From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #249 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, September 20 2001 Volume 06 : Number 249 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre [Robin Thurlow ] RE:Alloy: no more from me [jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com] Alloy: Eclipsed by their own fame. ["Chris & Beena Cracknell" Subject: Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre I've been listening to the GTME soundtrack tonight, especially to the beautiful "Valley of the Mind's Eye" which is (as I see it) a tribute to devotion to one another in a changing world, no matter what may happen nor how far apart we may be. It got me wondering, what is everyone doing right now? (besides reading/typing email) What projects or plans do you have going? I'm in the middle of making a series of clay sculptures for class, of little ballerinas with enormous rear-ends. It's the musculature.. someone in the studio commented on this fact today, so now it's stuck in my mind. another thing I've been thinking... there may come a time when we lose internet contact with one another. If this should happen, then with Thomas' permission, I wonder if I might be able to set up a central Alloy newsletter which could be sent out free of charge to our members, until access is provided again? This would have news of TMDR and updates on what one another is doing... a compilation of whatever information I receive. If you would be interested, could you please write to me here @ Robin Thurlow 8 Grand Boulevard # 1 East Binghamton NY 13905 or phone @ (607) 766-4453 This occured to me today because of yet another virus sent out by someone, which is messing up people's ISPs. In any case, I'd like to start compiling a list in case we do lose touch for any reason. xxxxx Robin T __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:31:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #248 And I have to say to everyone, thanks for your supportive words both on the List and off. You're truly wonderful. xxxxx Robin T __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:41:40 +0300 From: jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com Subject: RE:Alloy: no more from me Morning all, Robin, that statement and appology was very unnecessary! We love your daily comments. Please don't stop! Regards all! Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:02:55 -0400 From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" Subject: Alloy: Eclipsed by their own fame. I was listening to the band Nena's "99 Luftballons" album yesterday and was thinking "jeeze you know, there are some pretty good songs on this album that I heard SDA about back in the day.". Everyone is familiar with "99 Red Balloons", but I can't ever recall hearing anything else by the band ever played on the radio. If I remember correctly they only released one more album after "99 Luftballons" and it tanked. I haven't heard the second album so I don't know if it just sucked or if the masses didn't like it because it wasn't "99 Red Balloons". There are actually some really cool songs on the first album that arn't "99 Red Balloons". "Let Me Be Your Pirate" is a really soft sweet song and I wish I spoke German so I could understand the lyrics to "Das Lang Der Elefanten" because the song itself rocks. It's got a great beat and the synth elephant trumpeting just sounds so cool, it almost sounds like a Peter Gabriel song. "Leuchturm" is another song that makes me wish I spoke German. I think if the radio stations had played more than just "99 Red Balloons" the band would have been able to make a go of it longer than they did. Or who knows, maybe they threw everything they had into their first album and the second one just out and out sucked. I'll have to keep my eyes open when hitting the vinyl bins at the thrift store incase I manage to find a copy of it. Anyone here got a copy of it? Of course it could just be that north american audiences were turned off by Nena Kerner's unruly crop of pit-hair. Who knows, fame is a fickle mistress. Crackers (Where are they now from hell!!!) CrAB - http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html The Official Bira Bira Webpage - http://birabira.chaosmagic.com Ghastly's Ghastly Comic - http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:50:25 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Eclipsed by their own fame. Someone should run the German version of 99 Luftbaloons though the Babel Fish and see how it compares to the English version of the song. Come to think of it, the English version of the song sound a bit like a Babel Fish translation in places. - -Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: Alloy: Eclipsed by their own fame. > > I was listening to the band Nena's "99 Luftballons" album yesterday and was > thinking "jeeze you know, there are some pretty good songs on this album > that I heard SDA about back in the day.". > > Everyone is familiar with "99 Red Balloons", but I can't ever recall hearing > anything else by the band ever played on the radio. If I remember correctly > they only released one more album after "99 Luftballons" and it tanked. I > haven't heard the second album so I don't know if it just sucked or if the > masses didn't like it because it wasn't "99 Red Balloons". > > There are actually some really cool songs on the first album that arn't "99 > Red Balloons". "Let Me Be Your Pirate" is a really soft sweet song and I > wish I spoke German so I could understand the lyrics to "Das Lang Der > Elefanten" because the song itself rocks. It's got a great beat and the > synth elephant trumpeting just sounds so cool, it almost sounds like a Peter > Gabriel song. "Leuchturm" is another song that makes me wish I spoke German. > > I think if the radio stations had played more than just "99 Red Balloons" > the band would have been able to make a go of it longer than they did. Or > who knows, maybe they threw everything they had into their first album and > the second one just out and out sucked. I'll have to keep my eyes open when > hitting the vinyl bins at the thrift store incase I manage to find a copy of > it. Anyone here got a copy of it? > > Of course it could just be that north american audiences were turned off by > Nena Kerner's unruly crop of pit-hair. > > Who knows, fame is a fickle mistress. > > Crackers > (Where are they now from hell!!!) > > CrAB - http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html > The Official Bira Bira Webpage - http://birabira.chaosmagic.com > Ghastly's Ghastly Comic - http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:05:59 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre What I've been up to.. Well, besides work, I'm currently rebuilding my home computer (the old - wipe out the hard drive, re-install the OS and stuff) to make it a bit more stable, clear out the clutter, and install some new components. So lately I've had to access my email from work until I get the email set up on my home computer. My "get rid of the beige" kitchen repaint project is still continuing. I got everything painted above the counter line, but now need to get those bottom cabinets painted. This project started around Easter. When I get to a stopping point I like to take a break from it for a while. This past weekend I took a break from the news by combining two Canadian imports at once. I saw the Cirque du Soleil 3D IMAX film Journey of Man. Very cool and a nice distraction from the world for a moment. Thanks Canada! I just recently purchased the CD Poses by Rufus Wainwright - I highly recommend it. - -Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Thurlow" > It got me wondering, what is everyone doing right now? > (besides reading/typing email) What projects or plans > do you have going? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:50:27 -0700 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre At 10:27 PM 9/18/2001 -0700, Robin Thurlow wrote: >It got me wondering, what is everyone doing right now? >(besides reading/typing email) What projects or plans >do you have going? i've got a 2 hr dj set coming on friday in an "ambient tent" in the front yard of a church near my house. inside the church they transform it into almost a dance club and everybody celebrates through dancing and music. when you get too tired, you come out to the tent, which is filled with pillows and beanbags, and chill out. i'll be providing musical peace and bliss and relaxation. that's always a nice feeling. - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:29:25 +0100 From: Slarvibarglhee Subject: Re: Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre Robin Thurlow wrote: > It got me wondering, what is everyone doing right now? > (besides reading/typing email) What projects or plans > do you have going? > Ecky thump! (Old Lancastrian Saying) I've got loads of stuff on the go. At work we're in the middle of upgrading everyone from W95 to W2000, replacing almost all the PC stock, replacing our servers, upgrading Netware, and preparing to move to our new IT suite, 10 floors below. Then we'll have to move all the PCs (about 350 in all) to their new location when all the other refurbishment is finished and all our staff relocate to their new offices. At home I've just finished undercoating all the internal doors, which had been dipped and stripped. Now they just need the gloss and hopefully my decorating jobs for this year will be done ...... uh oh, forgot Lyn wants me to give the 'office' (the smallest bedroom which is where the computer is housed) a quick once over with the paint pads to brighten it up, so I've NEARLY finished all my decorating for this year. My home PC hard disk is down to less than 100mb free space, and it's a bit old now, so I've been keeping an eye open for a spare at work that won't be of a high enough spec to upgrade to W2K, but worth salvaging for home use. I've found a suitable candidate, bunged in all the memory it will take and done a test copy of all my data and non-Windows program files, so I just need to install all my own software and do a final data copy, then transfer my CD ROM and sound card (up to now we didn't issue PCs with CDs to the staff. It encourages them to load things they shouldn't). The problem is time. With the transfer of staff to W2K and still having to support those on W95, plus swap up to 12 PCs each day with only one member of staff to actually do the donkey work, my days are full to overflowing, and we've also been working Saturdays to catch up with all the stuff we don't have time to do during the week. In my spare time I'll be digging the foundations for the garden shed I have ordered, assuming I'm not fast asleep on Sundays, and that the weather is good enough for outside work. And when the shed arrives, I'll have a fun time assembling it. Apart from all that it's been a very quiet time for me really. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:53:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre - --- Keith Stansell wrote: > I just recently purchased the CD Poses by Rufus > Wainwright - I highly > recommend it. Speaking of CDs... there's one I must get through the Projekt site (http://www.projekt.com/) In a sampler CD they sent me with another order, I've finally gotten to hear a band called Mors Syphilitica, which my dear friend Kathryn has been highly recommending to me for ages. Today (payday!) I'm ordering it finally. The sample on the free CD has me racing for the order form. Their music is big and theatrical - very good percussion - but also strangely medieval sounding. The vocalist has similar strengths to Siouxsie. Very nice! Incidentally, while listening to the radio today at the University, the DJ played a string of pieces all of which made me think of Thomas! He's either worked with, performed in front of, or had the same doctor as, these three legendary musicians... Stevie Wonder, James Brown (and my brain cells are flaking off very badly right now, so I hope I'm remembering his name correctly & not transposing one name for another... the Sex Machine guy :) and Marvin Gaye. While casting my strangely muscular dancers & getting covered head to toe in plaster for seven hours straight, it was nice to be thinking of Thomas! xxxxx Robin T __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Robin Thurlow wrote: > Speaking of CDs... there's one I must get through the > Projekt site (http://www.projekt.com/) In a sampler > CD they sent me with another order, I've finally > gotten to hear a band called Mors Syphilitica, which > my dear friend Kathryn has been highly recommending to > me for ages. Today (payday!) I'm ordering it finally. > The sample on the free CD has me racing for the order > form. Their music is big and theatrical - very good > percussion - but also strangely medieval sounding. > The vocalist has similar strengths to Siouxsie. Very > nice! I recently bought a Projekt CD by Steve Roach, who I've listened to for nearly two decades now. My favorite album of his has been re-released and remastered by Projekt, "Structures From Silence". Very cool and spacey and ambient (in the original Brian Eno sense of the term "ambient.") Speaking of Eno, I happen to have one of his ambient albums on now. This reminds me that he had done some computer music a few years ago called "generative music" which was music created by a computer that was never the same twice--sort of like the multiple tape-loops of different lengths that he used to employ. It occurs to me that maybe Eno could achieve the same effect with Beatnik and little skillful programming. We really need to get Thomas and Brian in the same room together sometime. BC - -- "Perhaps this final act was meant to clinch a lifetime's argument That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could For all those born beneath an angry star Lest we forget how fragile we are." --Sting ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:29:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Que le monde a change depuis ma derniere lettre - --- Brian Clayton wrote: > I recently bought a Projekt CD by Steve Roach, who > I've listened to for > nearly two decades now. My favorite album of his > has been re-released and > remastered by Projekt, "Structures From Silence". > Very cool and spacey > and ambient (in the original Brian Eno sense of the > term "ambient.") Projekt features a lot of this type of music. A really good independent label, and the people who run it are very helpful. > We really need to get Thomas and Brian in the same > room together sometime. Only if Brian has stopped drinking urine!! (BTW I'm not sure that this was ever true... I'd only heard it once through someone associated with Laurie Anderson, when I was w/the violin shop... Gross though!) xxxxx Robin T __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #249 ***************************