From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V7 #224 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, October 31 2002 Volume 07 : Number 224 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: SOFT CELL [PRAEst76 ] RE: Alloy: She Blinded Me With Giants? ["Robin Thurlow" ] Alloy: grand theft auto: vice city [Jon Drukman ] RE: Alloy: rock vs pop music reply [Jon Drukman ] Re: Alloy: JSD [Jon Drukman ] Re: Alloy: SOFT CELL [PRAEst76 ] Alloy: Blinded by Giants and Soft Boys ["Mary A. Brown" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:45:55 +0000 From: PRAEst76 Subject: Re: Alloy: SOFT CELL Jon sed: >>You might want to change the way you feature the sampled tracks by >>either supply to a more low quality stream type or making them openly >>available for download. Otherwise you are excluding anyone who doesn't >>have broadband internet access. > thanks for the feedback, but i'm not interested in catering to modem > users. How amazingly elitist of you. Well it's your loss. > the mp3's are in http://rs1.cluttered.com/kittens/ if you want to > download them directly. Yes, I know. But your attitude makes me not want to know. - -- PRAEst76 http://www.cancellation.freeserve.co.uk/praest76/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:13:33 -0500 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: RE: Alloy: She Blinded Me With Giants? I saw that the new Grand Theft auto has an all-80s soundtrack (the radio stations you can tune to in the all cars you steal play 80s songs) I wondered if Thomas was on there anywhere! ~robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:16:38 -0500 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: RE: Alloy: rock vs pop music reply Jon, any chance there's a cd out with your work on it? The computer I use is in my library office & I can only listen in with a tiny headset plugged into the jack, I prefer my music to be a llittle more all-enveloping (like turning it up til it shakes my clothes) ~robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:24:16 -0800 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: SOFT CELL At 02:45 AM 10/30/2002, PRAEst76 wrote: > > thanks for the feedback, but i'm not interested in catering to modem > > users. > >How amazingly elitist of you. Well it's your loss. it's elitist of me to want to control how people hear my music? the music that i spend hours and hours sweating and agonizing over? the music where i pack in tons of sonic details, and apply years of engineering experience, and thousands of dollars of studio equipment? funny, i don't see that as a loss. it's my art, and i present it on my terms. you are welcome not to listen. > > the mp3's are in http://rs1.cluttered.com/kittens/ if you want to > > download them directly. > >Yes, I know. But your attitude makes me not want to know. MY attitude? i'm really upset by YOUR attitude. have you ever done anything artistic? how would you like it if it were butchered? you're asking me to hack the legs off my children. i'm *giving away* cd quality copies of music that i am going to sell in stores, and you call me elitist because i don't provide horrible compressed versions? you have got some nerve. - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:26:42 -0800 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Alloy: grand theft auto: vice city At 07:13 AM 10/30/2002, Robin Thurlow wrote: >I saw that the new Grand Theft auto has an all-80s soundtrack (the radio >stations you can tune to in the all cars you steal play 80s songs) I >wondered if Thomas was on there anywhere! yep, "hyperactive". it's a brilliant game. the soundtrack made me laugh out loud at several points last night. http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,561545,00.html - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:27:36 -0800 From: Jon Drukman Subject: RE: Alloy: rock vs pop music reply At 07:16 AM 10/30/2002, Robin Thurlow wrote: >Jon, any chance there's a cd out with your work on it? The computer I use >is in my library office & I can only listen in with a tiny headset plugged >into the jack, I prefer my music to be a llittle more all-enveloping (like >turning it up til it shakes my clothes) i hear ya. no commercial cd's yet unfortunately. i'm meeting with my distributors this afternoon to discuss this very issue. in the meantime, you have my permission to burn the mp3's to a cd-r if you like. - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:32:39 -0800 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: JSD At 03:39 AM 10/29/2002, Paulo wrote: >Jon: >I was reading the biograpphy page... >Why record under different names (Ultraviolet Catasthophe and then Random) ? > >Let me be clear: It wasn't different bands... you were not changing from one >group to another... >It was just you behind all those projects, isn't it? UVC was me and two other guys, so it had its own name. Random is very different music from Bass Kittens. the other reason was i had a deal with a label that limited what i could do under the Bass Kittens name. >Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it better to establish your name, instead >of changing it from one project to the other. maybe. in my case it hasn't really mattered one way or the other, i'm not famous enough for either practice to have an impact. >I am not critisizing... just asking the reasons because it is not the first >time I see this practice... >specially on the dance field. mostly it's contractual. also labels and distributors don't like to flood the sales channels with releases by the same artist. if you're going to buy three things, and you're not a diehard fan, would you be more likely to buy three things by one artist or three things by three different artists? - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:51:04 +0000 From: PRAEst76 Subject: Re: Alloy: SOFT CELL Jon sed: > it's elitist of me to want to control how people hear my music? the music > that i spend hours and hours sweating and agonizing over? the music where > i pack in tons of sonic details, and apply years of engineering experience, > and thousands of dollars of studio equipment? funny, i don't see that as a > loss. Look, do whatever you want with your music. I don't care. I was mearly pointing out that putting streaming audio on your site that can only be heard by broadband users was restricting your audience. If you don't care then you don't care. - -- PRAEst76 http://www.cancellation.freeserve.co.uk/praest76/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:31:36 -0500 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: Blinded by Giants and Soft Boys Just in case any of the diehard fans like me are looking for this little ditty, I heard it from the Man himself that despite the reports it was going to be released for charity, it isn't available. I also asked if he was going to be playing with the Soft Boys again this weekend in SF but alas, he's off to Europe. He did say that he's supposed to be on a Soft Boys live release called "Side 3." Always a pleasant surprise to find an email from TMDR in one's inbox! Europa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: SOFT CELL On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, PRAEst76 wrote: > Look, do whatever you want with your music. I don't care. I was mearly > pointing out that putting streaming audio on your site that can only be > heard by broadband users was restricting your audience. If you don't > care then you don't care. LOL ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V7 #224 ***************************