From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V11 #140 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, May 29 2006 Volume 11 : Number 140 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Musical plaigiarism case? (Totally OT) [Elaine ] Re: Alloy: MP3s suck or not? [Elaine ] Re: Alloy: Musical plaigiarism case? (Totally OT) [Crackers Subject: Alloy: Musical plaigiarism case? (Totally OT) This is between Tom Petty & the Chili Peppers. It's all explained in the clip. What do you think? http://www.wgmd.com/SOUNDS/FEATURES/051706-petty.mp3 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Subject: Re: Alloy: MP3s suck or not? Crackers, I think we have the same feelings about 'listening stages.' There was a time (B.C. - before children) when I'd actually sit down to listen and enjoy music for its own sake. But in the last decade, I've spent more time customizing my car to allow an mp3 player to connect to the sound system, and tweaking the playlist between kid music/my music, than I have sat & listened to my favorite artists for the enjoyment it gives me. I wonder if, had I not discovered TMDR when I had more free time, if I'd have delved so deep. I like to think so, but I've never thought about it before. John -- I was quoting some clown on the Internet, I think it was at Stereogum. It's dangerous to use Google to try and learn things sometimes. :) Unless you have recording engineers and musicians and other artists at your disposal on Alloy, that is. Now that I'm thinking about this, I remember having a discussion here years ago, wondering why my copy of Aliens sounded a little harsh on my house system. I had so much to learn. It sounds great on my current one! Melissa, I missed that interview -- how interesting. I wouldn't have thought it would be possible for the artist to hear his own work and dislike the output as sounding foreign. I appreciate all of your thoughts on the digital vs. analog debate. I remember Joe Strummer was a big champion of keeping the moving air alive..and I thought I understood why at the time, but now I'm really starting to get it more. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 14:58:29 -0400 From: Crackers Subject: Re: Alloy: Musical plaigiarism case? (Totally OT) Elaine wrote: > This is between Tom Petty & the Chili Peppers. It's all explained in the > clip. What do you think? > > http://www.wgmd.com/SOUNDS/FEATURES/051706-petty.mp3 > > Well, there is a thing called "the shotgun effect". We've got tens of thousands of musicians around the world writing songs using the western scale which has been used for centuries and only has a finite number of chord progressions. It's not going to be too outside the realm of the possible that two artists will hit the same target. Personally, I don't doubt that when Tom Petty and the Chili Peppers were writing their songs they were both being either consciously or subconsciously influenced by "Sweet Home Alabama". Crackers ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V11 #140 ****************************