From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V7 #162 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, August 14 2002 Volume 07 : Number 162 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Alloy spam ["Julie Sweeney" ] Re: Alloy: Tony Head [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: U.S. Congressmen Want to Stop Online Song-Swapping [Robyn Moor] Re: Alloy: U.S. Congressmen Want to Stop Online Song-Swapping [PRAEst76 <] Re: Alloy: spam email [Robyn Moore ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:08:59 -0500 From: "Julie Sweeney" Subject: Alloy: Alloy spam I received that spam as well.... Julie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:55:03 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Tony Head At 04:41 AM 11/08/2002, you appeared to say: >Robyn Moore said... > > > Isn't Tony Head busy making "Manchild" these days anyway? Or is > > that between series right now? > >Yeah, it only got the usual six episodes or whatever. It MAY get >another series but not that I've heard anything about it recently. That's something I've always found interesting about the difference between US and UK TV. Over there, 6-8 episodes a series is pretty normal. Over here, that small a number ordered for a season usually indicates an untried concept, a lack of faith in the series by the network suits, or both. >BTW has people here heard his redition of Sweet Transvestite? There are >even photos of him in the show online. Nice legs :) I've seen some pics, but I don't think I've heard him sing the part yet. I'm sure he does a fabulous job, though. Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.wiccans.net/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:05:12 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: U.S. Congressmen Want to Stop Online Song-Swapping At 06:36 AM 11/08/2002, you appeared to say: >Robyn Moore said... > > > Incidentally, the above link was found at Janis Ian's website, where > > she has a pair of articles which a) show her disagreement with the > > industry's pious mouthings about how everything they're doing is "for > > the artists", and b) outline plans and suggestions for how the record > > companies can "get with the times", as it were. > >This is the problem, the world is changing, they aren't. The whole >music biz has to be rethought to think of this... sadly that's too much >time and effort for many so what they are doing is just getting >medaeval to secure their 'property'. Unfortunately, it's all the media, not just the music end. The MPAA is also party to the "hack the pirates back" bill, and there's a lawsuit pending against ReplayTV for copyright infringement, partially because it can excise commercials. Jamie Kellner, head of Turner Broadcasting (and one of the few media mouthpieces I despise more than Hilary Rosen), is on record with a quote indicating that skipping the ads in TV shows is stealing. In an amazing display of magnanimousness, he allows some leeway if one needs to use the bathroom during a commercial break. Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.wiccans.net/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 00:11:49 +0100 From: PRAEst76 Subject: Re: Alloy: U.S. Congressmen Want to Stop Online Song-Swapping Robyn Moore said... > >This is the problem, the world is changing, they aren't. The whole > >music biz has to be rethought to think of this... sadly that's too much > >time and effort for many so what they are doing is just getting > >medaeval to secure their 'property'. > Unfortunately, it's all the media, not just the music end. The MPAA is > also party to the "hack the pirates back" bill, and there's a lawsuit > pending against ReplayTV for copyright infringement, partially because it > can excise commercials. Jamie Kellner, head of Turner Broadcasting (and one > of the few media mouthpieces I despise more than Hilary Rosen), is on > record with a quote indicating that skipping the ads in TV shows is > stealing. In an amazing display of magnanimousness, he allows some leeway > if one needs to use the bathroom during a commercial break. It's all about forcing people to take product. sitting and waiting for someone to want something isn't enough. We already live in a world where many people buy a product because they are told to, choice being a hard thing to use when you are bombarded daily with ads and concepts geared and convincing you want something. Ads are invasive, if they ever brought in laws in the Uk that 'made' ads on TV compulsary I'd stop watching TV... I'm sure they could find that illegal though, through some legal loop hole. Seems the law isn't about right and wrong, but about power. enough money and infuence you can have anything you want. - -- PRAEst76 http://www.cancellation.freeserve.co.uk/praest76/ np: Talk Talk - Today ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:20:32 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: spam email At 06:42 AM 12/08/2002, you appeared to say: >I have just received a few spam emails from a songwriting competition page, >and have gotten word from one of Alloy's members that she has also been >spammed by the same people. i have to check it out (usually the filters >will bounce the spam email to me instead of the list, and I can quietly >delete it... you wouldn't believe all the spam I have to wade through every >day, especially on Monday morning!) Meanwhile, has anyone else received >the same spam through their Alloy subscription address? They tried, but got caught in our spam filter. Kevin was asking me just last night or the night before if it was legit mail when he was checking our spam trap. Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.wiccans.net/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V7 #162 ***************************