From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #291 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, November 6 2001 Volume 06 : Number 291 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth ["p.latham2" ] Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth ["Andy Venables" ] Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth ["Chris & Beena Cracknell" ] Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth [Robin Thurlow ] Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist ["David Abbitt" ] Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist ["David Abbitt" ] Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth ["David Abbitt" ] Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist ["David Abbitt" ] Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V6 #290 [Kathleen Presser Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth I think David has hit the nail on the head , Therapy Growth - a B side gem. As far as im aware it has not turned up on any CD release , or anywhere else except for Europa - i think it deserves better treatment. Maybe if Thomas wants to sort a new LP out with those tracks hes already written , maybe he could include rare tracks like Therapy Growth, Jungle Line (low noise), Urban tribal (low noise), and if he has any rights to them tracks like Year 2000, and the Fallout Club tracks -- ***especially Falling Years / Beat Boys*********yes its still eluding me. Also an update in regards my Bruce Woolley collection -- ive possibly tracked down two further items --- both from around 1976 / 1977 but Thomas isnt involved on them -- by Boogatti , & by RB Zipper -- just now depends whether the record shops & postman can help. Anyone who is interested in Bruce ---- try WWW.geocities.com/woolleyfans , by Timothy Schoonover in the US. Hes only 21 so most Bruce Woolley recordings hes got were released before he was born -- Take a look at the site -- Cheers Paul. - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Abbitt To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 8:39 PM Subject: Alloy: Therapy Growth > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:40:37 -0000, Paul sayeth: > > >By the way how many others out there love -- Therapy / Growth. - > >marvellous. > > I couldn't agree more. Therapy/Growth was the first B-Side I'd ever heard > by Thomas, having purchased the 7" vinyl record sometime in the mid-eighties > at the local record trader. The song conjures up dreamy images with lyrics > like, "I was dreaming of a life on the farm. My friend Rover, and a pipe in > my hand.". It also has more serious connotations in the verse where Thomas > seems to be espousing his personal views on a particular relationship, "And > I ain't gonna spend my time with you if time is so important. And I ain't > gonna worry over you, lending a resistance to the game. But you won't find > me bending over to justify existence, while working on a weakness. And I > don't want to know the secrets of the universe." That "relationship" > doesn't necessarily have to involve another person, either, as it could be > about Mr. Dolby battling personal demons of some sort. Musically it sounds > like a precursor to songs like "The Flat Earth" and "Screen Kiss" with its > lush soundscapes and samples. A true B-Side gem. > > -Dabbitt > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:10:16 +0800 From: "Andy Venables" Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth It's certainly a darn good track. Does anyone know what the looping french lyrics are, please? Cheers, +AJ+ - -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 08:47:07 -0500 From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Abbitt" > I couldn't agree more. Therapy/Growth was the first B-Side I'd ever heard > by Thomas, having purchased the 7" vinyl record sometime in the mid-eighties > at the local record trader. The song conjures up dreamy images with lyrics > like, "I was dreaming of a life on the farm. "Secret sauce... ruins my shirt Secret sauce... ruins my shirt." Crackers (Maybe it was a hot sauce from hell!!) Ghastly's Ghastly Comic - http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 06:19:40 -0800 From: "David Abbitt" Subject: Alloy: Therapy Growth MP3 Another note on Therapy Growth, and I hesitate writing this as I don't know what the climate on Alloy is regarding copyright infringement and file-sharing. About seven months ago while using one of the file sharing services (don't remember which) I discovered an MP3 that someone had made using both sides of the "Europa/Therapy Growth" vinyl single. Of course I immediately downloaded it, half-expecting it to be either of really bad sound quality or having it be simply the "Europa" track though the file was listed at 7+ minutes in length. I was pleasantly surprised when I listened and found I had actually discovered a pristine version of both songs back to back. Using a sound editor I took out Europa and so now I have an excellent MP3 of Therapy Growth ripped off vinyl. Since the song has never been released on CD commercially and is out of print, and since I have no intention of selling it, I wonder how Thomas might feel about me offering the file to the members of Alloy through email? I wouldn't dare share it without his permission, but I think it's worth bringing up here since so many seem to want a version they can listen to without having to hook up the old record player to the hi-fi. Thomas, if you're reading, what do you think? - -Dabbitt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:46:46 -0500 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth David Abbitt wrote: > The song conjures up dreamy images with lyrics > like, "I was dreaming of a life on the farm. My friend Rover, and a pipe in > my hand.". I thought it was "wife and Rover..." to sum up the expected 'normal' expected predetermined goals set forth by western society... to settle down and have a predictable existence. > It also has more serious connotations in the verse where Thomas > seems to be espousing his personal views on a particular relationship, "And > I ain't gonna spend my time with you if time is so important. And I ain't > gonna worry over you, lending a resistance to the game. But you won't find > me bending over to justify existence, while working on a weakness. And I > don't want to know the secrets of the universe." That "relationship" > doesn't necessarily have to involve another person, either, as it could be > about Mr. Dolby battling personal demons of some sort. I'd always thought of it as a direct comment on New Age-ism, in which people tend to be inwardly focused, talking in circles about themselves and their places in the world, all the while pretty much excluding themselves from it. Too much dwelling on different aspects of life, and too little living in it. When his girlfriend was waylaid by her accupuncturist for example.. she should have been with Thomas (narrator), but instead was away having what many would have considered a 'new age' experience, especially at the time this song was written. The line about "spending time" reminds me of when I blundered into the hands of the Dianetics people when first moving to Boston, and desperate for a job. I had never heard of them & thought it was some kind of school (which is how they presented themselves to me) After wasting an entire day filling out their paperwork and even taking a long quiz, the results of which told me I was a hopeless piece of crap who desperately needed their influence, they took me into a small room, where a man explained I was expected to work approx. 40 hours per week for no predetermined payrate. When I said i couldn't possibly do this, he said that amongst the paperwork i'd filed out before, I'd signed some kind of legal document that I would have to keep my mouth shut about everything I'd seen there or else I'd be in huge trouble. He then walked me to a huge room where every piece of paper that anyone had ever signed was filed (wished I had a blowtorch!) and their whereabouts supposedly kept track of. It's always nice being threatened on an empty stomach. Anyway... obvious sore spot from way back. But in any case I'd thought "Therapy/Growth" was a comment about reality being the best way to learn about oneself, not therapy. xxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:58:41 -0800 From: "David Abbitt" Subject: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:46:46 -0500, Robin sayeth: >The line about "spending time" reminds me of when I blundered into the >hands of the Dianetics people when first moving to Boston, and desperate >for a job. I had never heard of them & thought it was some >kind of school (which is how they presented themselves to me) After >wasting an entire day filling out their paperwork and even taking a >long quiz, the results of which told me I was a hopeless piece of crap >who desperately needed their influence, they took me into a small >room, where a man explained I was expected to work approx. 40 hours >per week for no predetermined payrate. When I said i couldn't >possibly do this, he said that amongst the paperwork i'd filed out >before, I'd signed some kind of legal document that I would have to >keep my mouth shut about everything I'd seen there or else I'd be in >huge trouble. He then walked me to a huge room where every piece of >paper that anyone had ever signed was filed (wished I had a >blowtorch!) and their whereabouts supposedly kept track of. It's >always nice being threatened on an empty stomach. That's an interesting story, Robin. I'm wondering what you saw there that they were so intent on shutting you up about. - -Dabb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist > That's an interesting story, Robin. I'm wondering what you saw there that > they were so intent on shutting you up about. Since a member of my husband's family has become hopelessly entangled in something similar (LEC) I'm quite curious too. I keep being told it's harmless. Doesn't sound harmless to me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 16:47:48 -0500 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist David Abbitt wrote: > I'm wondering what you saw there that > they were so intent on shutting you up about. I still have no idea, exactly. All I can think of is that the guy I spoke with (named "Bobby Brown") who made the threat, had carried on like a hebephrenic during our conversation, talking about their eventual goal of overthrowing the government secretly from within.... since the goal of their group has something to do with true potential being actualised, or something. Maybe that's what I was supposed to keep quiet about? Was it the TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY bit, I wonder? (ooops... SHHHH!!... if i'm done in now, you'll have a fair idea of who it was, I guess. Please leave my body to the sculpture department at my University) The rest of the day at the dianetics place merely consisted of me being told how much I need to associate myself with this group and give them all of my time and money, because without them I was a poor lost soul. That couldn't have been the big secret as they tell this to everyone. But, whatever. There are hospitals full of people who believe it's their destiny to take over the world. I don't know why he even told me of their "diabolical plan". I assumed he was just a loony with financial backing for his cause... until he made the threat later, which then made him a potentially dangerous stalker loony, w/backing. xxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:08:24 -0600 From: "Bill Krzysko" Subject: RE: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist There are quite a few websites that have details about the activities of this group. Some of it is really hard to believe. I do know that an organization called the Cult Awareness Network work to help people get out of cults. The Church kept sueing them, and eventully they had to pay huge amounts of money. They now run the Cult Awareness Network, so if someone calls there hotline looking for help, they end up talking to a Scientologist. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Robin Thurlow Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 3:48 PM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist David Abbitt wrote: > I'm wondering what you saw there that > they were so intent on shutting you up about. I still have no idea, exactly. All I can think of is that the guy I spoke with (named "Bobby Brown") who made the threat, had carried on like a hebephrenic during our conversation, talking about their eventual goal of overthrowing the government secretly from within.... since the goal of their group has something to do with true potential being actualised, or something. Maybe that's what I was supposed to keep quiet about? Was it the TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY bit, I wonder? (ooops... SHHHH!!... if i'm done in now, you'll have a fair idea of who it was, I guess. Please leave my body to the sculpture department at my University) The rest of the day at the dianetics place merely consisted of me being told how much I need to associate myself with this group and give them all of my time and money, because without them I was a poor lost soul. That couldn't have been the big secret as they tell this to everyone. But, whatever. There are hospitals full of people who believe it's their destiny to take over the world. I don't know why he even told me of their "diabolical plan". I assumed he was just a loony with financial backing for his cause... until he made the threat later, which then made him a potentially dangerous stalker loony, w/backing. xxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 20:29:27 +0000 From: Chris Good Subject: Re: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V6 #288 Kathleen Presser wrote: > > Chris, > When did you meet Lene Lovich?? What was she like? It will be 23 years on 13th November which was my first meeting with Lene on the Be Stiff '78 tour in Guildford. We didn't really say that much to each other as I just asked for her autograph. We met again in Feb '79 when she did a solo tour and played a local gig in Portsmouth. Because it was a student gig (and I wasn't a student) they wouldn't let me in so I ended up listening to the gig through a side door. When I told her this after the gig she put me on the guest list for the next gig which coincidentally just happened to be Guildford. I lost count of the number of times we've met since. Needless to say she's a wonderful person. > Also, what was it like to meet the Man himself? Just > really curious. I only had brief meetings with Tom after gigs with other fans getting autographs. Most of the time it was asking if he knew what Lene was doing so can't really say what he was like. He always remembered who we were and stopped for a chat. - -- 'til the next time, Chris (Room 1 - Blue Hotel) - --- Blue Hotel's HOME on the Web - http://www.bluehotel.co.uk News - Reviews - Discography - Biography - Pix - Lyrics - Links - more ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:29:50 -0800 From: "David Abbitt" Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist One of the acting schools I had been attending the last two years was founded by a Scientologist by the name of Milton Katsellas, and there were undertones of Scientologist philosophies and directives in the way the school and teaching was administered, though the Scientologists who attend and run the school, and the founder himself would probably rebuke that statement. Perhaps it's no coincidence that former President Ronald Reagan was an actor, and there is now an acting school with a Scientologist underbelly? Did I mention I'll be running for office in the next election? The Revolution absolutely will be televised, you just won't see it. - -Dabbitt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 23:43:03 +0000 From: Slarvibarglhee Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist Elaine Linstruth wrote: > > That's an interesting story, Robin. I'm wondering what you saw there that > > they were so intent on shutting you up about. > > Since a member of my husband's family has become hopelessly entangled in > something similar (LEC) I'm quite curious too. I keep being told it's > harmless. > > Doesn't sound harmless to me. RIGHT!! They said that about the Branch Davidians or whatever cult those Waco people belonged to, and Jim Jones' group in South America, to name but two. Seems that a lot end up dead eventually. They're very charismatic, some might say devious, and it's tricky to extricate yourself from their clutches once they've got hold of you. Trouble is, there's so damn many of them these days it's hard to know which ones are the loonies and which are the genuine article, and by the time you find out it might be too late. Perhaps we should start our own Church of Alloyites, with Alloyite Accolites who travel around in Alloyite Microlights. Or have we already been indoctrinated into the Flat Earth Society without even realising it? Slarv P.S. Robin might not be a Scientologist, but is Batman? If so, it it too late to save Robin? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 23:33:24 +0000 From: Slarvibarglhee Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth Robin Thurlow wrote: > The line about "spending time" reminds me of when I blundered into the > hands of the Dianetics people when first moving to Boston, and desperate for a > job. I had never heard of them & thought it was some kind of school (which is > how they presented themselves to me) After wasting an entire day filling out > their paperwork and even taking a long quiz, the results of which told me I was > a hopeless piece of crap who desperately needed their influence, they took me > into a small room, where a man explained I was expected to work approx. 40 hours > per week for no predetermined payrate. When I said i couldn't possibly do this, > he said that amongst the paperwork i'd filed out before, I'd signed some kind of > legal document that I would have to keep my mouth shut about everything I'd seen > there or else I'd be in huge trouble. He then walked me to a huge room where > every piece of paper that anyone had ever signed was filed (wished I had a > blowtorch!) and their whereabouts supposedly kept track of. It's always nice > being threatened on an empty stomach. > These people are bonkers AND they change the rules to meet their own needs. A few years ago one came to the door selling L Ron Hubbard's 'Dianetics' book. I can't remember how much they said it cost, but they did say the price would be going up because so many people were buying it that they'd have to print some more. I don't know much about economics, but I always thought that things were generally cheaper per unit if you made more of them. But not according to them. On a related issue, the Church of Scientology is banned from advertising vacancies at government run employment offices in the UK as they are not a 'class 1 employer,' in other words they don't pay you a wage, nor do they pay employment tax or natonal insurance contributions. However, there's always a board outside their 'shop' in Manchester saying they have vacancies, as well as inviting passers-by to take their 'personality test' which invariably tells you you that (in Robin's words) you are a hopeless piece of crap and your only hope of salvation is to hand over all your worldly goods to them and spend the rest of your life recruiting others to the cause. I seem to remember reading somewhere that L Ron spent the last few years of his life aboard a yacht because he was wanted for fraud in so many countries that he'd have been arrested on sight. But that could be an urban legend type of thing. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:48:31 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist The Church of Thomas Dolby and the Latter Day Synths - members known as the "Alloys". May the cube be with you - and your father. Amen. - -Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Slarvibarglhee" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist > > Elaine Linstruth wrote: > > > > That's an interesting story, Robin. I'm wondering what you saw there that > > > they were so intent on shutting you up about. > > > > Since a member of my husband's family has become hopelessly entangled in > > something similar (LEC) I'm quite curious too. I keep being told it's > > harmless. > > > > Doesn't sound harmless to me. > > RIGHT!! They said that about the Branch Davidians or whatever cult those Waco > people belonged to, and Jim Jones' group in South America, to name but two. > Seems that a lot end up dead eventually. They're very charismatic, some might > say devious, and it's tricky to extricate yourself from their clutches once > they've got hold of you. Trouble is, there's so damn many of them these days > it's hard to know which ones are the loonies and which are the genuine article, > and by the time you find out it might be too late. > > Perhaps we should start our own Church of Alloyites, with Alloyite Accolites who > travel around in Alloyite Microlights. Or have we already been indoctrinated > into the Flat Earth Society without even realising it? > > Slarv > > P.S. Robin might not be a Scientologist, but is Batman? If so, it it too late > to save Robin? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:41:38 EST From: Bluemeitz@cs.com Subject: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #290 reply Dabbitt: Lucky you to obtain the 7 inch with Therapy as the b-side. Being a Dolby fan, I never even heard of this one, or other ones, much less known he even recorded anything different besides his albums. I heard of a few side projects such as: Get out of my Mix, Dont turn Away (from Howard the Duck), Fieldwork, and the tracks from live Wireless. Much less to my surprise it was only only when during the net boom of the 90's when I discovered a few sites and a younger bro sent me a few more that I had known of those other b-sides. Ebay helped out a bit. I bought Urges/Leipzig 7 inch vinyl on the Armagedden label and a uk Hyperactive cd single with a studio version of Puppet Theatre on it. And of course when Napster was in full swing. I downloaded all the tracks on live wireless, a rare find indeed, and few other ones that never heard before like Therapy, Wreck of Fairchild, and Dissidents part 1 and 2. I suspect there are more like as mentioned a studio version of Urban Tribal and and Jungle Line. Whoever has these it would nice for a swap among alloy members. I'll bet you all didn't destroy of your old napster song downloads... Fess up everyone. Who has what? Let's start a petition to Tom to push all of this rare stuff on an authorized release, like the recent OMD B-Side Collection, and release Live Wireless on a cd, maybe with extra tracks, and a DVD as well. Anyone out there feel the same? Hmmm...... Walt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:03:57 -0500 From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Stansell" > The Church of Thomas Dolby and the Latter Day Synths - members known as the > "Alloys". > > May the cube be with you - and your father. Amen. And so did Thomas cometh down from the studio and held he in his arms an eel pie, and written upon the eel pie were the commandments. Thou shalt have no other Cubes before me. Thou shalt not be cruel. Thou shalt not be an airhead. Thou shalt not partake of pudding excepting that it be the second course. Thou shalt not read thine own writing. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's dirty Datsun nor the keys to their Ferrari nor rip thou off thy neighbour's cigars. Thou shalt observe radio silence. Thou shalt open thine heart like a spam tin. Thou shalt drinketh not in the hills, drinketh thou in the valleys. Thou shalt think of thine mother. And lo the people beheld the eel pie and saw that it was good and taketh they the crowbar and the drill and annointeth they the fist of iron in a glove full of vasceline and buildeth they a drug catherdral in the shape of an octahedron. Crackers (Take that you scientologist freaks from hell!!!) Ghastly's Ghastly Comic - http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:35:36 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Alloy: more Dolby commandments > Thou shalt have no other Cubes before me. > Thou shalt not be cruel. > Thou shalt not be an airhead. > Thou shalt not partake of pudding excepting that it be the second course. > Thou shalt not read thine own writing. > Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's dirty Datsun nor the keys to their > Ferrari nor rip thou off thy neighbour's cigars. > Thou shalt observe radio silence. > Thou shalt open thine heart like a spam tin. > Thou shalt drinketh not in the hills, drinketh thou in the valleys. > Thou shalt think of thine mother. Thou shalt switch off thine mind, and let thine heart decide. Thou shalt not point a raygun, lest thou explodest. Thou shalt come close, but thou shalt not obtain a cigar. Thou shalt takest away stale pulp culture. Thou shalt distill the urban tribal from thine blood. Thou shalt not scare thineself. Thou shalt not let go of a dream, for there is great beauty therein. BC - -- "Faith is an island in the setting sun, but Proof is the bottom line for everyone." -- Paul Simon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 18:46:42 -0800 From: "David Abbitt" Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy Growth On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 23:33:24 +0000, Slarv sayeth: >These people are bonkers AND they change the rules to meet their own >needs. A few years ago one came to the door selling L Ron >Hubbard's 'Dianetics' book. I can't remember how much they said it >cost, but they did say the price would be going up because so many >people were buying it that they'd have to print some more. I don't >know much about economics, but I always thought that things were >generally cheaper per unit if you made more of them. But not >according to them. According to the economics of supply and demand, the higher the demand for an item the higher the cost for it. However, you're right in saying these people are "bonkers". - -Dabb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 18:48:01 -0800 From: "David Abbitt" Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:48:31 -0700, Keith the Sole Inhabitant sayeth: > > >The Church of Thomas Dolby and the Latter Day Synths - members known as the >"Alloys". > >May the cube be with you - and your father. Amen. > >-Keith This is why I missed Alloy. Truly clever. May the cube be with you all. - -Dabbitt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 18:52:58 -0800 From: "David Abbitt" Subject: Alloy: Walt Has An Idea On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:41:38 EST, Walt sayeth: >Fess up everyone. Who has what? Let's start a petition to Tom to push all >of >this rare stuff on an authorized release, like the recent OMD B-Side >Collection, and release Live Wireless on a cd, maybe with extra tracks, and >a >DVD as well. Anyone out there feel the same? Hmmm...... Do I feel the same? Absolutely! I would love to be able to purchase Live Wireless on DVD, though I did own it on Laserdisc up until just months ago when my Laserdisc player died an ugly spark-filled death. I have yet to hear Wreck of the Fairchild, and would love to get an MP3 copy for my collection and my listening pleasure. I also have the more rare Live Wireless tracks in MP3 format, including Jungle Line, Samson & Delilah, and Urban Tribal. Samson and Delilah, and Urban Tribal both have the "projection room" audio interruptions embedded in the MP3 audio. - -Dabbitt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:08:27 -0800 From: Kathleen Presser Subject: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V6 #290 Maybe I should change my e-mail address to Kate.Presser. It is somewhat of a coincidence that Thomas's wife and I share the same name. Although, I'm sure the name is all we share in common. I'm no actress, nor am I nor was I ever a model. Was an extra on two movies though that didn't too well at the box office. I'm more of a poet and a musician. It would be interesting to hear from Kathleen Beller about some of posts on Alloy about dreams of Thomas!! Kate;-) New Wave Hippie of the Millenium:) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 20:55:10 -0700 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: Re: Alloy: Robin is NOT a Scientologist Actually, I am reminded of a church "blunder" reported in the "signs and blunders" section the Ship of Fools web site (wonderful reading for any churchgoing types out there): Priest: "Peace be -- oh, dear, there seems to be something wrong with this microphone." Unhearing congregation, obediently reading the text: "And also with you." Keith Stansell wrote: > > The Church of Thomas Dolby and the Latter Day Synths - members known as the > "Alloys". > > May the cube be with you - and your father. Amen. > > -Keith Cheers, Beth ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #291 ***************************