From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V8 #27 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, February 10 2003 Volume 08 : Number 027 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History ["Paulo" ] Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History ["Paulo" ] Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History [Brian Clayton ] Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History ["Paulo" ] Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History [Russell Milliner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:03:47 -0300 From: "Paulo" Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History Yes, up until now all the different copies of the magazine cover I've found have the SYNTH version (US, UK, brazilian, EMI, Harvest, Capitol, Venice, etc...). The running order of the songs may vary, but it is always the SYNTH. Never got lucky to find the ROCK version on one of those. I even found a 12" single with yellow EMI label which was a promo with EUROPA backed with RADIO. I ordered immediatly... I was really expecting this one to have the rock version on it. When it arrived it was a deception. Nor EUROPA was any different from the album version, nor RADIO was the rock version. I'll try to find the HARVEST release with the brown cover / Dolby on the stage, in the web stores of used vynil.... Brian (or everybody)... If it is not asking too much, do you have a catalogue number? Because most stores don't print the cover... they only mention the name of the album, country of release and catalogue n:... Thanks a lot Brian for the information Paulo - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Clayton" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:43 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History > > It should be noted that the Harvest Records version of TGAOW (brown cover, > Dolby on stage) definitely has the rock/guitar version of Radio Silence on > it. That one is easily recognizable in the used record bins. > > I've never crossed paths with any copies of the magazine/comic > cover-Wireless which had anything other than the synth version, but > they apparently do exist. > > BC > > > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Russell Milliner wrote: > > > I am lucky enough to have both. Both are the "comic book" style cover > > (Captol ST-1-12271), and both have identical label, county and catalogue > > number. There is only two ways to know the difference...listen :-) or > > look at the track time. The rock version has a track time of 4:32 > > whereas the synth version has a track time of 3:43. Also my copy of > > the synth version came is a clear plastic sleeve and the rock version > > has a purple Capitol sleeve. > > > > I should probably note this on my web site (and I probably will). > > > > -Russ > > http://www.tmdrfan.com/ > > > > > > Paulo wrote: > > > > >Hello to all > > > > > >I need your help on this: > > > > > >In the last 2 years I've bought through the internet many different > > >versions of Thomas 1st album TGAOW, in order to find the ROCK VERSION of > > >RADIO SILENCE, but my efforts were in vain... > > > > > >All copies I' ve got had the usual SYNTH version. The last one I got was > > >the UK VENICE IN PERIL copy n: VIP1076071, but it also had the SYNTH > > >version. > > > > > >If it is possible, I'd like you to tell me which pressing has the ROCK > > >VERSION (label, country and catalogue number). > > >It will make it easier to find a copy in the web. > > > > > >Thank you so much > > > > > >Paulo > > > > -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 08:57:55 -0300 From: "Paulo" Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History Since both versions are on albums which have identical labels and (worse) catalogue number, then it will be difficult to lacate the ROCK version because it is not common record stores list track time. But I won't give up. Brian Clayton said that the brown cover has it... I'll try to find that one because, obviously, it is easier to recognise. Thank you a lot Russell for all the information. Paulo - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Milliner" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History > > I am lucky enough to have both. Both are the "comic book" style cover > (Captol ST-1-12271), and both have identical label, county and catalogue > number. There is only two ways to know the difference...listen :-) or > look at the track time. The rock version has a track time of 4:32 > whereas the synth version has a track time of 3:43. Also my copy of > the synth version came is a clear plastic sleeve and the rock version > has a purple Capitol sleeve. > > I should probably note this on my web site (and I probably will). > > -Russ > http://www.tmdrfan.com/ > > > Paulo wrote: > > >Hello to all > > > >I need your help on this: > > > >In the last 2 years I've bought through the internet many different > >versions of Thomas 1st album TGAOW, in order to find the ROCK VERSION of > >RADIO SILENCE, but my efforts were in vain... > > > >All copies I' ve got had the usual SYNTH version. The last one I got was > >the UK VENICE IN PERIL copy n: VIP1076071, but it also had the SYNTH > >version. > > > >If it is possible, I'd like you to tell me which pressing has the ROCK > >VERSION (label, country and catalogue number). > >It will make it easier to find a copy in the web. > > > >Thank you so much > > > >Paulo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 03:09:48 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Paulo wrote: > Brian (or everybody)... If it is not asking too much, do you have a > catalogue number? Because most stores don't print the cover... they > only mention the name of the album, country of release and catalogue > n:... As per Lazlo's discography (http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs): LP: 1982 US (Harvest; ST-12203) (+CN) ["stage" ps] Good luck! BC - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:16:45 -0300 From: "Paulo" Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History God... How could I forget to take a look at Lazlo's Dolby Page!!! Sorry! Thanks a million Brian! Paulo - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Clayton" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History > > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Paulo wrote: > > > Brian (or everybody)... If it is not asking too much, do you have a > > catalogue number? Because most stores don't print the cover... they > > only mention the name of the album, country of release and catalogue > > n:... > > As per Lazlo's discography (http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs): > > LP: 1982 US (Harvest; ST-12203) (+CN) ["stage" ps] > > Good luck! > > BC > > -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 13:52:34 -0500 From: Russell Milliner Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History The labels do vary in the one aspect of the track time for Radio. Note: I believe there are many of them out there. I have run into two copies before. The first was when I realized there were two different versions back in 1989 when I girlfriend was listening to my copy and said the song was different. I was truely amazed and fascinated at the time! - -Russ Paulo wrote: >Since both versions are on albums which have identical labels and >(worse) catalogue number, then it will be difficult to lacate the ROCK >version because it is not common record stores list track time. But I won't >give up. Brian Clayton said that the brown cover has it... I'll try to find >that one because, obviously, it is easier to recognise. > >Thank you a lot Russell for all the information. > >Paulo > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Russell Milliner" >To: >Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:42 AM >Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History > > > > >>I am lucky enough to have both. Both are the "comic book" style cover >>(Captol ST-1-12271), and both have identical label, county and catalogue >>number. There is only two ways to know the difference...listen :-) or >>look at the track time. The rock version has a track time of 4:32 >>whereas the synth version has a track time of 3:43. Also my copy of >>the synth version came is a clear plastic sleeve and the rock version >>has a purple Capitol sleeve. >> >>I should probably note this on my web site (and I probably will). >> >>-Russ >>http://www.tmdrfan.com/ >> >> >>Paulo wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hello to all >>> >>>I need your help on this: >>> >>>In the last 2 years I've bought through the internet many different >>>versions of Thomas 1st album TGAOW, in order to find the ROCK VERSION of >>>RADIO SILENCE, but my efforts were in vain... >>> >>>All copies I' ve got had the usual SYNTH version. The last one I got was >>>the UK VENICE IN PERIL copy n: VIP1076071, but it also had the SYNTH >>>version. >>> >>>If it is possible, I'd like you to tell me which pressing has the ROCK >>>VERSION (label, country and catalogue number). >>>It will make it easier to find a copy in the web. >>> >>>Thank you so much >>> >>>Paulo ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V8 #27 **************************