From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V7 #71 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, April 11 2002 Volume 07 : Number 071 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. ["Crack] Re: Alloy: mistake ["Crackers" ] Re: Alloy: mistake ["Sally Allan" ] Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com ["Robin Thurlow" ] Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. [Te] Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. [Te] RE: Alloy: mistake ["Robin Thurlow" ] Alloy: article about Thomas/Beatnik in Financial Times ["Robin Thurlow" <] Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. ["] Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. [] Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com [TextureWorld] Re: Alloy: mistake ["Paulo" ] Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com [Robin Thurlo] Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com [Jon Drukman ] Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com [Paul Baily <] Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com [Merujo Subject: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. Hey gang. Have a couple of items to share with you from Mr. Dolby. First there is a sad paucity of reviews for "Fourty" (both autographed and non-autographed versions) on the CDBaby webpage. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dolbyautograph http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dolby Had I known we could post reviews there I would have posted one long ago. I'm going to take my time writing my review. I want it to come out just right. And there's an article on Thomas and his "Fourty" album and his mysterious musical future here. http://launch.yahoo.com/read/feature.asp?contentID=208301 It's a very cute and clever interview and we're being teased once again with the prospects of more music to come. Enjoy! Crackers (Writing a review and adding "Music Critic" to his resume from hell!!) Ghastly's Ghastly Comic http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:38:21 -0700 From: "Crackers" Subject: Re: Alloy: mistake - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulo" > I sent to Alloy by mistake an e-mail with a picture attached. > I didn't pay attention when I was replying the message and hit the wrong > buttons. So that's how this porn got in my e-mail box. Crackers (That's my story from hell!!!) Ghastly's Ghastly Comic http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:59:52 +0100 From: "Sally Allan" Subject: Re: Alloy: mistake > So that's how this porn got in my e-mail box. But Crackers, Paulo only sent *one* e-mail..... >:-) Sally ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:31:11 -0400 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com Thomas has written to tell us of a full version of the Hot Sauce video he's found on Launch.com. If you have a fast connection, please check it out at: He mentions how pleased he is to see it again, especially the various Lost Toy People in the Mariachi backup band. Also, a contest is proposed... Thomas thinks his Mexican band leader alter-ego needs a name! All suggestions will be seriously considered, even if you were only kidding :) I don't think any prises are involved, apart from the glory of having your suggestion go down in TMDR character name history. xxx Robin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:03:47 -0500 From: TextureWorld Subject: Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. At 1:30 AM -0700,4/10/02, Crackers said this: >First there is a sad paucity of reviews for "Fourty" (both autographed and >non-autographed versions) on the CDBaby webpage Posted mine. I said: I have one signed CD up on my wall, and this is it. Mr. Dolby signed both the cover and the disc, and I was pleased to be able to add it to my collection. In regards to the content, the live performance is both compelling and intimate. Screen Kiss and One Of Our Submarines just shine; the performances are just great. The performance of Hyperactive made me like the song more than I already did. If you are, or were, a Dolby fan, this CD (or even the non-autographed version) is definitely for you. My one complaint is that there wasn't more on the disc. Well, I also have one _other_ complaint . . . that Thomas Dolby hasn't been releasing more discs like this. I'd love to see a disc of unpublished studio material, demos, instrumentals . . . you name it. Hopefully, this is just the beginning, and there will be more to come. - -------- And I hope there is. Best, - -- Kevin S. Willis - ------------ Weathered Brick Textures 4 Weathered Wood Textures 4 Cut Stone/Stone Wall Textures 2 - ------------ http://www.textureworld.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:09:00 -0500 From: TextureWorld Subject: Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. At 1:30 AM -0700,4/10/02, Crackers said this: >http://launch.yahoo.com/read/feature.asp?contentID=208301 > >It's a very cute and clever interview and we're being teased once again with >the prospects of more music to come. Just read the article. He makes me suffer with his teasing and hinting. BTW, I'm not sure I've brought it up before, but has anybody else here listened to Babble? Formerly the Thompson Twins, they put out to albums before getting dumped by their label (who apparently wanted them to me more "Thompson Twinnish", which Mr. Dolby made me think of when he expressed his disinterest in re-treading the retro 80s thing). However, both Babble albums (Ether and The Stone) are really quite good, I thought. Hopefully, they will start self-publishing. I'm sure they're still making music, too. ;) Best, - -- Kevin S. Willis - ------------ Weathered Brick Textures 4 Weathered Wood Textures 4 Cut Stone/Stone Wall Textures 2 - ------------ http://www.textureworld.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:19:59 -0400 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: RE: Alloy: mistake Sorry, I can't bounce a message after it's been posted (that I know of..!) But smoe has built-in features which keep attachments from getting through. It helps defend against viruses and unwanted spam etc. Please don't worry though Paulo, no harm done :) xxx ~R ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:31:58 -0400 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: Alloy: article about Thomas/Beatnik in Financial Times Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: Article in Today's Financial Times Creative Business Supplement Thomas the tone engine Alan Cane and Nick Flaherty > Published: April 8 2002 11:47GMT | Last Updated: April 8 2002 13:42GMT Nashville, eat your heart out. San Mateo, a small town in mid-California, is shaping up as the epicentre of the music world - the electronic music world, that is. It is home not only to Napster, standard bearer for music sharing over the internet, but also to Beatnik, whose software is responsible for many of the sounds and music clips to be heard on websites today. Founded in 1996 by Thomas Dolby Robertson, the pop musician who pioneered much of the synthesized music which characterised the 1980s, the company is looking to the mobile business for its future. Dolby's debut album, The Golden Age of Wireless, was recorded in 1981 before the first cell phone bleeped into life. The title, however, is hugely symbolic of his current preoccupation with all things mobile and the technology that can be used to generate sounds from them. At its most elementary this means better, more complex, more musical ring-tones for mobile phones. At its most complex, it implies multimedia messaging services to phones and personal digital assistants of a richness and variety only hinted at in today's pallid offerings. "I think that mobile phone handsets capable of taking still pictures or videos and transmitting them has alerted people to the fact that we are on the threshold of a new technology," Dolby says. "With the arrival of instant messaging on handsets, it's impossible to believe there won't be a move to richer messaging in general." The secret behind the company's ability to wring music out of unpromising starting material is a piece of software it calls the "Beatnik Audio Engine". Small enough to be embedded in the memory of a mobile phone or a digital organiser, it is powerful enough to translate a monotonous stream of computer language "bits" into complex sounds. Think of it like a web browser: the transmitted data contains the musical score - all the information about tempos and keys, bars and beats: the audio engine reads the data and reconstitutes the music by "playing" a software model of each instrument. To perform this virtual musical feat it includes a music synthesizer, sample player, effects processor, a 64 channel stereo mixer and MP3 player. That is why instead of today's tinny ring tones, the audio engine can create up to 72 simultaneous sounds: a whole orchestra's worth, without the added cost of extra sound chips in the phone. Dolby and his colleagues, however, are looking beyond ring tones to rich multimedia messaging. They have made things simpler for themselves by adopting industry standard audio formats including XMF (eXtensible Music Format) for transmitting music files, MP3 and MIDI, the musical instrument digital interface recognised by all players of electronic music. Nobody quite understands where multimedia messaging is headed but Jeremy Copp, Beatnik's UK based senior vice-president of sales and marketing, argues the case for electronic trading cards like football cards - but with music clips attached. He forsees young people swapping their favourites - five Billy Braggs for one Britney Spears, for example - and using a commercial link to place orders for the CD. Part of the reason for Beatnik's optimism is the success of short messaging. Dolby says: "People are spending a pound or two for a ring tone. If you > could get a clip of a song for about the same amount then you are into e-cards. The whole microeconomy would be fuelled by the fact that the record companies and music companies could see the reason to do it." Beatnik remains a privately held group, backed by Zomba, the world's largest independent record label, as well as the Mayfield venture capital funds and Sun Microsystems among others. Revenues and profitability are not disclosed. But Copp is optimistic, pointing to the the group's recent licensing deal with Nokia, the world's largest handset manufacturer, as evidence that its mobile strategy is the right one. Employing some 250 people at the height of the internet boom when it was busy "sonifying" (adding sound and music) to web sites and browsers, it is now only 30 people strong. The leaner image is in tune with Dolby's strategy: "We are not investing ahead of the curve," he says. "If Nokia and the others are able to make multimedia messaging happen, we will have the chance to expand in that area. Right now the strongest demand is for ring tones." > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:52:19 -0700 From: "Crackers" Subject: Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "TextureWorld" > Just read the article. He makes me suffer with his teasing and hinting. Yeah, I know. Like when he wears those stockings with the seam that goes up the back with those short black mini-skirts! Errr... I mean... um.... This interview is OVER! Crackers (No comment from hell!!!) Ghastly's Ghastly Comic http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:00:55 -0700 From: "Crackers" Subject: Re: Alloy: Paucity... there's a word you don't see used much anymore. Well I've added my review to the Forty CD. - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - -=-=-= Customarily it is the birthday boy who gets the presents but with the new CD Forty it is musician Thomas Dolby who is dishing out the goodies. This isn't just another "best of" album. An intimate serving of seven songs selected from various moments in Thomas's career Forty offers a fresh perspective on familiar favorites. Thomas is backed by keyboardist and wind player Brian Salter who offers some very inspired EWI performances, as well as the cello of Caroline Lavelle and the vocals of Leslie Adams. Together they form a four piece combo whose sound is surprisingly big without sounding at all over produced. The recording has a very personal feel to it and much like the audience's calls heard during the final fade, the listener is left shouting for more. - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - -=-=-= Crackers (Now to write for Rolling Stone Magazine from hell!!!) Ghastly's Ghastly Comic http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:59:15 -0500 From: TextureWorld Subject: Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com At 10:31 AM -0400,4/10/02, Robin Thurlow said this: >Thomas has written to tell us of a full version of the Hot Sauce video he's >found on Launch.com. If you have a fast connection, please check it out at: > "Sorry, But You Cannot Use This Application on a Macintosh." Grumble, grumble. Best, - -- Kevin S. Willis - ------------ Tree Leaves and Bark Textures II Bush and Shrub Textures I Bark and Beam Textures I - ------------ http://www.textureworld.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 18:57:13 -0300 From: "Paulo" Subject: Re: Alloy: mistake - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Thurlow" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:19 PM Subject: RE: Alloy: mistake > Please don't worry though Paulo, no harm done :) > xxx > ~R Thanks for letting me know Robin Paulo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:04:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com I'm very surprised at this! I thought the music world was fairly Mac friendly... have you tried just going to Launch.com and seeing if there's a Mac-specific version? Like I know what I'm talking about, with all this jargon. I'm just guessing/hoping very hopefully that it will work on Macs too. So many people here use them. xx ~r TextureWorld wrote: "Sorry, But You Cannot Use This Application on a Macintosh." Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:30:16 -0700 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com At 05:04 PM 4/10/2002, Robin Thurlow wrote: > I'm very surprised at this! I thought the music world was fairly Mac > friendly.. the professional music software world is very mac-friendly. (there are still packages that come out on the mac first, and only later, if ever, make it to windows.) most high-end music studios use macs. the web world, however, is completely pc-centric. and at this point, internet explorer-centric. if you've got a windows pc and you use IE to surf, it's amazing going to any other platform and seeing how broken/unsupported everything else is. - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:36:55 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 07:59 am, TextureWorld stepped back in time and wrote: >> Thomas has written to tell us of a full version of the Hot Sauce video >> he's >> found on Launch.com. If you have a fast connection, please check it >> out at: >> > > "Sorry, But You Cannot Use This Application on a Macintosh." > > Grumble, grumble. Dude, don't get a Dell! :-) I took a look at the page source and found that the HTML comments were a little more helpful. Try getting hold of Netscape Communicator 4.7 (this doesn't work in OmniWeb, iCab, Mozilla, IE, or Communicator 6 - I wasn't taking no for an answer :-) and Windows Media Player 7 (not the Mac OS X version). Install both and try again using that browser. I think you'll get a nice surprise. This should work under Mac OS 8.5ish through to 9.2.2, and works nicely here when run in Classic on Mac OS X 10.1.3. HTH, give me a yell off list if you need a hand at all. cheers, Paul. This message powered by Rollercoaster/Everything But The Girl off Amplified Heart. [No, thankfully we've not been hit with the Dell Dude ads over here, I just read Joy of Tech too much...] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 23:57:42 -0400 From: Merujo Subject: Re: Alloy: Name the Mexican... Hot Sauce Video @ Launch.com Robin Thurlow wrote: > Thomas has written to tell us of a full version of the Hot Sauce video he's > found on Launch.com. If you have a fast connection, please check it out at: > That was fun - I've never seen it before! (I used to live under a rock...) > He mentions how pleased he is to see it again, especially the various Lost > Toy People in the Mariachi backup band. Also, a contest is proposed... > Thomas thinks his Mexican band leader alter-ego needs a name! All > suggestions will be seriously considered, even if you were only kidding :) Hmmm... El Vez is taken (by the marvelous Mexican-American Elvis dude - GREAT in concert, btw) Manuel Overdrive? (It's classier than "Manuel Relief") ChiChi Ceviche? Tomas de la Tierra Plana? I was entering silly things in the Babel Fish like "hot English" and "spicy buns" - I put in "hot shorts" and it came up with, rather amusingly, "calientes cortocircuitos" - which I think means "hot short circuits." Not quite what I'd intended... I love challenges like this. Too much fun! Seqor Picante y su gente perdida del juguete! Babel Fish is a fun toy, but in the hands of a linguistic dilletante, it can be a dangerous weapon, overflowing with bad grammar and cultural faux pas! - -- Melissa R. Jordan Scusarlo, ma stato che la vostra antilope? Sta ostruendo il mio automobile dentro e devo andare per effettuare un exorcism." ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V7 #71 **************************