From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V11 #46 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, February 18 2006 Volume 11 : Number 046 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Me again...but maybe I won't be here for much longer. ["Andy V] Re: Alloy: Me again :) ["keith dawe" ] RE: Alloy: Me again...but maybe I won't be here for much longer. ["Daniel] Alloy: You know, I'm sometimes just too hard on myself, that's all. :^) [] RE: Alloy: You know, I'm sometimes just too hard on myself, that's all. :^) ["Daniel Swan" ] Re: Alloy: Next SF show [Patrick McMillan ] Re: Alloy: Pandora ["A. van Lammeren" ] RE: Alloy: Next SF show ["Stephen Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: Next SF show--who's goin', eh? :^) ["Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Re: Alloy: Me again...but maybe I won't be here for much longer. Can I chip in with another PLEASE STAY :o) You're doing better here than I ever have! You just have to accept that mailing lists and forums are often one-way affairs where you toss in a comment for the sake of it and no-one is likely to reply unless you actually ask a question that someone may feel moved to help you with. It's not a very natural way to communicate, let's face it. I seem to be particularly adept at making posts that generate no discussion, I've come to accept that I'm just a boring git .. but at least no-one here has actually told me to ****** off. Yet ;o) Mind you, I did let myself down a bit when I joined, so I don't expect everyone to have forgiven me... and there's been a bit of a strange "nice at first, but now I'll ignore you" thing going on with someone here which I feel bad about - but I just hope that my all-to-frequent dumb-assed-ness will be overlooked one day, and she'll talk to me again perhaps. I often seem to end up in a position where there's no hard feelings at my end, but someone has written me off as a waste of space - which is a very special blend of hurt and embarrassment that makes me cringe. But hey, life goes on. Just because we all share one thing in common doesn't mean that we're all going to be best buddies! I try to hold my head high because I know I mean well, and that's that :o) Plus, I'm as guilty as anyone else at not adding much to the proceedings here.. all the more reason for you to stay and continue your contributions, please. With best wishes to all, Andy (the saddo with the geocities TMDR pages) ( I'm probably going to regret writing this too! ) - -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:34:39 -0500 From: "keith dawe" Subject: Re: Alloy: Me again :) Hello, Andy said: >I seem to be particularly adept at making posts that >generate no discussion You're not alone on that, brother! And your comments regarding the lack of response to others' e-mails was well said. In the early days I would be a little disappointed because a lack of a response made my feel was being left out of the conversation. Like my high school days when I didn't belong a to a particular clique. Those can be nasty memories to have pop up unexpectedly, but it's really not the people at Alloy's fault. And I'm much older now and see things here as being casual, very, very casual. 'What? You were expecting twenty people to respond to your post?' I would think to myself. Re-reading what I just wrote it almost sounds like I'm asking for pity. I'm just trying to say that Andy, Kara and everyone else is not alone in feeling that disconnect. We're reading your e-mails! You may not know it, but we are. I also remember years ago getting a very nice, private letter from a member at Alloy, who shall remain nameless, giving me unsolicited support and encouragement. It was one of the most nicest things anyone has ever done for me; I truly appreciated it. I hope that others have done (or will do) the same to someone else. Keith D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:32:31 -0700 From: "Daniel Swan" Subject: RE: Alloy: Me again...but maybe I won't be here for much longer. >I get the distinct feeling that I don't exactly fit in around here. So if >even one person would like me to unsubscribe, then I will. I don't want to >make a nuisance of myself. > Hi Kara, You shouldn't leave yourself at the mercy of the lowest common denominator, for it will always exist. I would like you to unsubsribe. Sined, Lowest common denominator. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:08:07 -0600 From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Alloy: You know, I'm sometimes just too hard on myself, that's all. :^) Hi, all you wonderful, loving people...:^) *And* Daniel Swan. I haven't read all of your warm, understanding replies to my gloomy post yet, but the ones I've read so far made me realize, yet again, that I don't need to fit in, I just need to be me, right? ;^) We're all here to love Thomas' music, and that is what we all have in common. It's not you, it's me!! Tee hee hee... ;^) I'm just one of those half-mad creative people, that's all. "What, ONLY half?" I hear you snicker...Acually, I'm only about 10% nutz. The rest is chocolate. ;^) Love and brain chemistry that's back to normal again after two days of gloom and mild, needless paranoia, ;^) Kara! :^) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:27:52 -0700 From: "Daniel Swan" Subject: RE: Alloy: You know, I'm sometimes just too hard on myself, that's all. :^) >Hi, all you wonderful, loving people...:^) *And* Daniel Swan. > >I haven't read all of your warm, understanding replies to my gloomy post >yet, but the ones I've >read so far made me realize, yet again, that I don't need to fit in, I just >need to be me, right? ;^) Well, if you *must* reneg on your earlier offer, I guess that's gonna hafta do :-) //No vested interest in your departure, just making mischief ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:21:02 -0600 From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: Me again...much perkier now! :^) Andy made me want to give him a hug when he wrote, > > From: "Andy Venables" > Date: 2006/02/17 Fri AM 04:31:16 CST > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Me again...but maybe I won't be here for much > longer. > > > Can I chip in with another PLEASE STAY :o) - ------------------------------ Well, uh, let me think...OK!!! :^) - ------------------------------ > You're doing better here than I ever have! - ------------------------------ Better fewer posts than more, I think. :^) I'm kind of all about quantity, not necessarily, uh, quality. ;^)And hey man, you have a website--I need to go check that out! Hmm, maybe I already have, without knowing it was *yours*! I was probably very impressed, too. :^) There are a lot more, and probably smarter, people on here who only post when they actually have something to say! And quite a few of you have websites--so you're one up on me! ;^) You know how it is--Thomas' wonderful music is all new to me! I'm like this perky little puppy, darting around, possibly piddling on things in my excitement... ;^) I hope all my barking isn't giving anyone a headache! ;^) - -------------------------------- > You just have to accept that mailing lists and > forums are often one-way affairs where you toss > in a comment for the sake of it and no-one is > likely to reply unless you actually ask a question > that someone may feel moved to help you with. > It's not a very natural way to communicate, let's > face it. - ---------------------------------- Yep, I'm seeing that now. Most of you loyal, loving Alloyites have been absorbing Thomas' marvellously-well-crafted music for a deliciously long time, and you've savored every nuance, and been blown away by it, and chatted admiringly about it on Alloy. And here's me, still drooling at all the layers of sounds and the incredible production--you don't get better music than Thomas', do you??!? :^) - ----------------------------------- > I seem to be particularly adept at making posts that > generate no discussion, I've come to accept that > I'm just a boring git .. but at least no-one here > has actually told me to ****** off. > > Yet ;o) - ------------------------------------ If anyone dared, they would be liberally smeared with Vaseline and feathers in short order, I think. ;^) - ------------------------------------ > Mind you, I did let myself down a bit when I joined, > so I don't expect everyone to have forgiven me... > and there's been a bit of a strange "nice at first, > but now I'll ignore you" thing going on with someone > here which I feel bad about - but I just hope that my > all-to-frequent dumb-assed-ness will be overlooked > one day, and she'll talk to me again perhaps. > I often seem to end up in a position where there's > no hard feelings at my end, but someone has > written me off as a waste of space - which is a > very special blend of hurt and embarrassment that > makes me cringe. - ------------------------------- I feel your pain--I'd like to chat more with you about this, but I shall do that person to person, ok? I think we've both had some bad experiences, and that can tend to make one a little paranoid...at least, it does me. - -------------------------------- > But hey, life goes on. Just because we all share one > thing in common doesn't mean that we're all going to > be best buddies! I try to hold my head high because > I know I mean well, and that's that :o) - -------------------------------- Right on!!! :^) - -------------------------------- > ( I'm probably going to regret writing this too! ) - --------------------------------- Oh, I hope you didn't! If these fine people can put up with my emotional instability, then you, being wayyyyyy more stable (at least, you seem it, although it must be said that I don't really *know* you yet) ;^), shouldn't be too taxing on them. ;^) Love and cool vocoder effects, Kooky Kara! :^) - --------------------------------- It's All About the Music. :^) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:26:02 -0500 From: Brian Daniels Subject: Alloy: Next SF show Ok, trying this again. Is anyone else planning on going to the March 9th show in San Francisco? I can't believe I'm going to be the only Alloyite there... - --Brian - -- I think my life is fuller because I realize that I don't know what I'm doing. I'm delighted with the width of the world! ---Richard Feynman Brian Daniels bitmage@bellsouth.net http://www.eviloverlord.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:37:26 -0800 From: Patrick McMillan Subject: Re: Alloy: Next SF show I'm going to Texas that week dammit! I'm there in spirit though. Patrick On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Brian Daniels wrote: > > Ok, trying this again. > > Is anyone else planning on going to the March 9th show in San > Francisco? I > can't believe I'm going to be the only Alloyite there... > > --Brian > > -- > I think my life is fuller because I realize > that I don't know what I'm doing. > I'm delighted with the width of the world! > ---Richard Feynman > > > Brian Daniels bitmage@bellsouth.net > http://www.eviloverlord.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:00:07 +0100 From: "A. van Lammeren" Subject: Re: Alloy: Pandora Hi all -oyites, I myself wrote earlier: >> I think I was the second to join the alloy-group-station. But after >> two numbers it "ran out of content"... Didn't know how to add any. >> Peter? Peter wrote, 11-2-2006 11:27 uur: > The group needs more members and more of them uploading their > listener data. Did you download the plugin for winamp? Yes,... but today I figured out that I need WinAmp5, and my old PC is still on WinAmp 2.81... (Oh, i wish I never got to learn those different version issues...) I'll hope to give it a go again soon and my new PC soon... Listening now to the Tokyo and London mix of Fieldwork through that same old WinAmp, and it sounds great! Found a nice Thomas Dolby review here: http://siart.blogspot.com/2004_09_01_siart_archive.html Scroll down to September 26th. (Hey! Bryan Ferry's birthday!... Kara: if you're still looking for more multi-layered music..., try him; or, less deep, I think, but much more rough edged, weep-wash-sqeepy -varied is an english term?- (the old) Roxy Music!!!) Me again in past: << last.fm >> has this "mechanic feeling", for me though. With no >> real person introducing or telling some strange tid-bits around and >> about the music. > Peter: > I actually like that. Sometimes I really can't handle iterruption > and, worse, "zaniness" from radio presenters. No ads breaks for local > carpet warehouses either. Always a plus. Well, you're right. Certainly about the local carpet warehouses! :-))) Still, have you tried Reecey's show? He has strange add-ons, but often enjoyable... He has been a UK pop quiz winner I think, this gives you a clue of what sort of info he's telling. There is a sample of him here: http://www.avl.dds.nl/JReece_Frantic.mp3 But then again... who likes Roxy Music? The Frantic-band he's talking about is a Dutch Bryan Ferry tribute band. http://www.frantic-band.nl I digress, but you never know if Elaine's bother-in-law might join in their next concert February 25th, near Rotterdam... Tara, Anton Percept without concept is blind. Concept without percept is empty. - -- Unknown ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:02:20 -0800 From: "Stephen Tilson" Subject: RE: Alloy: Next SF show Brian: So far, and to the best of my knowledge, attendees are: You Mary & I Jeff F. Monya Non-alloyite, but Dolby-friendly friend-o-mine, Chris Michael Brian Clayton (unconfirmed) This Thursday night show doesn't begin until after 10 and doors close at 4AM, so it's anyone's guess when the headlining TMDR will actually take the stage. I think it's safe to assume, with two other acts on the billing, that it will be 'round midnight. Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Brian Daniels > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:26 AM > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Alloy: Next SF show > > > > Ok, trying this again. > > Is anyone else planning on going to the March 9th show in San Francisco? > I > can't believe I'm going to be the only Alloyite there... > > --Brian > > -- > I think my life is fuller because I realize > that I don't know what I'm doing. > I'm delighted with the width of the world! > ---Richard Feynman > > > Brian Daniels bitmage@bellsouth.net > http://www.eviloverlord.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:42:17 -0600 From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Re: Alloy: Next SF show--who's goin', eh? :^) Brian wrote, in understandable confusion, > From: Brian Daniels > Date: 2006/02/17 Fri PM 01:26:02 CST > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Alloy: Next SF show > > > Ok, trying this again. > > Is anyone else planning on going to the March 9th show in San Francisco? I > can't believe I'm going to be the only Alloyite there... > --Brian > > -- > I think my life is fuller because I realize > that I don't know what I'm doing. > I'm delighted with the width of the world! > ---Richard Feynman > > > Brian Daniels bitmage@bellsouth.net > http://www.eviloverlord.net > - --------------------------------- I sure wish I COULD go! Boo hoo hoo... ;^) Oh well, what can ya do?! I guess there will be a whole WHACK of rather jealous Alloyites hovering over your head in spirit, me included! ;^) Hey, enjoy the show for us, Brian. :^) Actually, I don't think you will be the *only* Alloyite there...Mr. Dolby Robertson is still an Alloyite, isn't he?! Tee hee! [That's a rhetorical question...]Actually, I think your fellow Alloysters will be going in stealth mode for some reason. ;^) Love and cloaking technology, Kara :^) - --------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:52:42 -0600 From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: Pandora, he wrote Frantically... Anton wrote, WinAmpishly, :^) > From: "A. van Lammeren" > Date: 2006/02/17 Fri PM 04:00:07 CST > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Pandora > > > Hi all -oyites, > > I myself wrote earlier: > >> I think I was the second to join the alloy-group-station. But after > >> two numbers it "ran out of content"... Didn't know how to add any. > >> Peter? > > Peter wrote, 11-2-2006 11:27 uur: > > The group needs more members and more of them uploading their > > listener data. Did you download the plugin for winamp? > > Yes,... but today I figured out that I need WinAmp5, and my old PC is > still on WinAmp 2.81... (Oh, i wish I never got to learn those different > version issues...) > I'll hope to give it a go again soon and my new PC soon... > > Listening now to the Tokyo and London mix of Fieldwork through that same > old WinAmp, and it sounds great! > > Found a nice Thomas Dolby review here: > http://siart.blogspot.com/2004_09_01_siart_archive.html > Scroll down to September 26th. > (Hey! Bryan Ferry's birthday!... Kara: if you're still looking for more > multi-layered music..., try him; or, less deep, I think, but much more > rough edged, weep-wash-sqeepy -varied is an english term?- (the old) > Roxy Music!!!) - ---------------------------------- Funny you should say that, Anton--I LOVE Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music!! I have all of R.M.'s albums on cassette, and am seriously thinking of buying them all on CD. You're right--his and their music is in fact comparable to our actually incomparable Mr. Dolby Robertson's! I absolutely crave that sort of lushness that only comes when a musician knows how to take about a billion different tracks, and put them together into a velvety ear-caress. :^) - ---------------------------------- > But then again... who likes Roxy Music? - --------------------------------- I do! I do! :^) Love and Frantic hand-waving, Kara - --------------------------------- > The Frantic-band he's talking > about is a Dutch Bryan Ferry tribute band. http://www.frantic-band.nl > I digress, but you never know if Elaine's bother-in-law might join in > their next concert February 25th, near Rotterdam... > > Tara, Anton > > > Percept without concept is blind. Concept without percept is empty. > -- Unknown ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V11 #46 ***************************