From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V8 #191 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, November 20 2003 Volume 08 : Number 191 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Science on Simpsons [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: Science on Simpsons ["Keith Stansell" ] RE: Alloy: OT: Funky Books ["Robin Thurlow" ] Re: Alloy: OT: Funky Books ["Crackers" ] RE: Alloy: OT: Funky Books ["Bill Krzysko" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:39:12 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Alloy: Science on Simpsons Tonight they ran a repeat of Treehouse of Horror XIV on Fox. Having missed it when it ran a couple weeks ago, I taped it this time around. Brigid was watching it while I was tending to dinner and email, and piped up to tell me that they played a few bars of "Science" during a segment. On running it back, I found that they used it as the "welcome the presenters" music at the Nobel Prize awards. (The local scientist had won the Physics prize for inventing a combination hammer/screwdriver.) At any rate, it was nice to hear. :) Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.wiccans.net/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:14:05 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Science on Simpsons You have to admit, it is a classic that everyone is familiar with. Just a simple reference and everyone knows what you are talking about. I've seen several news headlines, references on "The Daily Show" and such based on "blinded with science". Has Thomas ever said how he came up with that term "she blinded me with science" and the origins of the song? I don't know that I've ever seen it mentioned in any interviews and such. Was there a real woman that was the inspiration for the song. Also, how did Thomas - an unknown at the time I'm guessing - talk this TV scientist Magnus Pike (sp?) into appearing on the single and video? The guy refused to wear a lab coat in the video because he was not a doctor (per pop-up video), so I can't imagine he would be easily talked into doing a cameo on just some guy's single. Did Thomas have a friendship with Magnus Pike before (or after?) doing the single? Just curious, - -Keith Denver CO - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Moore" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:39 PM Subject: Alloy: Science on Simpsons > > Tonight they ran a repeat of Treehouse of Horror XIV on Fox. Having > missed it when it ran a couple weeks ago, I taped it this time around. > Brigid was watching it while I was tending to dinner and email, and piped > up to tell me that they played a few bars of "Science" during a segment. On > running it back, I found that they used it as the "welcome the presenters" > music at the Nobel Prize awards. (The local scientist had won the Physics > prize for inventing a combination hammer/screwdriver.) At any rate, it was > nice to hear. :) > > Robyn M > > > @ Robyn Moore > @ http://www.wiccans.net/robyn.html > @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:52:22 -0500 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: RE: Alloy: OT: Funky Books Basement funk! This is something I am asked about a lot. We have everything in here from mildly funky books to full blown mould that's furry. We recently received a 100-volume set from China that had very furry mould on it & I got so sad just looking at them. I could have either shaved them or opened a petting zoo, they were so far gone - in the end the bibliographers decided to send them back, thank heavens. For a mildly funky book that's in good condition otherwise (not brittle or damaged, and no mould already growing on it).. if the book is still damp, it can be stood on end so that the pages are fanned out. You can set a brick or bookend against either board to help it not fall over. If you have a little fan, you can circulate the air over it to help it dry nicely. Exposure to light (natural or artificial) is always good as this deters mould from growing. There are a few methods for getting rid of funky smells, once the book is dry. One of the most effective is to place the book inside a box you can seal, like a large shoebox - whatever the book will fit inside, plus a bit of extra room. Near the book you can place a tray or otherwise open container of a dry deodorizer. You can use baking soda (this is nice and neutral), powder carpet deodorizers, deactivated charcoal or kitty litter. With violins I remember the carpet deodorizer worked best because it was strong & had a scent to mask any last trace of the smell. I think the most important thing to remember for this step is to be sure the book (or violin) does not come in contact with whatever deodorizer you're using, especially the stronger ones. Because you may not be sure what pigments or adhesives were used when the book was made, you can't be sure what might cause staining or damage to the finished book, so keeping the stuff away from the book is a general rule of thumb that should always be followed. Leave the book in the box with the deodoriser for a few days and then take it out & see how it smells. Hope this helps. best of luck!! xx ~robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:28:08 -0500 From: "Crackers" Subject: Re: Alloy: OT: Funky Books - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Thurlow" > For a mildly funky book that's in good condition otherwise (not brittle or > damaged, and no mould already growing on it).. if the book is still damp, it > can be stood on end so that the pages are fanned out. You can set a brick > or bookend against either board to help it not fall over. If you have a > little fan, you can circulate the air over it to help it dry nicely. Heheheh. This was the method I tried out while waiting for a reply. Just opening it up and let it sit near the furnace vent. Once the book was thoroughly dried the smell has practically gone. Thanks for the box tip too. I think I might have some other books that could use that treatment. Crackers Ghastly's Ghastly Comic http://ghastlycomic.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:10:55 -0600 From: "Bill Krzysko" Subject: RE: Alloy: OT: Funky Books Since we're on the subject, I was going to ask you this as well. What can you do about books that are turning yellow and brittle? These probably aren't high quality books I would like to try and save them. Thanks Robin - -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Robin Thurlow Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:52 PM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: RE: Alloy: OT: Funky Books Basement funk! This is something I am asked about a lot. We have everything in here from mildly funky books to full blown mould that's furry. We recently received a 100-volume set from China that had very furry mould on it & I got so sad just looking at them. I could have either shaved them or opened a petting zoo, they were so far gone - in the end the bibliographers decided to send them back, thank heavens. For a mildly funky book that's in good condition otherwise (not brittle or damaged, and no mould already growing on it).. if the book is still damp, it can be stood on end so that the pages are fanned out. You can set a brick or bookend against either board to help it not fall over. If you have a little fan, you can circulate the air over it to help it dry nicely. Exposure to light (natural or artificial) is always good as this deters mould from growing. There are a few methods for getting rid of funky smells, once the book is dry. One of the most effective is to place the book inside a box you can seal, like a large shoebox - whatever the book will fit inside, plus a bit of extra room. Near the book you can place a tray or otherwise open container of a dry deodorizer. You can use baking soda (this is nice and neutral), powder carpet deodorizers, deactivated charcoal or kitty litter. With violins I remember the carpet deodorizer worked best because it was strong & had a scent to mask any last trace of the smell. I think the most important thing to remember for this step is to be sure the book (or violin) does not come in contact with whatever deodorizer you're using, especially the stronger ones. Because you may not be sure what pigments or adhesives were used when the book was made, you can't be sure what might cause staining or damage to the finished book, so keeping the stuff away from the book is a general rule of thumb that should always be followed. Leave the book in the box with the deodoriser for a few days and then take it out & see how it smells. Hope this helps. best of luck!! xx ~robin ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V8 #191 ***************************