: "Beth Meyer" <bethmeyer@mindspring.com>
To: alloy@smoe.org
Sent: 1/4/07 9:13 PM
Subject: Alloy: NPR Airwaves version
Hi, all;
(Great image, Crackers!)
So, am I the only one who has been playing the version of "Airwaves" from
NPR at almost every opportunity? I really love how that came out. It seems
much more intimate and vulnerable and just a bit world-weary than the
version on my copy of GAO.
What really gave me this feeling from it was how his voice sounded, though I
suppose the more spare arrangement also contributed. But it just seems
oddly richer with a more mature voice. It's not quite so extreme a
contrast, but it reminded me of the Nine Inch Nails song "Hurt." When I
heard it sung by Trent Reznor, I kinda thought, "Oh, go whine to your
analyst already." But the Johnny Cash version was just emotionally
breathtaking.
Oh, well, just an idle thought as we prepare for more snow in Colorado (!).
- -Beth M.
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