From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #180 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, July 13 2001 Volume 06 : Number 180 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: And what about cubes? ["Andy Venables" ] Re: Alloy: And what about cubes? ["p.latham2" ] Alloy: Records currently playing ["p.latham2" ] Re: Alloy: Records currently playing [Jon Drukman ] Alloy: Rare tracks ["Mary A. Brown" ] Alloy: Hello there! [Tom Trudell ] Re: Alloy: Hello there! and others.... [Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: And what about cubes? Howdo folks, Congratulations where applicable, as always :o) I've just recently found a series of fascinating stuff about the early days on the official website. I don't know how I missed that little lot before but it's all very interesting. I urge anyone who hasn't looked at the site for a couple of years to go take a peek! Turning up at Michael Jackson's place like a drowned rat, with glandular fever, LOL! I haven't lived. I'm almost hurt by "looked back at England, at its disgruntled tea-swilling populace, its artistic and musical snobbery and total lack of tolerance, at the dingy pigeon-shit buildings that its Kings and Queens float past in their gold and crystal carriages, I don't miss the place a whole lot." ...but I guess I can imagine feeling that from a USA perspective, hehe. I'm a bit puzzled by New Toy "which went Top 10 in the UK" when I'd just been flicking through the old Guinness book of (*)Hit Singles that very evening and if I read/remember rightly it said New Toy only got to 53 in the charts? Also, I just noticed on Lazlo's discography doo-dah that the 12" of Low Noise's Jungle Line seems to have another track called Angeline. Does anyone have this, what's it like? Friday is a holiday for us, Her Majestic Gold-Carriage-ness Herself is coming over to check up on the disgruntled tea-swilling populace - really! Cubes? They ARE the beat, when they're in time. Hmmm! I've read about "the Dolby's Cube project" but what did it amount to apart from Get Out of My Mix, May the Cube be With You three years before Aliens Ate My Buick, and duck based frolics with Cherry Bomb? Questions, as ever... Cheers folks, +AndyJ+ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:12:58 +0100 From: "p.latham2" Subject: Re: Alloy: And what about cubes? In answer to Andy's question re New Toy - I cant answer it -- I also believe it only reached 53 in the UK charts - can only wonder if its referring to the independent charts ???? In regards Jungle Line - ive two copies of the 12" and neither has a track called Angeline - presume a typing error -- However , if not it means another rareity to track down -- hurrah / or do I mean oh know . Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Venables To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: Alloy: And what about cubes? > > Howdo folks, > Congratulations where applicable, as always :o) > > I've just recently found a series of fascinating > stuff about the early days on the official website. > I don't know how I missed that little lot before > but it's all very interesting. I urge anyone who > hasn't looked at the site for a couple of years to go > take a peek! Turning up at Michael Jackson's place > like a drowned rat, with glandular fever, LOL! > I haven't lived. > > I'm almost hurt by "looked back at England, at its > disgruntled tea-swilling populace, its artistic and > musical snobbery and total lack of tolerance, at the > dingy pigeon-shit buildings that its Kings and Queens > float past in their gold and crystal carriages, I > don't miss the place a whole lot." > ...but I guess I can imagine feeling that from a USA > perspective, hehe. > > I'm a bit puzzled by New Toy "which went Top 10 in > the UK" when I'd just been flicking through the old > Guinness book of (*)Hit Singles that very evening > and if I read/remember rightly it said New Toy only > got to 53 in the charts? > > Also, I just noticed on Lazlo's discography doo-dah > that the 12" of Low Noise's Jungle Line seems to have > another track called Angeline. Does anyone have this, > what's it like? > > Friday is a holiday for us, Her Majestic Gold-Carriage-ness > Herself is coming over to check up on the disgruntled > tea-swilling populace - really! > > Cubes? They ARE the beat, when they're in time. Hmmm! > I've read about "the Dolby's Cube project" but what > did it amount to apart from Get Out of My Mix, May the > Cube be With You three years before Aliens Ate My > Buick, and duck based frolics with Cherry Bomb? > > Questions, as ever... > Cheers folks, > +AndyJ+ > -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:26:10 +0100 From: "p.latham2" Subject: Alloy: Records currently playing Recently someone wrote in asking about what people were presently playing -- I cant remember who - so apologies - cue for a song though 'my brain is like a sieve , sometimes its easier to forget'. Well my current playlist , would bemuse many people :- the last 10 groups/ artists ive been playing are :- Thomas Dolby/Bruce Woolley - my compilation tape Prefab Sprout - Steve Mcqueen lp - under another title in US i believe. Half Man Half Biscuit - Trouble over Bridgewater LP The Fall - The Unutterable lp Soft Cell - Non Stop erotic Caberet lp A festival of Folk - 2 cd compilation Trevor Herion - Beauty life lp The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash lp A Punk complilation cd Joni Mitchell - Clouds lp Now i feel that covers a wide spread or styles of music - from Joni Mitchell to the Anti Nowhere League - still they say variety is the Spice of Life -- ( as long as that doesnt include the Spice Girls - yuck) Paul 'You can chop up a cube , & make a pyramid ' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:05:21 -0700 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: Records currently playing >Recently someone wrote in asking about what people were presently playing -- I >cant remember who - so apologies - cue for a song though 'my brain is like a >sieve , sometimes its easier to forget'. in no particular order... songs: dmx krew - good time girl console - 14 zero zero stacey q - video girl stewart/gaskin - leipzig meat beat manifesto - martenot waves robert miles - paths (future sound of london cosmic jukebox remix) various stuff me and my friends have been writing albums: ulver - perdition city ruby - short staffed at the gene pool - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:13:20 -0400 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: Rare tracks Andy wrote: > I'm almost hurt by "looked back at England, at its > disgruntled tea-swilling populace, its artistic and > musical snobbery and total lack of tolerance, at the > dingy pigeon-shit buildings that its Kings and Queens > float past in their gold and crystal carriages, I > don't miss the place a whole lot." > ...but I guess I can imagine feeling that from a USA > perspective, hehe. On the other hand, TMDR has, in the past, had some really cruel things to say about California (are "Screen Kiss" and his comments about it scathing or what?) and yet he's chosen to live here for years! Of course I have no right to throw stones since my friends all urged me to move to CA and work in biotech once I got my PhD and I kept saying, "No way. Can you imagine this solid Midwestern girl being happy in California?" Okay, so I was wrong...But I do love England and several people who live there (Hi Lem!). Not that it's much of a consolation, Andy. ;-) My copy of Low Noise doesn't have the extra track either. In reference to Jon's magnificent interview, I'm really not surprised that TMDR doesn't have a slew of songs he hasn't released. I mean, where are those non-LP single b-sides? "Therapy/Growth" and "Ravivar Fiore" are the only ones that come to mind, strictly speaking, i.e. the ones listed under just Thomas Dolby. The only other unavailable song I can think of is one called "Marseilles" which he performed on the Flat Earth tour. Whatever happened to that? And I also wonder about the music from the Discovery Channel's series on dreams which I just watched again a couple of days ago. Most of it shows up in some form on "The Gate" (which I suspect came first) but not all of it. One last thing - I've been meaning to ask you, Robin, if you noticed that the sound effects editor for "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" was Blake Leyh, one of the Headspace/Beatnik composers? Just another reason why it really moved you! Europa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:59:28 -0700 From: Tom Trudell Subject: Alloy: Hello there! Hey list, Introductions from Tom Trudell, living in the Pacific Northwest USA, fan of the music of Thomas Dolby for many years now, speaking of myself in the third person. I am a high school teacher, a DJ at our local public radio station, and a closet home studio recording musician. As a DJ I do a jazz/funk show called the Grooveyard. If you are in or around Astoria, Oregon, its Friday night 10-12 on 91.9 KMUN. Very local, very public radio station - kind of like that outfit on the TV show "Northern Exposure." Great to know of the list and I look forward to learning more about Mr. Dolby's stuff. Back in the Napster era, I pilfered things like "Key to her Ferrari" and a few other what I thought to be obscure tracks. As DJ, I wonder where they came from . . . Anyway, I look forward to the future on the Alloy list, and I wonder how many of you also appreciate another fine 80's group - Level 42? take care, - -Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:08:54 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Hello there! and others.... Welcome, Tom! Tom Trudell wrote: > I am a high school teacher, a DJ at our local public radio station, and a closet > home studio recording musician. As a DJ I do a jazz/funk show called the > Grooveyard. If you are in or around Astoria, Oregon, its Friday night 10-12 on > 91.9 KMUN. Very local, very public radio station - kind of like that outfit on > the TV show "Northern Exposure." Does your station have an internet site? :) > Great to know of the list and I look forward to learning more about Mr. Dolby's > stuff. Back in the Napster era, I pilfered things like "Key to her Ferrari" and a > few other what I thought to be obscure tracks. As DJ, I wonder where they came > from . . . What are the tracks? There are many people here who know quite a bit of history. Also I want to know what material of Thomas' was given over to Napster when it was in full swing. I never visited that site but there has been a lot of discussion about Napster here, with some people approving, some disapproving. Personally from what I've heard, it is (was??) a good forum for artists who wanted to be featured there, but for those who didn't but were anyway, it really trampled over their rights. Tom, I'm glad you're joining us. Do you feel like telling the story of how you became a Dolby fan? what was the first song of his you heard, and what did you think of it? (I love hearing this sort of personal history :) Andy wrote: > I'm almost hurt by "looked back at England, at its > disgruntled tea-swilling populace, its artistic and > musical snobbery and total lack of tolerance, at the > dingy pigeon-shit buildings that its Kings and Queens > float past in their gold and crystal carriages, I > don't miss the place a whole lot." > ...but I guess I can imagine feeling that from a USA > perspective, hehe. Actually i think England has changed quite a bit in the last ten years. When I visited the UK a few times years ago with my friend Holly, I was really very surprised to find England was so racist and sexist. We kept trying to talk to people we met to get to know some of them, but just about every man we encountered in England ended up asking my friend and I if we were a lesbian couple. It was very bizarre, especially since we were attempting to meet some nice men! Except for a punk couple we met in Liverpool who let me try their Blue Curacao (mmmmm :) , I got a definite sense of the disgruntled attitude that Thomas speaks of. It confused me incredibly because I'd been so looking forward to visiting for practically all my life... so many of my all-time favorite artists are from the UK. I was very pleasantly surprised at how much things have changed since then in beautiful England during my recent visit with Dave. Socially there seemed to be a much more welcoming atmosphere. It feels like England has opened up a lot in general about things such as race/nationality and it seems like the nation is a very strong, confident player on the modern world stage these days. I wonder what has changed fundamentally? is there a new outlook on finances, or new policies in governments to address xenophobia-related problems? Mary wrote: > One last thing - I've been meaning to ask you, Robin, if you noticed that > the sound effects editor for "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" was Blake > Leyh, one of the Headspace/Beatnik composers? I didn't notice, though i'm sure he did a kickass job :) xxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:47:39 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Records currently playing Lets see, lately and have been listening mostly to a mix of songs on my Rio MP3 player on my way to work. Mostly 80's alternative chosen pretty much at random from my hard drive: On my Rio: Stranglers - Always the Sun Alice n' Chains - Man In The Box Dream Academy - Life in a Northern Town The Cult - She Sells Sanctuary Ah Ha - Take On Me The The - Uncertain Smile Lords Of Acid - I Sit On Acid (12" mix) Beasty Boys - What Ya Want Doctor and the Medics - Spirit In The Sky Duel - Propaganda Contagion - Scratch as you can see, quite a varied mix. Recent purchases include: Poe - Haunted ELO -- Zoom Radiohead - Amnesiac Travis - The Invisible Band - ----- Original Message ----- From: "p.latham2" To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: Alloy: Records currently playing > > Recently someone wrote in asking about what people were presently playing ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #180 ***************************