From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V7 #37 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, February 21 2002 Volume 07 : Number 037 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? [Paul Baily ] Alloy: Re: Real Tennis ["Robin Thurlow" ] Re: Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? ["Crackers" ] RE: Alloy: Re: Real Tennis ["Philip P Woodcock" ] Re: Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? [Brian Clayton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:48:18 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? Hi y'all, Forgive me for venting but... Well, tonight Australia finally got with the naughties and, after much anticipation, I just saw the first episode of Enterprise. Now, aside from a sneaking feeling I had that some cigar smoking guy should materialise at any moment looking for Sam Beckett (I mean that in an affectionate way, I think he's a good pick and quite liked QL) I think it looks really promising. But what the HOCKEY PUCK is it with that theme music!? I haven't listened to something like that since accidentally stumbling on to some show that makes Neighbours look intelligent about Texas Rangers (starring Chuck, produced by Chuck, directed by Chuck, Chuck's the 'brightest' on the show, oh and Chuck thinks he can sing too... I mean who does he think he is? Bette Middler? But I digress...) Please, someone tell me season two's theme is completely different. Please? :-) P. This message powered by something - *anything* - but the theme music of ST:E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:29:04 -0500 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: Alloy: Re: Real Tennis is this the same interview in which Thomas says the first ever tennis balls were made of ferret heads wrapped in twine? I know it sounds silly, but some of the strangest things I'd thought Thomas was joking about have turned out to be true, so it's got me wondering! But why a ferret? it seems like a cat head would be more symetrically balanced. If one were going to use a head to play tennis with, that is (???) xxx ~R ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:19:22 -0800 From: "Crackers" Subject: Re: Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Baily" > But what the HOCKEY PUCK is it with that theme music!? . "It's been a long road... " That's the Enterprise theme in our house. If you read the startrek newsgroups you'll see that about 95% of the fans absolutely hate the themesong. For some reason people just don't associate an 80s cock-rock power ballad with "Star Trek". For me it just brings back bad memories of the movie Patch Adams (that's where the song made it's first appearance, sung then by Rod Stewart). Will the song be changing in the next season? Nope. Berman and Bragga are two very arrogant people and changing the themesong would be admitting they were wrong for choosing it in the first place and in B&B's minds they are infallable. Instead they're just doing interviews saying anyone who doesn't like the new themesong is a basement dwelling 40 year old virgin who sleeps in Star Trek pajamas and simply hate anything that isn't TOS Trek. For the most part the new ST series is pretty good. Althought they'd do well to make sure they don't let the actor who plays Travis Mayweather do too much acting. Much like George Takei he should be limited to "ahead warp factor 3, steady as she goes" (George Takei is a sweetheart but dear sweet mother of god the man just can't act) . The only episode I've absolutely hated so far is the one that dealt with evolution. Infact I've hated absolutely every Star Trek episode that has dealt with evolutionary science because in each and every one of them they completely screw up the science. I swear there's a creationist at work at Paramount secretly subverting every episode of Star Trek dealing with evolutionary science to make evolution look like a joke. As an anthropology major this irks me to no end. They just don't understand what evolution is and how it works yet they keep writing horrible, horrible evolution episodes with such rediculous evolutionary theory that it only fuels creationists to say "Look at how impossible evolution is!" I swear if I see one more botched evolution episode of Star Trek I'm flying to hollywood and I'm going to ram my dick down the throats of each and every hollywood writer/director/producer and then fuck some sense into their empty heads! Crackers (Ranting and raving from hell!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:20:51 -0000 From: "Sally Allan" Subject: Re: Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? Crackers screamed and I censored: > I swear if I see one more botched evolution episode of Star Trek I'm flying > to hollywood and I'm going to ram my down the throats of each and every > hollywood writer/director/producer and then some sense into their empty > heads! I wouldn't if I were you: it will just give them a story idea in which your unique style of complaining leads to the evolution of a new kind of alien ;-) Sally PS Robin, talking of ferrets, where's that cute ferret picture? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:24:45 -0800 From: "Crackers" Subject: Alloy: Woohoo!!! A winner is me! Just had to dance for joy and crow like a rooster. Infogrames has dropped it's pending legal actions against me over my use of the word Atari on mechandise for my Bira Bira webpage ( http://birabira.chaosmagic.com ) where I sold T-shirts with a picture of Bira Bira on them and the sentance "My other computer is an Atari 2600". Thank you Mattel Vs. Aqua you saved my ass from having to go to court! And remember people! Never back down when your rights to freedom of expression are being challenged! No matter how big and powerful your opponent is. Know your rights and let them know you know your rights. This must be how Thomas felt when he finally triumphed over Dolby labs! Look at me dance! Look at me dance! Woohoo!! Crackers (One happy guy from hell!!!) Ghastly's Ghastly Comic http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:11:42 -0000 From: "Philip P Woodcock" Subject: RE: Alloy: Re: Real Tennis Not sure about the ferret heads... Did anybody else see this interview? I remember the TV programme was presented by a very annoying London 'Geezer'. I had another memory the other day... Do any of the British members remember TMDR on 'Pebble Mill At One' on the Beeb performing 'Windpower'? He did performed as a one-man band (if you don't count Henry the PPG) and he swirled and luminescent tube like thing around his head. He probably scared the living daylights out of Bob Langley!!! apologies to the bemused colonnial members - -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Robin Thurlow Sent: 20 February 2002 14:29 To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: Re: Real Tennis is this the same interview in which Thomas says the first ever tennis balls were made of ferret heads wrapped in twine? I know it sounds silly, but some of the strangest things I'd thought Thomas was joking about have turned out to be true, so it's got me wondering! But why a ferret? it seems like a cat head would be more symetrically balanced. If one were going to use a head to play tennis with, that is (???) xxx ~R - --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.324 / Virus Database: 181 - Release Date: 14/02/2002 - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:09:12 -0000 From: "Philip P Woodcock" Subject: Alloy: Real Tennis again... I found this on Britannica Real Tennis... also called COURT TENNIS, OR ROYAL TENNIS, racket sport that is descended from and almost identical to the medieval tennis game jeu de paume ("game of the palm"). Real tennis has been played since the Middle Ages, but the game has become almost completely obscured by its own descendant, lawn tennis. Although real tennis contributed its name and scoring system to lawn tennis, real tennis is now played at fewer than 30 courts in the world. The court at Hampton Court palace, where Henry VIII played, is still used occasionally. Real tennis is played on an indoor court with four irregularly sized walls, using pear-shaped, lopsided rackets to hit cloth balls that are much harder than those used in lawn tennis. Roofs to the court slope over a net that is 1.5 m (5 feet) high at its sides and 0.9 m (3 feet) in the middle. The construction of a court is complex and difficult, and the declining number of players discourages the building of new courts. The world real tennis championship is decided by challenge match, in which a player challenges the champion to defend his title. Pierre Etchebaster held the world title from 1938 to 1954, when he retired at the age of 61. - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/2002 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:53:16 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Paul Baily wrote: > Forgive me for venting but... Forgiven. :) > Please, someone tell me season two's theme is completely different. > Please? :-) I'll let you know, once season two begins in September. Don't hold your breath, though. BC - -- begin This .signature is unreadable in Microsoft Outlook. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:14:36 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: [OT] ST:E theme - what the!? On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Crackers wrote: > "It's been a long road... " > > That's the Enterprise theme in our house. Ah, my tag line lives on! :) > Will the song be changing in the next season? Nope. Berman and Bragga > are two very arrogant people and changing the themesong would be > admitting they were wrong for choosing it in the first place and in > B&B's minds they are infallable. Instead they're just doing interviews > saying anyone who doesn't like the new themesong is a basement > dwelling 40 year old virgin who sleeps in Star Trek pajamas and simply > hate anything that isn't TOS Trek. Sadly, this analysis is pretty much dead-on. I'm under the impression that B&B are treating Enterprise as The Way The Original Series *Should* Have Been Done. The whole thing smacks of revisionism, starting with the fact that the series follows the adventures of an "earlier" starship Enterprise that NO ONE HAS EVERY HEARD OF BEFORE. I suspect that by the end of series, B&B expect to have accumulated a fresh, young audience which will consider Deep Space Nine as "classic" Trek, and who will look quizzically at the grey-haired fans and sincerely ask them, "Spock who?" On the other hand, maybe this show isn't even *supposed* to be Star Trek. Have you noticed it's not called "Star Trek: Enterprise", in the fashion of the previous series? Just "Enterprise". Star what? Gene who? > The only episode I've absolutely hated so far is the one that dealt with > evolution. This episode was pretty thoroughly thrashed every where it was brought up on Usenet. Trek writers seem to treat evolution as a deus ex machina to help push the plot in whatever direction that they please. Still, with something like 600+ produced episodes, the odds are that at least one story got it right, not that I can think of one right now... BC (listening to his rants echoing around the basement) - -- begin This .signature is unreadable in Microsoft Outlook. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V7 #37 **************************