From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V10 #85 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, November 28 2005 Volume 10 : Number 085 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: KATE BUSH [Elaine ] Re: Alloy: OT KATE BUSH [John McJunkin ] Re: Alloy: KATE BUSH [John McJunkin ] Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V10 #81 [John McJunkin ] Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V10 #81 [Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: KATE BUSH I've heard "Mrs. Bartolozzi" off the new album. Washing machine? Washing machine? Washing? Machine? Get that dirty shirty clean? ugh. Sorry, Kate. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:17:25 -0700 From: John McJunkin Subject: Re: Alloy: OT KATE BUSH Exactly, Robin. It may not be "the 80s" but any optimism is utterly welcome. Depression? Define it! Good luck. What some may deem depressing may be my optimistic future. Vulnerable innocence--my kingdom to reclaim that! Thanks for that thought! Best, John On Nov 26, 2005, at 11:17 PM, Robin Thurlow wrote: > > I love whatever Kate does, to varying degrees... I don't think I'd > be disappointed if the new record doesn't sound like her '80s music > (as she's never been one to stick with any particular style) I've > yet to hear the new one. Someone told me it was depressing, > because she seems so blindly optimistic in the work, in spite of > the fact that the good things she sings about will inevitably end. > There is a vulnerable innocence in it. Do you find that to be true? > > xxxx > ~r > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:12:33 -0700 From: John McJunkin Subject: Re: Alloy: KATE BUSH Russ, Don't be upset--in case Sweet Kate's album disappoints. Our sweet 80s are past. But the good news is that our fantastic Mr. Robertson has given us so much fabulous music that we can go away with several albums' worth of love. Listen to even "The Gate to the Mind's Eye." His abundant creativity arrives even here--regardless of the negative reviewers. It's true--"Moonbase" is poop by way of comparison, but compared to WHAT? The worst Thomas Dolby is better than the best Top 40 hit from the past three decades, no? This is a guy who grew up studying the best of Dave Brubeck and Oscar Peterson. I only WISH I could play the keys like our hero! Sure--Kate Bush is considered "the female Thomas Dolby." Just because they both had the first couple of Fairlights--that doesn't make them the same. My dear old buddy Jeff Harris and his compatriot Kevin sold Messrs. Dolby and Gabriel (whom I saw recently) their first Fairlights (not to mention Ms. Bush.) Big deal. There is no flavor like Thomas Dolby flavor. Don't compare Ms. Bush to our uber-mensch! She may whip up some very fine tunes, but they simply do not compare to those of the master, no? All the best, John On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Russell Milliner wrote: > > I got Aerial last week. I am a bit dissapointed. My opinion is that > it is not very 80's sounding at all, and nothing like the older stuff. > I would descibe it as very artsy and/or new age throughout most of > it. It may grow on me with time after a few more listens, but it is > so mellow it is difficult to stay awake throughout the album. > > -Russ > http://www.tmdrfan.com/ > > On 11/26/05, Paulo wrote: >> >> In the midst of impending HOB's concerts... >> >> ...I'd like to say to all 80's music fans that KATE BUSH >> has just released a new (double) album >> (after 13 years of silence). >> It is called AERIAL... >> (Well... couting THE GATE TO THE MIND'S EYE, >> then it is more or less almost the same time of our hero's absence) >> I still haven't heard AERIAL, but I've read that it is very 80's in >> "concept" >> (whatever this means). >> >> Her last one was THE RED SHOES >> released around 1992/3 >> with an (obvious) early 90's feel. >> >> (IMHO her worst album), >> being the best (in order of preference): >> >> 1 - NEVER FOR EVER 1980 >> 2 - LION HEART 1978 >> 3 - THE KICK INSIDE 1977 >> 4 - THE DREAMING 1982 >> 5 - HOUNDS OF LOVE 1985 >> 6 - THE SENSUAL WORLD 1989 >> >> > > > -- > -russell milliner > milliner@pobox.com > http://www.tmdrfan.com/russell/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:20:27 -0700 From: John McJunkin Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V10 #81 Dear Keith Stansell, In 1983-1984, I was a freshman at the University of Wyoming. I owned "The Golden Age Of Wireless" at the time, and in early 1984 when "The Flat Earth" came available, I sprung from my dorm room on Grand Avenue in Laramie, Wyoming to pile across the street to the local record store to purchase the sophomore effort of our beloved hero. I purchased both the cassette and the vinyl versions, considering that I'd want to hear it everywhere. I read somewhere that Mr. Dolby would be appearing at Pike's Peak Auditorium (in Colorado Springs--not far from you, young man!) in the spring of 1984 (shortly after my 18th birthday, in April, if memory serves.) Although I owned a sweet 1966 Ford pickup truck (a lovely gift from my father which would easily perambulate me to the venue,) I feared that my mother would be tremendously upset with me for leaving college at that moment and for expending the financial resources necessary to see this particular show. These negative thoughts did not prevent me from fantasizing about the possibility of meeting up with Mr. Robertson, but they did prevent me from pursuing the journey southward to see The Man. Among the handful of things in my life that fill me deeply with regret, this is one. And I don't take this lightly. This event (or lack thereof) weighs heavily on my conscience. Twenty-two years later, I am a well-paid audio journalist and engineer, vocations for which I owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to Thomas Morgan Dolby Robertson. I remember clearly (as though it were yesterday) an evening in the spring of 1984 on which I sat sullen, smoking cigarettes in my dorm room in Laramie, Wyoming, crushed over the fact that I should have jumped in my sweet old truck to drive south on I-25 to see Thomas Dolby play live. He never played close to me again, and I am devastated over that fact. I, resultantly, now have no intention of missing any remaining public performance in which our hero shall engage. I guess what I'm saying is that unless you've already seen him perform, I simply insist that you take whatever steps necessary to financially manage a trip to see The Man. I may have over-reached when implying that I might drop some cash to help you get to LA to see Mr. Dolby, but this is a worthwhile endeavor that you simply should not avoid. Please do not make the same terrible mistake that I once made a lifetime ago. I believe that my sweet wife and I will see all three scheduled dates, simply because live Thomas Dolby performances may never, ever happen again, for the remainder of human history. Are you willing to take that risk? Having lived in Arvada, CO, to the northeast of Denver, I could probably point you toward a bank that could be successfully robbed, but then I'd be complicit in a felony. Sell your children if it's necessary, Mr. Stansell. Does this sound overly dramatic? Ask me again in about 30 years, when I live in a lovely cabin near Jackson Hole, Wyoming. OK--now I'm being ridiculous, but please do anything and everything you can to make this happen. Begging you to do the right thing, (and hoping I'm not compelling anyone to commit any crimes, not to mention apologies for my diatribe) John F. McJunkin P.S. Love you all! Only good people love our TMDR. On Nov 26, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Keith Stansell wrote: > > No - no need to pitch in for a ticket for me - I could pitch in > myself if I wanted to. I'm just having trouble justifying paying > that much to see a concert (even TMDR). > > I'm not totally out yet - but I just went on a vacation last month > and I'm traveling to my brother's in North Carolina for Christmas, > so I just think perhaps I'm spending too much on travel lately. > > I'll check the fares again and think about it. > > -Keith > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelli Purple" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:10 AM > Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V10 #81 > > >> >> Longtime lurker coming out of the woodwork here. :-) >> >> I can't afford to fly from New Jersey for this event, myself, >> although I'd love to. While it's extremely kind to suggest people >> chip in to get Keith a plane ticket, you have to remember there >> are probably a lot of people on the list who would love to come >> for this event, but can't afford it this year. Like both Robin and >> Robyn, who have already said they can't make it. So, respectfully, >> I think, while your suggestion is extremely kind, it's not feasible. >> >> To all those who get to go - I hope you have a wonderful time, >> and I hope that Dolby is able to find some time to see you before >> or after these shows. A friend of mine who used to be on this list >> and got me hooked on Dolby in college is going, and I'm envious. >> >> Kelli, in cold New Jersey >> >> John McJunkin wrote: >> I only wish everyone could make it. Keith, you're breaking my >> heart. How much would it cost all of us to pitch in and get you from >> DIA to Orange County? I'm tempted to just drop the cash myself. >> This may be our last chance to see the master at work in real >> time-- sorry to introduce such an unhappy concept. My wife and I are >> debating the San Diego show. I will be at the NAMM convention in >> Anaheim the weekend prior, and I'm considering the possibility of >> taking a vacation day or two and just hanging out. A former student >> of mine works for Mark Mothersbaugh at the Mutato Muzika complex a >> few blocks from the Hollywood HOB and I've been threatening to >> visit. Perhaps this is the time. Whatever happens, let's all spend >> a sweet moment discussing the work of the master, eh? >> >> All the best, >> >> John >> >> >> On Nov 24, 2005, at 12:45 AM, Wargun2438@aol.com wrote: >> >>> >>> I have tickets for the fri dan sat night concerts for me and for >>> Ben. The >>> dinner reservations should be wonderful and useful unless we get >>> caught up on >>> top of Space Mountain.... >>> >>> If others arrive to secure the dinner reservation spots, that will >>> be fine >>> as well. I'm still hoping to get a ticket for myself for San Diego. >>> I have to >>> remember to call them directly. >>> >>> Anybody bought tickets for San Diego's show? >>> >>> Thanks Elaine for being in charge. Reassuring, you know? You >>> wouldn't happen >>> to be able to get "in" with the backstage bouncers by late January, >>> would >>> you?... >>> >>> Wish Robyn were going... doesn't seem right she won't be there... >>> >>> -Warren >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:02:26 -0700 From: Beth Meyer Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V10 #81 Hi, Keith et al; John McJunkin wrote: > > Dear Keith Stansell, > Well, before anybody considers doing anything at all unethical or illegal, I should point out that you can get some really good deals on last-minute airfares at www.site59.com. We used them for both occasions this year when we suddenly had to fly our family of four from Denver to Atlanta for funerals, and got fares that were way lower than what the other travel sites were charging, with a rental car bundled in. The downside is you can't make reservations more than a couple of weeks in advance (more headaches for Elaine, sorry!), but it beats selling one's offspring. I'm not at all associated with the site, it just really helped us out this year. - -Beth (who HAS seen the man live in concert, so I get to keep my kids and stay home, right? :-) ) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V10 #85 ***************************