From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #313 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, December 8 2001 Volume 06 : Number 313 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? [jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com] Re: Alloy: i scare myself [TextureWorld ] Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? [TextureWorld As Jorma Ollila, Chief Executive of Nokia said "It'll give you a slew of new > ways to annoy the heck out of your friends and colleagues!" > > How true, and not just your friends and colleagues. > > Pardon my rant. > > Slarv Slarv, an excellent rant but I think you'll find that the author of that oh-so-true statement was not Jorma Ollila but in fact our very own Thomas Dolby! JO would hardly dis mobile phones as being annoying would he! I know it was a tongue-in-cheek statement but I was pretty surprised that it go through into the press-release. I know that I'm very old fashioned but I like my phone to sound, well, like a phone actually. Frankly I don't understand the fascination with having these stupid bloody ring tones. Has anyone else considered how daft this is? Let's say that for some tres mucho bizarro reason you feel the urgent need to program your phone to play your favorite song as a ring tone. Well normally when I want to listen to my favorite songs *I just go and play them* but having one as a ring tone means that normally you don't get to hear it unless it gets initiated by someone else calling you. OK, let's say someone calls you. Oh joy! Oh rapture! You get to hear your favorite song but guess what... You then cancel it by accepting the call so you don't get to hear it afterall...doh! Now where, members of the jury, is the logic there? Kids eh? Well it pays my salary so I guess I shouldn't complain. The general idea is that your chosen ringing tone is some kind of an extension of your personality. Personally I think that IQ has a direct relationship with chosen ringing-tone but that's another story entirely... It's bloody cold up here in Santaland but at least the snow has brightened things up a tad. Lissu was here a couple of weeks ago (Hi!) and we met up for the evening which was great. A glass or two was raised as you can probably imagine. A mini-Alloy meet not that far from the Arctic circle is not something that happens every day and I really enjoyed being able to put a real face to the name at last. I only intended to pop in for a short time but ended up getting home at 01:30 or something which is kind of unusual for me these days. Anyway, I'm back on the list again and hasn't it been quiet. I looked at the digests on the web last week and on several days there had been no posts whatsoever. 'morning all, Jon DISCLAIMER: The stuff in this email does not reflect the opinions of Nokia in any way, rather, it is the superfluous drivel of someone who just happens to work there. Contain no added salt or preservatives. Do not operate machinery or drive whilst reading this mail. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:00:51 -0500 From: TextureWorld Subject: Re: Alloy: i scare myself Slarvibarglhee wrote: > >As Jorma Ollila, Chief Executive of Nokia said "It'll give you a slew of new >ways to annoy the heck out of your friends and colleagues!" > >How true, and not just your friends and colleagues. Which means the potential is unlimited. I'm all for it. ;) - -- Kevin S. Willis - ------------ Roof & Shingle Textures I Human Skin & Hair Textures I Moon & Planet Textures - ------------ http://www.textureworld.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:04:44 -0500 From: TextureWorld Subject: Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: >Now where, members of the jury, is the logic there? >Kids eh? Well it pays my salary so I guess I shouldn't complain. The general >idea is that your chosen ringing tone is some kind of an extension of your >personality. Personally I think that IQ has a direct relationship with >chosen ringing-tone but that's another story entirely... Variability of ringing tone can have certain advantages. Picking your phone out of a sea of ringing telephones is one (I like mine to be unique; often picking the not quite musical but not exactly a telephone ring works best). But I would like to be able to vary ring tone by who is calling . . . Best, - -- Kevin S. Willis - ------------ Skull and Bone Textures 1 Human Skin and Hair Textures 1 Bush and Shrub Textures 1 - ------------ http://www.textureworld.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:07:15 -0500 From: TextureWorld Subject: Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: >Has anyone else considered how daft this is? >Let's say that for some tres mucho bizarro reason you feel the urgent need >to program your phone to play your favorite song as a ring tone. I just think it would be cool to have "Flying North" as my telephone ring. Or the first 8 bars of "She Blinded Me With Science" . . . I could at least listen to the first bit before answering the phone, ya know. ;) Best, - -- Kevin S. Willis - ------------ Stressed Metal Textures 4 Metal Plate and Hull Textures Vol. 1 - ------------ Or get 'em all! Over 1800 textures on 3 CDs! http://www.textureworld.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 11:16:03 -0500 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: > Has anyone else considered how daft this is? > Let's say that for some tres mucho bizarro reason you feel the urgent need > to program your phone to play your favorite song as a ring tone. Well > normally when I want to listen to my favorite songs *I just go and play > them* but having one as a ring tone means that normally you don't get to > hear it unless it gets initiated by someone else calling you. > OK, let's say someone calls you. Oh joy! Oh rapture! You get to hear your > favorite song but guess what... You then cancel it by accepting the call so > you don't get to hear it afterall...doh! Not knowing anything about the technology and all... I wonder if it will ever be likely that non-music sounds can be programmed as the 'ring' tone. Bird song is something that would appeal to me, personally, for example.. the naturally repetitive nature of a bird call would fit in with the phone ring. Animal calls in general would be nice (imagine the sudden outburst of a dog barking inside your jacket!). Can human voices ever conceivably be used? xxx ~R ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:18:20 +0100 From: lulfstedt@amadeus.net Subject: Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? Robin wrote: >I wonder if it will ever be >likely that non-music sounds can be programmed as the 'ring' tone. Yes they can! I remember from my days at Nokia (wow,...can it really be over 5 years ago?) one of the guys in our office had his Nokia communicator set to ring with a human voice, which said,..'ring ring,....ring ring,...' in a monotonous voice,....! On the (musical) note,....have a good weekend, one and all! Lissu :-) From: Robin Thurlow @smoe.org on 07/12/2001 11:16 EST Please respond to alloy@smoe.org Sent by: owner-alloy@smoe.org To: alloy@smoe.org cc: Subje Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is ct: this thing on? jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: > Has anyone else considered how daft this is? > Let's say that for some tres mucho bizarro reason you feel the urgent need > to program your phone to play your favorite song as a ring tone. Well > normally when I want to listen to my favorite songs *I just go and play > them* but having one as a ring tone means that normally you don't get to > hear it unless it gets initiated by someone else calling you. > OK, let's say someone calls you. Oh joy! Oh rapture! You get to hear your > favorite song but guess what... You then cancel it by accepting the call so > you don't get to hear it afterall...doh! Not knowing anything about the technology and all... I wonder if it will ever be likely that non-music sounds can be programmed as the 'ring' tone. Bird song is something that would appeal to me, personally, for example.. the naturally repetitive nature of a bird call would fit in with the phone ring. Animal calls in general would be nice (imagine the sudden outburst of a dog barking inside your jacket!). Can human voices ever conceivably be used? xxx ~R ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:40:53 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? Human voices would work - I could see programming a "cough - cough" sound. Would be less noticeable in a theater or on a bus. But you'd know the sound of your coughing phone. - -Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Thurlow" To: Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? > > jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: > > > Has anyone else considered how daft this is? > > Let's say that for some tres mucho bizarro reason you feel the urgent need > > to program your phone to play your favorite song as a ring tone. Well > > normally when I want to listen to my favorite songs *I just go and play > > them* but having one as a ring tone means that normally you don't get to > > hear it unless it gets initiated by someone else calling you. > > OK, let's say someone calls you. Oh joy! Oh rapture! You get to hear your > > favorite song but guess what... You then cancel it by accepting the call so > > you don't get to hear it afterall...doh! > > Not knowing anything about the technology and all... I wonder if it will ever be > likely that non-music sounds can be programmed as the 'ring' tone. Bird song is > something that would appeal to me, personally, for example.. the naturally > repetitive nature of a bird call would fit in with the phone ring. Animal calls > in general would be nice (imagine the sudden outburst of a dog barking inside > your jacket!). Can human voices ever conceivably be used? > > xxx > ~R ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:18:14 +0000 From: Philip P Woodcock Subject: Re: Alloy: Cough, splutter, is this thing on? In message , TextureWorld writes >I just think it would be cool to have "Flying North" as my telephone >ring. Or the first 8 bars of "She Blinded Me With Science" . . . I >could at least listen to the first bit before answering the phone, ya >know. ;) > >Best, Slightly off topic, I do have the riff from 'Underpass' by that other synth pioneer John Foxx on my phone (ericsson). An awful lot of young clubber types ask what the tune is too! I might try to work Flying North out as I know the notes to the riff - -- Philip P Woodcock ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #313 ***************************