From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #207 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, August 8 2001 Volume 06 : Number 207 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: cheese / geology / coastal or postal ? / MTV / Graffitti ["Tim Hu] Alloy: Muse and deliberations [jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com] Re: Alloy: Muse and deliberations [Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: cheese / geology / coastal or postal ? / MTV / Graffitti Hi, CHEESE Yes there is a Cheddar Gorge in England ! GEOLOGY No reply from our mad geologist over Hutton's contribution to Geology then ? COASTAL OR POSTAL ? Whats the difference between going 'Coastal' and going 'postal' ? I supose the most maddest baddest and dangerous to know would be a postie whos gone 'postal' with an attitude thats 'coastal' ? MTV Theres a lot of rap stuff which is 'coastal' - East coast V west coast etc.... Yeah Man we are the toughest and were gonna bash your face etc...... The trouble is with these records is that after a promising begining they degenerate into something where everybody is dancing on a beach in a bikini........making movements like they are climbing an invisible rope or dodging bullets.......bobbing up and down and doing this compulsory sort of circular hip gyration that seem obligatory in modern videos.... extraordinary. GRAFFITI Still this sorry state cant go on forever ......the writings on the wall. [even if you cant read any of it] Once whilst rattling in to Waterloo station having encountered wall to wall graffiti all the way in to central London I saw sandwiched between the FLEX's and the XERO's and CATCH's and REKD's an numerous other completely uniteligable Graffitti Tags the single name rather too legibly - 'Paddy'. It was either a stroke of radical genious an incredibly apposite reposte to the genre per se or some bloke who just didn't get it. Whatever it was it made me laugh! And I'm all for that. Dont get me wrong - I'm not anti rap at all - I was blown away by the first few public enemy records I bought - and I used to send cassette recordings of Tim Westwood on the Capital Rap show to Imka a freind in Berlin back in 91 before Westwood switched to radio 1. Its just the graffitti I dont much care for - I dont mind the style I just object to the notion that people think they have the right to write it all over my parents garden wall. if it said 'Fack off' or something It wouldn't be so bad but it doesn't. It doesn't say anything. It says in fact 'Fack all'. It's vapid and invasive. and I wish I knew why. Tim was here. ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:19:10 +0300 From: jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com Subject: Alloy: Muse and deliberations Hi all, 'up to me eyeballs in it at the moment but it's time for a mug of tea... > The wreck of the Camenbert.... > The beauty of a brie..... > > Cheese pyjamas > Cheese pyjamas > She was wearing Cheese pyjamas... I've have been scanning Alloy from time to time and of course I couldn't let this pass without comment! Tim, you are certifiably mad! Keep it up! Slarv wrote: > It started simply enough... A few weeks ago when we were on vacation at the cottage my wife and I decided that as we were expecting visitors soon we should paint the inside of the little cottage where we usually place our guests. Well, this little wooden building is only really one room and about 15 square meters so I reluctantly agreed - knowing full well that I would end up doing it as my wife would be kept busy stopping our son from drinking the paint. I began, I painted, I finished and it looked great; crisp, white, lovely. Then she said, "we should really do something about the floor you know..." At that point I knew I was in deep trouble. The floor was simple painted floorboards and I was pretty sure that her intention was not a repaint. Suffice to say I had to drive 90 miles round-trip to the nearest town where I was instructed to buy birch parquet! If any of you have the slightest inkling of what is involved laying parquet then I'm sure that I have your sympathies. It looks wonderful now but hell! what a job! what a learning curve! Two days of my precious summer vacation were spent grafting inside with myriad mossies to 'keep me company' as I have to keep the door open because of the paint. If only that was then end... after that was done the nightstand looked so shabby and needed repainting... I got out of that one by suggesting that we buy two matching ones which I then had to collect and assemble. Then it was curtain rails... It's finished now and so am I! The next time I hear "don't you think XXXX could do with painting", I'm jumping in the boat and driving until the gas runs out! > Is there really a gorge in Cheddar? > I have a feeling our geocheese tour of the UK is going to > shape up nicely. Oh yes! It's a really nice area too. I'm sure if you do a search on the net for British cheeses you'll come up with something. ...the beauty of a brie..........is you don't ever let it go. hehehe Back to business. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:27:37 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Muse and deliberations jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: > If any of you have the slightest inkling of what is involved laying parquet > then I'm sure that I have your sympathies. If it's anything like planing a bird's-eye maple gamba back to an even 5mm thickness and then canting it.... I still get the shakes when I think I actually spent three months doing this. Laying a parquet floor might seem like a walk through a springtime meadow after pulling this horrific stunt! Next time I'm using normal flamed maple. > The next time I hear "don't you think XXXX could do with painting", I'm > jumping in the boat and driving until the gas runs out! LOL! You and Bill should tell your wives they're very lucky. Around our house, the person who makes the suggestions is the person who does all the work. My husband has no sympathy for me being female and anyway, he knows I'm handy with that type of work. I think this might be bordering on the assless butler uniform fetish thing but I'm not sure. Either way... our house decoration remains extremely basic as a result :) xxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:57:41 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #204 Barbara, thanks for the information... and best of luck on your trip! Themed travelling is the way to go. I'd love to see photos of your adventures.. xxxx Robin T Barbara Cohen wrote: > Robin, can't speak for the cheese, but if you hike Mt. Snowdon in Wales, > you're in the Cambrian Mountains, for which the Cambrian (and > pre-Cambrian) Era was named. Also, in Holyrood Park outside Edinburgh, > that volcanic neck that you can hike up, up there is the quarry where > Charles Lyell figured out the principle of superposition -- that is, > younger rocks lie on top of older rocks. It seems obvious now, but it was > a big breakthrough in geology at the time. My goal for next time I'm in > England (in 3 weeks actually) is to go to Jersey, Hampshire, and > York. Having already been to New Jersey, New Hampshire, and New York of > course. I've been to both Mexico and New Mexico already :) And, when we > go to Italy in September we'll try to mae a quick trip to Mt. Etna...! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 22:55:45 +0100 From: Slarvibarglhee Subject: Re: Alloy: plate tecktonic-crypto-geo-cheese-morphology bluesthang Robin Thurlow wrote: > > Is there really a gorge in Cheddar? > I have a feeling our geocheese tour of the UK is going to shape up nicely. > Oh yes, been there, had the geological talk, bought the cheese and had to suffer with it on a very hot bus for several hours. I went there while at school camp many yonks ago. Quite scenic, and IIRC we went on a cave trip there as well. I don't remember all that much about it now ...... except for the cheese. Still, it's very popular with the tourists. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:38:21 -0400 From: "Robin Thurlow" Subject: Re: Alloy: (OT) plate tecktonic-crypto-geo-cheese-morphology bluesthang It seems the oldest human remains to be found in Britain was "Cheddar Man" - really! http://www.cheddarcaves.co.uk/ The geological features look so beautiful there... but then, there are so many amazing sites in Britain. Is there any other place its size on earth where so much has happened? It's hard to believe there was so much volcanic activity in the UK at one time. And the Giant's Causeway type of formation has got to be unique to Antrim... http://earth.leeds.ac.uk/ygs/photos/giants_causeway.htm If there's no cheese in Antrim, I shall have to make an exception in this case and do without it.. xxx ~R - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Slarvibarglhee" > I don't remember all that much about it now > ...... except for the cheese. Still, it's very popular with the tourists. > > Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:00:30 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Alloy: OT: Survival Under Atomic Attack & Told By a Tooth http://www.archive.org/movies/ I just recently came across the above link recently which is a HUGE library of old government and corporate films. I thought it related well to our recent Cold-War conversations since you can find heartwarming films like: Survival Under Atomic Attack 1951 Producer: U.S. Office of Civil Defense Sponsor: U.S. Office of Civil Defense "Explains" the dangers of the atomic bomb, the effects of radiation and how to protect oneself if caught in the open or in the home. Descriptors: Atomic/nuclear: Civil defense; Cold War Run time: 8:45 Download: 19374.avi (25.3 MB) 19374.mpg (192.3 MB) http://ftp.archive.org/movies/divx/19374.avi Some of the files are REALLY BIG so you'll need a fast connection to download them. Many are now in Divx format though and not quite as big. There are some lighter subjects also such as: Told By a Tooth 1939 Producer: National Motion Pictures Company Sponsor: N/A An animated tooth lectures children about a balanced dental hygiene program. Descriptors: Health: Dentistry; Animation Run time: 10:03 Download: 19196.avi (24.2 MB) 19196.mpg (289.4 MB) http://ftp.archive.org/movies/divx/19196.avi ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #207 ***************************