From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V8 #24 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, February 7 2003 Volume 08 : Number 024 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: European Vacation ["p.latham2" ] Alloy: Thomas Chart History ["p.latham2" ] Re: Alloy: European Vacation [Robin Thurlow ] Alloy: Hedgehog crisps [Robin Thurlow ] Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video DVD? [Russell Milliner ] Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History [PRAEst76 ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:14:39 -0000 From: "p.latham2" Subject: Re: Alloy: European Vacation Well said Beth - as Homer would say "crisps - hmmmmmm". Latest flavour spotted in local Asda supermarket - Baked Bean flavour crisps - many years ago we had 'Hedgehog Flavour' - but for all vegetarians & animal lovers - Im sure it was just flavouring - but it is a concerning thought of how they new what flavouring to use. Other strange flavours currently - worcester sauce, bovril, branston pickle & cheese ,- the list is endless. Paul (Blackpool) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Beth Meyer To: Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:00 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: European Vacation > > Hi, folks; > > Just to add a suggestion on a cuisine-related note -- if you have tastes > at all similar to mine, you will want to forget about calories (hey, > this is a vacation, right?) and attempt to sample every flavor of potato > chip (aka "crisps") you can find. I have always been a sucker for > interesting flavors of potato chips, but interesting flavors are still a > bit hard to come by here in the US. Not so in the U.K. We're not just > talking salt and vinegar here -- no, more like shrimp flavor, or roast > beef & mustard, or ham & pineapple, or roast chicken, etc. On my second > trip to the U.K., we stopped off at a gas station or two and I always > walked out with an armload of little bags of potato chips. Mmmmm... > > ...but then I have been known to have strange tastes. > > And certainly try the chocolate in both the U.K. and Belgium. I found > that Belgian chocolate was definitely a rich and yummy indulgence, but > to just keep me going while running around the cities, I preferred mint > Aero bars from the U.K. (After a nice bag of, say, tomato and bacon > flavor potato chips.) > > Cheers, > Beth > > P.S. To echo what others have said, York and the Lake District are > seriously cool. Didn't stay in Belgium for long enough to see much more > than the Mannequin Pis, which strikes me as a tad overrated... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:25:02 -0000 From: "p.latham2" Subject: Alloy: Thomas Chart History Just a quick snippet - many moons ago I mentioned that I thought Thomas first chart hit - or connected chart hit - was in the UK Indedpendent charts with the Fallout Club - Wonderlust - however I now believe it to be in 1980 when VideoKilled the Radio Star by Bruce Woolley & Camera Club climbed the Canadian charts peaking at no. 18 march 29th 1980.- go Bruce,go Bruce - he deserved more success than this - at least his Radio Science Orchestra is having some success - they appeared in Shanghai last year & provided backing for Grace Jones on the 'Avengers Film Soundtrack'. Does anyone else know of any other recordings involving Thomas which might have made the charts any earlier - also does anyone know how Thomas & bruce Woolley singles fared elsewhere in the world - it appears in the US only Europa & Science had any sort of success - whilst in the UK - Windpower, Hot Sauce,Airhead,Silk Pyjamas, Hyperactive , I scare Myself all made approx top 50.Sadly I believe Field Work only made 98 in the charts , & May the Cube no, 85. So much for a quick snippet. You can tell who was laid up for 5 months with a broken knee cant you with only the internet for company. Paul (Blackpool). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:41:43 -0800 (PST) From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: European Vacation Didn't Paul mention musk flavoured crisps in Australia? or was that Life-Savers? ~r Beth Meyer wrote: Hi, folks; Just to add a suggestion on a cuisine-related note -- if you have tastes at all similar to mine, you will want to forget about calories (hey, this is a vacation, right?) and attempt to sample every flavor of potato chip (aka "crisps") you can find. I have always been a sucker for interesting flavors of potato chips, but interesting flavors are still a bit hard to come by here in the US. Not so in the U.K. We're not just talking salt and vinegar here -- no, more like shrimp flavor, or roast beef & mustard, or ham & pineapple, or roast chicken, etc. On my second trip to the U.K., we stopped off at a gas station or two and I always walked out with an armload of little bags of potato chips. Mmmmm... ...but then I have been known to have strange tastes. And certainly try the chocolate in both the U.K. and Belgium. I found that Belgian chocolate was definitely a rich and yummy indulgence, but to just keep me going while running around the cities, I preferred mint Aero bars from the U.K. (After a nice bag of, say, tomato and bacon flavor potato chips.) Cheers, Beth P.S. To echo what others have said, York and the Lake District are seriously cool. Didn't stay in Belgium for long enough to see much more than the Mannequin Pis, which strikes me as a tad overrated... Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:45:34 -0800 (PST) From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: Hedgehog crisps Here's a little article I found about the hedgehog crisps (curiosity got the better of me!) xx ~r "Almost the entire contents of the page below came from a file I picked up while netsurfing at some point in the dim dark past. In other words I can't be sure where I got it from, but the original message was signd by Steph Mandell and was borrowed (?) from an article in the Wall Street Journal. - --------------------------------- Hedgehog mania has accounted for at least one business success story: Hedgehog Foods Ltd., one of Europe's biggest makers of organic potato chips, or crisps at the British call them. In 1981, Philip Lewis, a pub owners in Wales and devotee of hedgehog jokes, decided as a lark to produce "hedgehog flavored" crisps. Sales boomed, but it didn't take long for angry hedgehog lovers to blow the whistle, fearing that the crisps were actually made from hedgehogs. In fact, they were flavored with pork fat. But then, in 1982, Britain's Office of Fair Trading hauled Mr. Lewis into court for false advertising. A settlement ultimately was reached under Mr. Lewis interviewing gypsies, who actually do eat baked hedgehog, ascertained what hedgehogs taste like and commissioned a flavorings firm to more or less duplicate the flavor. He changed the labels from "hedgehog flavored" to "hedgehog flavor," and all interest were satisfied. Last year Hedgehog Foods had sales of $3.6 million and is now a major contributor to St. Tiggywinkles Hospital, plugging the hospital on every package. "Looking back, it was a bit gruesome, that flavor," Mr. Lewis concedes. - reprinted without permission from THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, January 8, 1992 (page 1) (St. Tiggywinkles is a hospital exclusively for hedgehogs, located in the English Midlands. Hapless hedgehogs are sent from all over, mostly through British Rail's overnight parcel service, which has a special rate for shipping injured hedgehogs.) " Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 19:28:31 -0500 From: Russell Milliner Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video DVD? Not only did this bootleg Laserdisc to DVD copy sell for $65! but he actually put another one up for sale recently. Also now we have someone putting up what appears to be a bootleg DVD of Live Wireless with the videos from the Thomas Dolby music videos VHS tape. This is one of those instances where there is a small market, but the company that holds the copyrights just lets it collect dust someplace. The eBay auctions just go to show there really is a market for this. - -Russ http://www.tmdrfan.com/ Keith Stansell wrote: >I suspect is a bootleg. Probably someone made a copy of the laserdisc >version. > >I got a laugh out of his claim (48khz - better than CD quality audio) being >as it was likely copied from a laserdisc (cd quality audio) not to mention >the audio on several of the laserdisc tracks are in mono. It would even be >pretty easy to make a DVD cover that looked legitimate. I asked the seller >who released the DVD - waiting for a reply. > >If it were released on DVD, we would likely see it listed here: >http://www.pioneer-ent.com/pea/dvd-music-pioneer-artists.html > >Looking at some of the titles Pioneer is releasing (most look like >re-releases of their laserdisc titles) I think we have hope that it will be >eventually released on DVD. If so, it would be nice if they combined it >with Live Wireless. > >Perhaps we should start a writing campaign to Pioneer Artists asking for >this. > > >-Keith > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Russell Milliner" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:43 PM >Subject: Alloy: Golden Age of Video DVD? > > > > >>Someone is selling on eBay what they claim is a Thomas Dolby - The >>Golden Age of Video DVD? >> >> >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3307788357&ssPageName=ADM >E:B:SS:US:1 > > >>Can anyone out there validate that this product has EVER EXISTED? I >>have the VHS and Laserdisc of this, and from the picture on eBay it is >>impossible to verifiy that it truely is a DVD. >> >>-Russell >>http://www.tmdrfan.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:10:05 -0200 From: "Paulo" Subject: Alloy: Thomas Chart History > Does anyone else know of any other recordings involving Thomas which might > have made the charts any earlier - also does anyone know how Thomas & bruce > Woolley singles fared elsewhere in the world - it appears in the US only > Europa & Science had any sort of success - whilst in the UK - Windpower, Hot > Sauce,Airhead,Silk Pyjamas, Hyperactive , I scare Myself all made approx top > 50.Sadly I believe Field Work only made 98 in the charts , & May the Cube no, > 85. This is very unfair. FIELD WORK is one my Thomas Dolby all time favourites (by the way, almost everything in his discography is my all time favourite). But I love FIELD WORK, speacially the LONDON 12" MIX . In spite of its upbeat dance rythm, the song itself is so melancholic and extremely beautiful. Surely it deserved the n: 1 spot. Blame it on the public. Paulo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:25:01 +0000 From: PRAEst76 Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Chart History Paulo sed: > In spite of its upbeat dance rythm, the song itself is so melancholic and > extremely beautiful. > Surely it deserved the n: 1 spot. > Blame it on the public. What, the public who care about wether a song charts well or not to rate this music? Why does it matter? Thomas Dolby being at number one in the charts and being ranked along side such greats as The Chicken Song? Saturday Night? No Limit? All those alltime classic songs that display the ultimate achievment of mankinds muse? Most of the groups I listen to never chart nevermind get to number one. Many of TMDR's best tracks require some thought to truely enjoy... yeah i'm sure if he wanted Tom could get a number one tomorrow. Follow the manual on how to do it, cover all the bases that the single buying public want; catchy, fatally. bubblegum, getting dressed to go out at the weekend music and lose the respect of all his current fans in order to appease the teenyboppers and the beancounters. In my opinion having a number one is no sign of quality, it just means that you've bought off the lowest common denominator. - -- PRAEst76 http://www.cancellation.freeserve.co.uk/praest76/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:12:40 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: European Vacation On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 02:41 am, Robin Thurlow wrote: > Didn't Paul mention musk flavoured crisps in Australia? or was that > Life-Savers? Probably Life-Savers. Marsupials, on the other hand... P. This message powered by Love At First Sight/Kylie Minogue off Fever. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V8 #24 **************************