From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #111 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, May 3 2001 Volume 06 : Number 111 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Retrospectacle [jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com] Re: Alloy: Retrospectacle [Robin Thurlow <rthurlow@binghamton.edu>] Alloy: wreck of the fairchild ["janet latham" <janet.latham@talk21.com>] Re: Alloy: quickie for Slarv - again - [Slarvibarglhee <slarvibarglhee@al] Alloy: WOTF Interpretation [Spencer2424@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:34:48 +0300 From: jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com Subject: Alloy: Retrospectacle Hi all, Paul Baily wrote: > I found myself firing up the Golden Age of Wireless again. > > Rediscovery time: I'm sure you don't need me to tell you that > this album is just /beautiful/, timeless, and brilliant. It really is isn't it. I carefully placed one of my GAOW copies with TWOTF and gave it a spin today. I suppose I have played TGAOW about 1000 times but out of them I have probably only heard TWOTF 6 or so times. This is most definitely a conscious decision for me. 'New' TMDR music is as rare as rocking-horse shit and there are a couple of tracks like TWOTF and the guitar version of Radio Silence that I didn't get copies of until quite recently. I tend to save them for special occasions. I also recently bought The Gate on DVD and had much the same response to Valley Of The Minds Eye. Lovely. Oh to be able to root about in his basement for a hour or two. I bet there are treasures beyond comprehension to be found lying in dust shrouded isolation. Bake us a another tape Mr R. Pleeeeze. What about the reggae version of My Brain Is Like A Sieve? We would love to hear that one. Greetings from sunny Finland. (Winter is gone, woohoo!) Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:15:22 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow <rthurlow@binghamton.edu> Subject: Re: Alloy: Retrospectacle jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: > I suppose I have played TGAOW about 1000 times but > out of them I have probably only heard TWOTF 6 or so times. I understand your logic, but like a kid with candy, I can't help but indulge in any and all of his music as often as I can. In particular Wreck of the Fairchild is one I like to play a lot. The one line of lyrics on the recording (though it seems to be sung differently than the original conception which is in a handwritten note in Thomas' FES Gallery) is quite chilling. The elements within the music could not be more beautifully arranged. I really love this piece. xxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:43:43 +0100 From: "janet latham" <janet.latham@talk21.com> Subject: Alloy: wreck of the fairchild I fully agree - the w.o.t.f . is a great track , one of my favourites alongside Therapy/Growth,I hardly ever hear that track , yet when I do , I always wonder why ive left it so long --- and why isnt it on any CD??????. By the way - for anyone who maybe hasnt seen a similar item -- the spanish single - Wreck of Fairchild/Airwaves - has a great cover to it - taken from one of the videos of Live Wireless - cant remember which one at present . Oh yes - dont worry im going to sort out my own e mail address soon - my wifes getting bored of receiving emails which have nothing to do with her. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:03:49 +0100 From: Slarvibarglhee <slarvibarglhee@alloy99.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: Alloy: quickie for Slarv - again - Oops, I checked but forgot to post the answer. Yes, they're still there, on the 26th floor. A mobile phone company moved in somewhere on the upper floors about a year ago, so now the lifts are invariably full of teens or early twenty-somethings who work on their help lines, usually slagging off their compnay for one reason or another (probably poor working conditions and rates of pay). We're about to start a refurbishment, after which I'll be moving down to the 11th floor. I'll miss the view but not sharing the lifts with these youngsters .... oh dog, I'm starting to sound like a grumpy old man. Slarv Tim Hudson wrote: > Question for SLARV...... > > Are MVA still in the office tower in Manchester city centre? > > I used to work with them there about 7 years ago - I cant remember the > floor number ! > > Tim. > > -- > Tim Hudson > tim_hudson@zdnetonebox.com - email > > ___________________________________________________________________ > To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, > all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:43:30 EDT From: Spencer2424@aol.com Subject: Alloy: WOTF Interpretation In a message dated 5/2/01 10:26:33 AM Central Daylight Time, rthurlow@binghamton.edu writes: << In particular Wreck of the Fairchild is one I like to play a lot. The one line of lyrics on the recording (though it seems to be sung differently than the original conception which is in a handwritten note in Thomas' FES Gallery) is quite chilling. The elements within the music could not be more beautifully arranged. I really love this piece. >> Just for the fun of the discussion, I've always liked to think of "Wreck of the Fairchild" as the missing "prequel" to "Airwaves." The end of the "Wreck" has that same radio noise sound that serves as an intro to "Airwaves." In fact, you can almost mix them right into each other at that point. So the way I like to think of Airwaves is that the guy singing it was one of the guys on board the "Fairchild." And when the vessel went down, he was the lone survivor. But he found himself stuck in a foreign (and politically opposed) country, with no way to tell his comrades that he was actually still alive. So he spends his evenings on some broken down Ham radio, trying in vain to contact someone from home. In the meantime, he continues to lead a double-life, always paranoid that he will be discovered for who he really is. I'm sure that wasn't Thomas's intent, but I've always liked that back-story idea for the songs. Happy listening! - - Craig ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #111 ***************************