From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #227 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, August 28 2001 Volume 06 : Number 227 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: xlr [Tom Trudell ] Re: Alloy: Phantom of the Mixer. [Paul Baily ] Alloy: a hasty P.S. [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: xlr [Jon Drukman ] Alloy: article about recording artists' rights [Robin Thurlow ] Alloy: Re: Phantom of the Mixer. [Robb & Tara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 03:18:31 -0700 From: Tom Trudell Subject: Alloy: xlr I think the problem is your friend's guitar with the xlr outputs. I've never heard of or seen such a beast, and I'm trying to imagine why one would be rigged thus. To defeat the phantom power, you'd likely have to open the mixer case up (if you can) and experiment, which is not for the faint of heart, either. I know of no box that removes phantom power from a signal, unless you buy another unphantompowered mixer and send a 1/4 signal from that (degradation city) I'm just a home studio type weekend warrior, perhaps others will know mucho mas. Seriously, why the xlr from the guitar? I'm curious. - -Tom > > From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" > Subject: Alloy: Phantom of the Mixer. > > I've ordered my nifty new mixer (Behrigner MX1804X) but I've got a wee > problem. The phantom power is global. My friend has a guitar with an XLR > output on it and he's learned the hard way once that it will fry if he plugs > it into an XLR with phantom power. > > Anyone of the tech-heads here know of a box I can build to defeat phantom > power? I should be able to come up with something to plug the guitar into > then plug the box into the mixer and still be able to have the phantom > power. > > I've been scouring the internet for schematics but can't find anything. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:02:55 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Phantom of the Mixer. > I've ordered my nifty new mixer (Behrigner MX1804X) but I've got a wee > problem. The phantom power is global. My friend has a guitar with an XLR > output on it and he's learned the hard way once that it will fry if he > plugs > it into an XLR with phantom power. 'scuse my ignorance my good fellow, but I'm dying to ask, is there a way to explain what phantom power is to those of us who musically still drag our knuckles on the ground when we walk? I mean the first thing I think of when presented with the term phantom power is this guy I know who likes to fart in crowded lifts... P. This message powered by Woke Up Today off Swear It's True/The Mockers (NZ band on vinyl circa 1984, yesterday transcribed to minidisc for posterity) "Woke up today, the sun was shining. Pulled back the blinds, the world was screaming at me." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:46:13 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: a hasty P.S. Just caught up on the last week's Alloy traffic. First up, Slarv, /so/ relieved to hear that you, Lyn, Sue & Gordon were relatively unscathed following your ordeal! Beth, Eric looks beautiful (as we all knew he would!) and it's always good to see more photos of you, Mark, Milena. best, Paul. This message powered by, wait for it, Don't Look Down off Go West/Go West (vinyl again transcribed to minidisc last night - never guess I was doing a media conversion wudya?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:18:03 -0700 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: xlr > > I've ordered my nifty new mixer (Behrigner MX1804X) but I've got a wee > > problem. The phantom power is global. and there's no defeat switch? that's really unusual... you could get an xlr -> 1/4" conversion plug. i think that's your best bet. - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:30:40 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: article about recording artists' rights I've just come across an article in the London Times about the 'big five' record companies, that I thought a lot of us here would find interesting! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,5-2001295618,00.html xxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:10:35 -0400 From: "Chris & Beena Cracknell" Subject: Re: Alloy: xlr - ----- Original Message ----- > > > I've ordered my nifty new mixer (Behrigner MX1804X) but I've got a wee > > > problem. The phantom power is global. > > and there's no defeat switch? that's really unusual... Not per individual channel. It's either phantom power on them all or on none at all. I know I can hack the mixer itself to make it possible to disable the phantom power on one or more of the channels but that will void the warentee. Crackers (Soldering iron at the ready from hell!!) CrAB - http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html The Official Bira Bira Webpage - http://birabira.chaosmagic.com Ghastly's Ghastly Comic - http://ghastly.keenspace.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:45:40 -0400 From: Robb & Tara Subject: Alloy: Re: Phantom of the Mixer. I think you can use a simple direct box to cancel this problem. But I may be wrong. Another route is to use an XLR to 1/4", then plug THAT into a direct box at the 1/4" input. Sorta like double shielding. (Think two condoms at once.... sorry) The same situation happened to me when I sat in with a friend's band at a gig. I had never seen a direct box before - plugged in my Roland Alpha Juno, and whheeeeee! The memory got scrambled. Nothing happenned to my Kawai K-1 II, though. Hope this helps some. ~robb > > > I've ordered my nifty new mixer (Behrigner MX1804X) but I've got a wee > problem. The phantom power is global. My friend has a guitar with an XLR > output on it and he's learned the hard way once that it will fry if he plugs > it into an XLR with phantom power. > > Anyone of the tech-heads here know of a box I can build to defeat phantom > power? I should be able to come up with something to plug the guitar into > then plug the box into the mixer and still be able to have the phantom > power. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #227 ***************************