From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #234 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, September 5 2001 Volume 06 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: CMOS thanks ["Tim Hudson" ] Re: Alloy: top 80 of the 80s ["Chris & Beena Cracknell" ] Re: Alloy: Hitch Hikers on Wed / Stick Bass / The Human drum machine ["Tim Hu] ["Robin Thurlow" Subject: Alloy: CMOS thanks Hi Sincere thanks to Sean Carolan, Kieth Stansell, and Brian Clayton for their excellent advise re my dead CMOS battery. Much appreciated. I've found a number of web sites which can get me a replacement battery and as far as I can recall there is no label as such on the hard drive for the settings but I'll have to look again. I'll let you know how I get on. If I succeed in recovering access to my hard drive I will make a donation to whatever Alloy are supporting next. Cheers Tim. - -- Tim Hudson tim_hudson@zdnetonebox.com - email ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:36:34 -0400 From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" Subject: Re: Alloy: top 80 of the 80s - ----- Original Message ----- > and the Talking Heads video where that strange > dance is done over and over again. "Once in a Lifetime"? > David Byrne revealed that he'd seen > those dances done by a lot of teenagers in a park in Tokyo... they were just > dancing in this really weird way, that he'd never seen before and didn't > understand what it meant. Really fascinating.. I'd never known that. How ironic that "I Think I'm Turning Japanese" just came on winamp as I opened this e-mail. Crackers (Syncronicity from hell!!!!!!!) CrAB - http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html The Official Bira Bira Webpage - http://birabira.chaosmagic.com Ghastly's Ghastly Comic - http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:47:18 -0400 From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" Subject: Alloy: For those pondering Phantom Power. I feel like such an idiot because the solution was so simple that I really should have seen it. All that needs to be done is to block the DC power coming from the mixer while letting the AC audio signal get through to the mixer. Of course we all know two very easy ways to block DC and allow AC to pass unhindered... either a transformer, or capacitors in series. Doh! A simple DI box with a transformer will do the trick, something I think I already have around here somewhere. If not I can either build a DI with a tranformer which would have the advantage of a little gain boost for the signal, or I can build a box with two 100uf capacitors in series on lines 2 and 3 of the XLR. I feel so silly now. Crackers (It's been one of those months from hell!!!!!!) CrAB - http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html The Official Bira Bira Webpage - http://birabira.chaosmagic.com Ghastly's Ghastly Comic - http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 21:54:04 -0400 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: Re: Alloy: top 80 of the 80s - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" > > and the Talking Heads video where that strange > > dance is done over and over again. > > "Once in a Lifetime"? Yes, that's it! I couldn't think of the lyrics when I was writing this out the other day. All I could think was "Strange as it ever was... strange as it ever was.... " :) xxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:17:22 -0400 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: Re: Alloy: Hitch Hikers on Wed / Stick Bass / The Human drum machine ["Tim Hu] Tim wrote: > This begs the question was it the sexiest/daftest instrument ever made > ? My poor unfinished gamba might qualify, so maybe I'll nominate it. It is sexy - very curvy and smooth to the touch! - and it could be considered daft because I haven't finished its neck and scroll carving. It lives in a foot locker wrapped in a lot of old cotton t-shirts, waiting to be made whole. > > THE HUMAN DRUM MACHINE > I remember seeing John Ottway stuff his clothes full of drum triggers > and beat himself up on stage to do the drum solo in his song 'body talk'. > I saw him on TV once! There are a few people who have performed in these. Laurie Anderson had one at one time, I know, but I don't thing she uses it anymore. At least not the whole suit. xxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:16:47 -0400 From: Robb & Tara Subject: Alloy: Re: Hitchhikers/stick/aged PCs/etc. > this ! [B] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 11:16:24 +0000 > From: "Tim Hudson" > Subject: Alloy: Hitch Hikers on Wed / Stick Bass / The Human drum machine > > Hi everybody, > > HITCH HIKERS BROADCAST THIS WEDNESDAY ON BBC RADIO 4 > > So I do hope that those who have never heard the original radio series > might be able to tune in and enjoy the extraordinary adventure I've heard all of these, and got a few online in mp3 format. Pity I couldn't find the rest, nor figure out how to snag a webcast and record to my hard drive. But I agree, nifty stuff, indeed. > CHAPMAN STICK BASS..... > I cant believe that one of the Alloy list has a chapman stick bass guitar > !! - Thats just so amazing ! I assume you are referring to moi... I must admit; at this point, i am more of a Chapman Stick 'owner.' Haven't come quite up to scratch on it. Steep learning curve. Actually, steep unlearning curve, as you have to cease the strumming and picking you've learned for years and start tapping. I rather proclaim to be an electic bass/synthesizer player (and composer) instead. > I always remember Tony Levin 'wrestling' with his at Guildford Civic > hall with King Crimson during their Discipline Tour. What amazing sounds. > I'd love some samples! > > I seem to recall it had a strange body strap type of arrangement which > necessitated strapping it to the front of your chest and opened thigh! > > Now thats what I call rock and roll. I highly recommended purchasing the "World Diary" CD from Tony Levin's website, www.papabear.com. This stuff is cool; it's a musical road diary of Tony and other artists that played with Peter Gabriel, mainly during the So Tour. Recorded in hotel rooms and the such, but since he hauled around an Alesis ADAT, it sounds like studio work. Also, for Robin, there are a coupla beautiful Cello pieces in there as well (it's all instumentals). > I dont recall any women ever playing the stick bass but maybe there were? Actually, yes, but nonesomuch as in the popular eye as yet. I saw the wallful of Stick artists, including many women, not to mention a slew of oddball instrumentation on these CDs such as Harp & Stick, a group of 3 Stick players, just Stick 'n' Drums, etc., when I visited Emmett Chapman's house (the inventor of the Chapman Stick, duh.... ). Quiet, but nice guy. His wife Yuta chatted with us for 2+ hours. Very neato. Also worthy of mention is that the band that backs Cirque de Soleil, the bass player, uses primarily the Stick (it stands out on quite a few tunes). Mainly the Mystire CD (live, even more so). > THE HUMAN DRUM MACHINE > I remember seeing John Ottway stuff his clothes full of drum triggers > and beat himself up on stage to do the drum solo in his song 'body talk'. I wonder if that was the guy wandering around the 1993 (? i think) WOMAD (peter gabriel) concert in Saratoga Springs, NY. He was wearing all sorts of body contacts triggering a MIDI thang (a Roland SoundCanvas, I believe). Never caught his name. And as for the PCs becoming malfunctionary due to the internal battery - get a Mac! Even the batteries last longer.... But then again, this Mac is probably the number 1 or 2 reason for my not making as much music as I should be, spending all this time online typing.... I'm sure Thomas would agree, yup. On a total sidenote, I reread a story last nite from a scifi short story compilation last nite called "The Screwfly Solution", by (as I run to get the authior's name and come back) Raccoona Sheldon. It always spooks me. It's a story 'bout how all the men in the world are committing 'femicide', most in the name of God (or whatever religion is in the majority in their region). Exteremly well written and highly recomended. The point is, is that there was a letter written from one scientist to another who were trying to figure out what was going on, with the religion in mind, and I rather thought it to be quite strong and deep: "Religion is never the cause, but only the symptom." [ of the more serious problem ] How true. ~robb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:21:22 -0400 From: Robb & Tara Subject: Alloy: bad joke. and then another, to boot The first one... ============ A new employee is hired at the Tickle Me Elmo factory, to report to work promptly at 8:00 AM. The next day at 8:45 AM, there's a knock at the personnel manager's door. The assembly line foreman comes in and starts ranting about this new employee. He says she's incredibly slow, and the whole line is backing up. The foreman takes the personnel manager down to the factory floor to show him the problem. Sure enough, Elmos are backed up all over the place. At the end of the line is the new employee. She has a roll of the material used for the Elmos and a big bag of marbles. They both watch as she cuts a little piece of fabric, wraps it around two marbles, and starts sewing the little package between Elmo's legs. The personnel manager starts laughing hysterically. After several minutes, he pulls himself together, walks over to the woman and says, "I'm sorry, I guess you misunderstood me yesterday. Your job is to give Elmo two test tickles. The last. ========== A priest, a rabbi and a monk walk into a bar and sit down on the stools in front of the barkeep, at which point the barkeep says, "What is this, some kind of joke?" ++++++++ My mom sends this stuff to me from her work to my home address. Come, groan with me, all together now. ~robb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:30:10 -0400 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Hitchhikers/stick/aged PCs/etc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robb & Tara" > I must admit; at this point, i am more of a > Chapman Stick 'owner.' Haven't come > quite up to scratch on it. Steep learning curve. > Actually, steep unlearning curve, > as you have to cease the strumming and > picking you've learned for years and start > tapping. I rather proclaim to be an electic > bass/synthesizer player (and composer) > instead. I miss playing music.. ~sigh~ I may have to put off drum lessons, because of the time factor involved with fitting practice in. I've just started back in on completing my BFA & I will have to focus on it. > I highly recommended purchasing the "World > Diary" CD from Tony Levin's website, > www.papabear.com. > This stuff is cool; it's a musical road diary of > Tony and other artists that > played with Peter Gabriel, mainly during the > So Tour. Recorded in hotel rooms and > the such, but since he hauled around an Alesis > ADAT, it sounds like studio work. > Also, for Robin, there are a coupla beautiful > Cello pieces in there as well (it's > all instumentals). This sounds really good...I love this sort of thing. I may have to pick this up too. Thanks for recommending it! xxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #234 ***************************