From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V11 #37 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, February 9 2006 Volume 11 : Number 037 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re: Alloy: The alternate universes inside music... ["Kara R. Laidlaw"] Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) ["Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: The alternate universes inside music... John expressed himself bravely: > From: > Date: 2006/02/07 Tue PM 01:59:37 CST > To: > Subject: Re: Alloy: OT: Nobody Wang Chung Tonight (this will hurt, John) > > > I'm just sitting here agog and feeling like I've been hit by a truck. ____________________________________ I feel your pain, John--if I had a voice right now, I'd be howling (I have laryngitis right now, though, but I'm howling inside...) You're no elitist snob, John--you're a music lover, and the world and its musicians would be a better place if more people had the capacity to love and understand and defend musical sophistication the way that you do. I honestly believe that, for most people [obviously those who are not Dolby fans], music is no more than audial wallpaper--just kind of *there*. It's as though they can only hear in black and white--they simply lack the mental software, so to speak, to be able to hear all the nuances of the music. To appreciate how hard the musician works to liberate the music that's inside his or her head--I just about fell down dead when I first heard "Gothic"; it took me DAYS to get my dropped jaw back into place, and I thought, "How could Thomas have all of this inside his HEAD??!?!?" His music makes me cry, and I don't cry easily. But he just touches me deep inside, in a place no one else has ever reached, nor ever could. That's not an easy admission for me to make, because I've led a very, very hard life, and therefore it's difficult for me to admit I feel anything at all. The only reason I'm admitting it now is because I think I have a mild fever, and am therefore a tiny bit uninhibited. It's still the truth, though. I don't blame most people for their "Top-40" perceptions--I pity them. There's a whole other world of musical wonder out there that they are incapable of perceiving. If they cannot get beyond "She Blinded Me...", I really, truly, honestly feel sorry for them, cause their knees will never go weak upon first hearing "Cloudburst At Shingle Street" the way mine did. It's a whole other world, you know? It's like an alternate universe, and...I'm sorry--I'm recovering from a bad virus, and I'm a little emotionally raw right now. I'm not thinking as much as I'm feeling. But suffice it to say, I totally agree with everything that John has said, because it's the way I feel, too, and have felt for as long as I can remember. ________________________________ I'm frankly not surprised by this, but it still blows. This is not the first time in history when excellent musical artisans with sophisticated fare manage to crack the top 40, but wind up with very few fans and no commercial future, because 95% of the music-buying public simply lack the musical sophistication to comprehend their excellent work. _________________________________ Thank you, John, for being brave enough to express yourself--and yes, I love Wang Chung's music, too. That emotionally wrenching situation that Melissa told us about absolutely broke my heart. That's like my worst nightmare about what could ever happen to genuinely talented musicians like Mr. Feldman and Mr. Hues. But it's a [#%$*~+^] Top-40 world, so what are ya gonna do? All any of us can do is just appreciate wonderful music as made by incredibly gifted musicians like Mr. Thomas Morgan Dolby Robertson. It's almost as though a hit single is the worst thing that can happen to a musician, because then everyone expects them to do more songs like the hit, and the hit was usually just some fluky thing that is entirely different from the rest of their body of work. That happens a lot, and I have absolutely no freakin' idea why, and it's incredibly unjust. Love and raw emotions, Kara __________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:40:01 -0600 From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) 'Allo 'allo! :^) In case any of y'all were wondering, no, I wasn't all hopped up on a "fistful of coldrex" when I wrote my last post. I said what I meant, and I meant what I said. I'm full of orange juice and Chinese food [mmmm, spicy], with not a speck of any kind of meds to be found forensically in my system. Yeah, maybe I should try taking some, huh?! ;^) Speaking of which, just what the heck is or was coldrex anyway?! And what might happen if you ingested a fistful of it?? ;^) Nothing good, I assume. If you took said coldrex with fruit juice, and then the whole lot came back up, then you'd have "fruit juice everywhere". ;^) Yarg!!! Yeah, I know--the subject matter of "Weightless" is doubtless a good deal heavier than what I'm making of it, but I'm trying to cheer y'all up, not bring ya down! :^) If ya wanna try some lyric interpretation, I could go on for about a week. But then I'd be worried that I was hitting too close to the mark, and I wouldn't want our Mr. Dolby to read my interpretations and be squirming! ;^) I am NOT making fun of Thomas' lyrics--he writes the most incredible lyrics, and I would never, ever, EVER make fun of them. I'm feeling much better now--downright perky, in fact, after having had a near-death experience over the past three days or so. Here's hoping that everyone who reads this is healthy and happy! :^) Love and pondering the imponderable, Kooky Kara! :^) It's All About the Music. :^) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:58:17 -0800 (PST) From: Melissa Jordan Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) Coldrex: http://gsk.co.nz/consumer_product.asp?groupId=5&PageID=786 Probably like Sudafed or Tylenol Cough and Cold. "Kara R. Laidlaw" wrote: Speaking of which, just what the heck is or was coldrex anyway?! And what might happen if you ingested a fistful of it?? ;^) Nothing good, I assume. If you took said coldrex with fruit juice, and then the whole lot came back up, then you'd have "fruit juice everywhere". - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:19:19 -0600 From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) Melissa informed us helpfully, :^) > From: Melissa Jordan > Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 06:58:17 CST > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) > > > Coldrex: http://gsk.co.nz/consumer_product.asp?groupId=5&PageID=786 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& So it still exists, then! Gee, I wish I had some right now. ;^) Thanks for the info, Melissa!! :^) Hmmm, now, what other obscure Thomas-song-lyrics can we think of? ;^) How about "'Hey Fritzi', they're calling up to me" from "Commercial Breakup?" Another Thomas nickname, do we suppose? And what *about* his symphony? :^) Love and interesting brandnames, Koughing Kara, lover of lyrics!!! :^) &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& > Probably like Sudafed or Tylenol Cough and Cold. > > "Kara R. Laidlaw" wrote: > Speaking of which, just what the heck is or was coldrex anyway?! And what might happen if you ingested a fistful of it?? ;^) Nothing good, I assume. If you took said coldrex with fruit juice, and then the whole lot came back up, then you'd have "fruit juice everywhere". > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > It's All About the Music. :^) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:26:11 -0800 (PST) From: Melissa Jordan Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) Of course, when TMDR wrote "Weightless," likely there weren't all those varieties of Coldrex. "Fistful of non-drowsy, head and chest cold Coldrex..." Hmm... that doesn't quite scan... - Melissa http://merujo.blogspot.com Melissa Jordan wrote: Coldrex: http://gsk.co.nz/consumer_product.asp?groupId=5&PageID=786 Probably like Sudafed or Tylenol Cough and Cold. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:33:40 -0700 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) Hi, Kara; Actually, I remember the source of the "Hey Franzi" line. There was apparently a commercial in which Franz Schubert was in the process of composing a symphony, and then his friends showed up down on the street and called up to him, "Hey Franzi..." and basically invited him to go party with them (never saw the commercial, so I don't remember the words). When he saw that they had Brand X Beer, he immediately stopped what he was doing and went to get his coat. When his wife or maid or whoever asked him, "What about the symphony?" he responded, "Let it remain unfinished!" So the "'Hey Franzi,' they're calling up to me" line in "Commercial Breakup" was a reference to this commercial. - -Beth "Kara R. Laidlaw" wrote: > > Melissa informed us helpfully, :^) > > > From: Melissa Jordan > > Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 06:58:17 CST > > To: alloy@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) > > > > > > Coldrex: http://gsk.co.nz/consumer_product.asp?groupId=5&PageID=786 > > &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& > So it still exists, then! Gee, I wish I had some right now. ;^) Thanks for the info, Melissa!! :^) > > Hmmm, now, what other obscure Thomas-song-lyrics can we think of? ;^) How about "'Hey Fritzi', they're calling up to me" from "Commercial Breakup?" Another Thomas nickname, do we suppose? And what *about* his symphony? :^) > > Love and interesting brandnames, > Koughing Kara, lover of lyrics!!! :^) > &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:53:02 -0700 From: John McJunkin Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) Isn't that "Franzi?" hee hee jm On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:19 PM, Kara R. Laidlaw wrote: > > Melissa informed us helpfully, :^) > >> From: Melissa Jordan >> Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 06:58:17 CST >> To: alloy@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) >> >> >> Coldrex: http://gsk.co.nz/consumer_product.asp?groupId=5&PageID=786 > > &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& > So it still exists, then! Gee, I wish I had some right now. ;^) > Thanks for the info, Melissa!! :^) > > Hmmm, now, what other obscure Thomas-song-lyrics can we think > of? ;^) How about "'Hey Fritzi', they're calling up to me" from > "Commercial Breakup?" Another Thomas nickname, do we suppose? And > what *about* his symphony? :^) > > Love and interesting brandnames, > Koughing Kara, lover of lyrics!!! :^) > &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& > > >> Probably like Sudafed or Tylenol Cough and Cold. >> >> "Kara R. Laidlaw" wrote: >> Speaking of which, just what the heck is or was coldrex anyway?! >> And what might happen if you ingested a fistful of it?? ;^) >> Nothing good, I assume. If you took said coldrex with fruit juice, >> and then the whole lot came back up, then you'd have "fruit juice >> everywhere". >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. >> > > It's All About the Music. :^) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:55:40 -0700 From: John McJunkin Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) Beth, How UNBELIEVABLY cool that you knew that! I've tended to only lurk here until recently, and I don't recall seeing discussions of lyrics, but I sure would love to see a lot more! Perhaps we can peel the glove full of vaseline from the iron fist for a better look. Cheers, jm On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Beth Meyer wrote: > > Hi, Kara; > > Actually, I remember the source of the "Hey Franzi" line. There was > apparently a commercial in which Franz Schubert was in the process of > composing a symphony, and then his friends showed up down on the > street > and called up to him, "Hey Franzi..." and basically invited him to go > party with them (never saw the commercial, so I don't remember the > words). When he saw that they had Brand X Beer, he immediately > stopped > what he was doing and went to get his coat. When his wife or maid or > whoever asked him, "What about the symphony?" he responded, "Let it > remain unfinished!" > > So the "'Hey Franzi,' they're calling up to me" line in "Commercial > Breakup" was a reference to this commercial. > > -Beth > > "Kara R. Laidlaw" wrote: >> >> Melissa informed us helpfully, :^) >> >>> From: Melissa Jordan >>> Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 06:58:17 CST >>> To: alloy@smoe.org >>> Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) >>> >>> >>> Coldrex: http://gsk.co.nz/consumer_product.asp?groupId=5&PageID=786 >> >> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& >> So it still exists, then! Gee, I wish I had some right now. ;^) >> Thanks for the info, Melissa!! :^) >> >> Hmmm, now, what other obscure Thomas-song-lyrics can we think >> of? ;^) How about "'Hey Fritzi', they're calling up to me" from >> "Commercial Breakup?" Another Thomas nickname, do we suppose? And >> what *about* his symphony? :^) >> >> Love and interesting brandnames, >> Koughing Kara, lover of lyrics!!! :^) >> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:35:08 -0600 From: "Kara R. Laidlaw" Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) John made me think "oops!" when he wrote, ;^) > From: John McJunkin > Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 09:53:02 CST > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Fistful of coldrex? Not here!! ;^) > > > Isn't that "Franzi?" Yup, you're right! [blush] I'm not quite 100% yet! ;^) I'm somewhere around 28%, I think. Aren't all Alloyites allowed one mangled lyric? ;^) But after that, out come the Vaseline and the gloves...and I've heard rumours about surreptitious, kinky uses for Spam as well--where do ya think those Spam tins came from?!? ;^) Love and weird, fetishistic rumors (hmmm, should that be rumours?) ;^) Kara the Kinkyish ;^) [Say, you know, if you ever wanna make me blush, just say "Ferrari". See, I'm blushing right now!!!!!! Oh drat, I should *not* have told you guys that. Now I'm in for it!!!] *^'^* <--sad attempt at blushing anime face--I don't really know how to do those!! ;^) > hee hee ******************************* Yeeeeee-HAW!!!!!!! ******************************* Love and quirky rumo(u)rs, Kara It's All About the Music. :^) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V11 #37 ***************************