From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V9 #56 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, May 13 2004 Volume 09 : Number 056 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V9 #55 ["Dunn Tim (Products O2)" Subject: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V9 #55 Hi Crackers, I agree!! It would make a great first project for my new laptop! A multimedia CD would also give a vent to the people who are talented in various fields apart from music (and there are loads of them on here...) to do a full Dolby-inspired digital extravaganza. By the way, when are you next coming through London? After a (very) brief crackdown, our phone boxes are again full of "street art" for your collection ;) Cheers, Tim This email and any attachments may be confidential and the subject of legal professional privilege. Any disclosure, use, storage or copying of this email without the consent of the sender is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you are not the intended recipient and then delete the email from your inbox and do not disclose the contents to another person, use, copy or store the information in any medium. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:06:56 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Alloy: Apple Wants to Open Song Vaults from: http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,63351,00.html "What Jobs is saying is, 'We'd be happy to take all this content that is rotting away in warehouses and turn it into a new revenue source for you,'" said Barry Ritholtz, a market strategist with Maxim Group, a money-management firm. "It's probably a bit much to say Jobs is saving the music industry, but he's showing them the way into the digital age. They have been stumbling around drunk in the dark." - ---- I like the sound of this - perhaps Thomas can get those rarities we all want to legally buy on iTunes. My old import cassette of The Golden Age of Wireless with Wreck of the Fairchild on it has pretty much become unlistenable. - -Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 09:36:28 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Apple Wants to Open Song Vaults > I like the sound of this - perhaps Thomas can get those rarities we > all want > to legally buy on iTunes. My old import cassette of The Golden Age of > Wireless with Wreck of the Fairchild on it has pretty much become > unlistenable. Indeed! Now, if only those other bits of the world that aren't the US (you know, like the /rest/ of the fricken world) could actually access iTunes Music Store... Sorry, I just- you know... Paul. [wanders off muttering about content cartels and where they can collectively stick their country-specific ranso^H^H^H^H^Hagreements...] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:59:38 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Apple Wants to Open Song Vaults Yeah, that does suck - people from other countries have ears too - what's Apple thinking? - -Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Baily" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Apple Wants to Open Song Vaults > > > I like the sound of this - perhaps Thomas can get those rarities we > > all want > > to legally buy on iTunes. My old import cassette of The Golden Age of > > Wireless with Wreck of the Fairchild on it has pretty much become > > unlistenable. > > Indeed! > > Now, if only those other bits of the world that aren't the US (you > know, like the /rest/ of the fricken world) could actually access > iTunes Music Store... > > Sorry, I just- you know... > > Paul. > [wanders off muttering about content cartels and where they can > collectively stick their country-specific ranso^H^H^H^H^Hagreements...] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 22:10:07 -0500 From: joe Subject: Re: Alloy: Apple Wants to Open Song Vaults I have read that Apple desperately wants to sell music in Europe and elsewhere, but the process for licensing the music rights throughout Europe has been an utterly tangled mess for them. I don't know if that's true but it doesn't sound impossible to me. Those "content cartels" don't just exist in the USA... On May 12, 2004, at 9:59 PM, Keith Stansell wrote: > > Yeah, that does suck - people from other countries have ears too - > what's > Apple thinking? > > -Keith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Baily" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: Alloy: Apple Wants to Open Song Vaults > > >> >>> I like the sound of this - perhaps Thomas can get those rarities we >>> all want >>> to legally buy on iTunes. My old import cassette of The Golden Age >>> of >>> Wireless with Wreck of the Fairchild on it has pretty much become >>> unlistenable. >> >> Indeed! >> >> Now, if only those other bits of the world that aren't the US (you >> know, like the /rest/ of the fricken world) could actually access >> iTunes Music Store... >> >> Sorry, I just- you know... >> >> Paul. >> [wanders off muttering about content cartels and where they can >> collectively stick their country-specific >> ranso^H^H^H^H^Hagreements...] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:28:03 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Apple Wants to Open Song Vaults On 13/05/2004, at 12:59 pm, Keith Stansell wrote: > Yeah, that does suck - people from other countries have ears too - > what's > Apple thinking? And some even have perfectly good credit cards too. As Joe points out, apparently it's not due to Apple, rather the content cartels themselves dragging the chain signing deals. Negotiations are apparently proceeding (how long has iTMS been out now? Just over one year?) but I think several glaciers have been seen overtaking them... The EU looks closest to getting access but soon is a relative term. Who was it that said "you can lead a horse to water but if you can't make it drink you can always drown it"? P. [We wish to advise that the speaker above was just venting a pet peeve. No horses were harmed or even remotely threatened by the creation of this message. Or content cartels. More's the pity. About the content cartels I mean. Not the horses. Horses only use their powers for good. Except those tiny ones. Something not quite right there. And don't get me started on spongmonkeys.] ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V9 #56 **************************