From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V9 #103 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, November 9 2004 Volume 09 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: San Francisco Tips ["Michael & Denise" ] Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips [Jon Drukman ] Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips [Patrick McMillan ] Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips ["Andrea Allen" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 16:09:16 -0500 From: "Michael & Denise" Subject: Alloy: San Francisco Tips Hi gang, I'm getting ready to travel to San Francisco later this month and thought I'd turn to the Alloy list for some advice as to what to see. I've only been to the west coast once before so this will be new territory for me. Any tips or perhaps a personal tour from Mr.Dolby himself would be greatly appreciated:) Thanks! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:16:23 -0800 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips At 01:09 PM 11/7/2004, Michael & Denise wrote: >Hi gang, >I'm getting ready to travel to San Francisco later this month and thought I'd >turn to the Alloy list for some advice as to what to see. I've only been to >the west coast once before so this will be new territory for me. Any tips or >perhaps a personal tour from Mr.Dolby himself would be greatly appreciated:) >Thanks! >Mike take a drive up to the top of twin peaks. amazing 360 degree view of the city. walking across the golden gate bridge is nice if the weather isn't nasty. email me direct if you need any more information! - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:57:27 -0800 From: Patrick McMillan Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips Around SF: Mount Tamalpais - good hikes leading to vistas over the Pacific. You can also hike down to Stinson Beach from here. Monterey Aquarium - amazing aquatic creatures up close. (Good animal husbandry program too.) Napa Valley - good wineries, most open for tasting. Yosemite Valley: okay, it's 5 hours away, but probably my favorite place on the planet. La Trattoria Siciliana - amazing (but expensive) Italian restaurant on College & Ashby in Berkeley. Cash only. In SF: Ali Baba's - great (and cheap) Falafels. 19th & Valencia SF Museum of Craft and Design - Free admission to odd collection of eccentric art and whimsical 'utilitarian' objects Good up to date SF website: Like the song says "You can get anything you want....". Bands, clubs, dances, festivals,.... http://sanfrancisco.about.com/cs/festivals/a/novfestivals.htm Patrick McMillan Toxey/McMillan Design Associates 4608 Ramsgate Court  Arlington, TX 76013  (817) 368-2750 925 Jackson Street  Benicia, CA 94510  (707) 745-1545 fax (206) 339-5319 http://www.tmdaexhibits.com On Nov 7, 2004, at 1:09 PM, Michael & Denise wrote: > > Hi gang, > I'm getting ready to travel to San Francisco later this month and > thought I'd > turn to the Alloy list for some advice as to what to see. I've only > been to > the west coast once before so this will be new territory for me. Any > tips or > perhaps a personal tour from Mr.Dolby himself would be greatly > appreciated:) > Thanks! > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:15:09 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Alloy: Spam & Alloy I have reached the point that I believe I need to abandon my ages-old email address in order to sidestep the flood of spam that now plagues my mailbox. Filtering alone doesn't seem to be a good enough solution anymore, as the spammers are fighting back by adding random words, misspellings, etc, to counteract the filters. Besides, filtering the spam still means I have to *accept* the spam to test it; better that it bounces altogether and not waste my time/space/energy. Anyway, I would like to change my address... however, as some of you may know, postings to this list are archived at smoe.org (http://www.smoe.org/lists/alloy/) where the list maintainers make NO effort to remove or obfuscate the email addresses from the archives--ripe pickings for a spammer's webcrawling software to harvest. Since I see no point in changing my address only to have it again publicly revealed to the internet-at-large, I'm left with a problem. Either the folks at smoe.org need to be convinced to correct this problem with their archives, or I'll have to remember to use a fake address each time I post to Alloy to maintain my privacy against the spammers. I figure everyone here must suffer from spam to some degree, so I thought I'd float these ideas on the list. What would *you* do? And, in a last-ditch effort to stay on-topic, What Would Thomas Do? Thanks, BC - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:44:13 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips On 09/11/2004, at 4:57 AM, Patrick McMillan wrote: > Monterey Aquarium - amazing aquatic creatures up close. (Good animal > husbandry program too.) Just remember, Mike, there won't be whales, unfortunately. Lemme dig out the article... SF Gate: Whales, Marine Biologist Missing. Sensation was the word of the day following the Maritime Cetacean Institute's reluctant decision to close the whale environment where two sperm whales, Gracie and George, were exhibited as their host, Dr. Gillian Taylor, disappeared shortly after the whales' release into the ocean. Adding to the puzzle, signals from the transponders placed on the whales also ceased shortly afterwards leading to speculation that Dr. Taylor had somehow moved them to a safer location. Authorities are at a loss to explain the events. "We're at a loss to explain these events." said fellow marine biologist Dr. Guido Sanchez. There are also mysterious reports of a large dragon-like apparition from a fishing trawler in the area at the time of the whales' disappearance but this has been put down to excessive alcohol consumption by the crew. Dr. Gillian Taylor has not been seen since. Police are circulating pictures in the hope of reestablishing her whereabouts. Other news: Security Scare on Aircraft Carrier: Russian Spy Injured While Attempting Escape, Disappears. A man was critically injured last night while attempting to escape security troops on the nuclear aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, currently berthed in the Navy's Bayside base. Reports indicate the man, thought to be a Russian operative and earlier heard asking for directions to a "wessel", had gained access to Enterprise' highly guarded nuclear reactor for unknown reasons. The man later escaped capture but fell to the dock and was hospitalised with head trauma. The man was later abducted by several persons unknown to police and has not been seen since. P. (Sorry, I just- sorry.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:04:08 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips Wow - that happened back in 84 or so - they still haven't replaced those whales? - -Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Baily To: alloy@smoe.org Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips On 09/11/2004, at 4:57 AM, Patrick McMillan wrote: > Monterey Aquarium - amazing aquatic creatures up close. (Good animal > husbandry program too.) Just remember, Mike, there won't be whales, unfortunately. Lemme dig out the article... SF Gate: Whales, Marine Biologist Missing. Sensation was the word of the day following the Maritime Cetacean Institute's reluctant decision to close the whale environment where two sperm whales, Gracie and George, were exhibited as their host, Dr. Gillian Taylor, disappeared shortly after the whales' release into the ocean. Adding to the puzzle, signals from the transponders placed on the whales also ceased shortly afterwards leading to speculation that Dr. Taylor had somehow moved them to a safer location. Authorities are at a loss to explain the events. "We're at a loss to explain these events." said fellow marine biologist Dr. Guido Sanchez. There are also mysterious reports of a large dragon-like apparition from a fishing trawler in the area at the time of the whales' disappearance but this has been put down to excessive alcohol consumption by the crew. Dr. Gillian Taylor has not been seen since. Police are circulating pictures in the hope of reestablishing her whereabouts. Other news: Security Scare on Aircraft Carrier: Russian Spy Injured While Attempting Escape, Disappears. A man was critically injured last night while attempting to escape security troops on the nuclear aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, currently berthed in the Navy's Bayside base. Reports indicate the man, thought to be a Russian operative and earlier heard asking for directions to a "wessel", had gained access to Enterprise' highly guarded nuclear reactor for unknown reasons. The man later escaped capture but fell to the dock and was hospitalised with head trauma. The man was later abducted by several persons unknown to police and has not been seen since. P. (Sorry, I just- sorry.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:56:10 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips On 09/11/2004, at 10:04 AM, Keith Stansell wrote: > Wow - that happened back in 84 or so - they still haven't replaced > those > whales? Yeh, must've been a budget thing. You'd think they could at least put some seamonkeys in there or something. Hmm, seamonkeys... seamonkeys... spongmonkeys? Oh crap... done it now... P. /get this song outa my head! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:02:54 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips I love those subs - had one yesterday. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Baily To: alloy@smoe.org Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips On 09/11/2004, at 10:04 AM, Keith Stansell wrote: > Wow - that happened back in 84 or so - they still haven't replaced > those > whales? Yeh, must've been a budget thing. You'd think they could at least put some seamonkeys in there or something. Hmm, seamonkeys... seamonkeys... spongmonkeys? Oh crap... done it now... P. /get this song outa my head! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 19:58:01 -0600 From: "Andrea Allen" Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips subs? what subs? one of whose submarines? ducks. runs. a. On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 18:02:54 -0700 "Keith Stansell" wrote: > > I love those subs - had one yesterday. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Baily > To: alloy@smoe.org > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: Alloy: San Francisco Tips > > > > On 09/11/2004, at 10:04 AM, Keith Stansell wrote: > > > Wow - that happened back in 84 or so - they still haven't > replaced > > those > > whales? > > Yeh, must've been a budget thing. You'd think they could at least > put > some seamonkeys in there or something. Hmm, seamonkeys... > seamonkeys... > spongmonkeys? Oh crap... done it now... > > P. > /get this song outa my head! ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V9 #103 ***************************