From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #91 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, April 11 2001 Volume 06 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Geographical ignorance coupled with extremely bad timing... [jonat] Re: Alloy: Thomas performs!! [CRACKERS ] Re: Alloy: (OT) phobias, was: Thomas performs!! [CRACKERS ] Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #90 [CRACKERS ] Re: Alloy: (OT) phobias, was: Thomas performs!! ["Robin" ] Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #90 [Jon Drukman ] Re: Alloy: Very OT - Thank a Veteran [Merujo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:28:30 +0300 From: jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com Subject: Alloy: Geographical ignorance coupled with extremely bad timing... Hi all, it seems that I will be in somewhere called Palo Alto next month... I believe that is somewhere near San Francisco so let me say firstly and very frankly. D R A T A N D D O U B L E D R A T ! ! ! One of the only times this decade that Thomas plays a very rare, short but nonetheless and by all accounts, perfectly formed, public performance in a country thousands of miles away mn the near vicinity of a place that I am actually going to spend a week in in the near future and I miss it by a relative hairs-bredth. What was it that that man wrote? 'came so close, close but no cigar... So where exactly is Palo Alto then? What does one do there of an evening? I've been around a bit over the past few years but this will amazingly be my first time in the US (I have been to Canada!) and I must say I'm a bit perplexed about the whole deal. There are so many questions... When is Miller time at the bar where all the English meet? Where's the bar for a start! Should one drink in the hills or the valleys these days? I'll be there in the second week of May doing a management training seminar and some stuff at Stanford University. That's what happens when you take a day off sick. As soon as your back's turned people start planning stuff or you to do. If anyone knows the area and can tell of anything interesting going on (or even fancies a beer with a Alloyite, I'm buying!) your info would be gratefully received. Cheers, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From: CRACKERS Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas performs!! On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Slarvibarglhee wrote: > There are two possibilties here :- > > 1. Crackers is a liar, or maybe just mistaken. > > 2. Crackers is not cool. > > I think he's just mistaken. Awwww. You're a pal Slarvi! Crackers (All chocked up from hell!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:59:43 -0400 (EDT) From: CRACKERS Subject: Re: Alloy: (OT) phobias, was: Thomas performs!! On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Robin wrote: > Strangely, I've been thinking about my own phobias lately - with our pending > trip to Britain I've been trying to sort out what bothers me about flying. > I don't have any unusually strong fear of death, personally, so that's not > it. I love flying. The only time I've ever had a bad flying experience was on a Canada 3000 sardine tin. I get very claustraphobic and this jet was small and crammed with people. I always have to sit on an isle seat (for planes, trains, and busses. And I can't sit in the back seat of a two-door car) so I have a sense of space around me. When we landed in Ireland to refuel everyone seemed to decide that would be a good time to go to the bathroom. So the tiny isleway was packed with people all crowding over me. I damn near had a panic attack. > horse will be injured. I actually have to make myself look away and stop > thinking about it or else I'll get really panicked (and I'm feeling anxiety > just writing about it now!) Maybe you were a horse killed in a trailor accident in a previous life. ^_^ Or at least that's how my Nana explains away everything. So I was appearently struck down by a tornado, eaten by a shark, confined in a small space, and lynched in the US in a previous life/lives. > Crackers, your USA phobia is interesting, but I assure you (and I'm sure > you've been told this many times) most of the US is really very boring to be > in after the sun goes down. Yeah, I've been told that many times. Still I'm always afraid if I ever have to go to the states that some extremist with a gun will shoot me or some gangbanger will pop a cap in my ass because I'm wearing the wrong coloured shirt, or the Chud will come out to get me. A couple of years ago one of my sisters friends was killed while visiting New York in a random act of violence. Some guy just stabbed him through the back with a machetti. Like I said before, New York, LA, and Detroit probably scare me more than any other US cities mostly because I hear the most horror stories about them. Detroit particularily because it's so damn close and so many people I know have been there and come back with stories of being car-jacked or shot at or walking in on convenience store robberies. Still, if there's ever a "spend a night in a shark-infested, american trailer park" contest to win free Dolby concert tickets I'll be first in line. Crackers (Breathing into a paper bag from hell!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:03:34 -0400 (EDT) From: CRACKERS Subject: Re: Alloy: Geographical ignorance coupled with extremely bad timing... On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: > Hi all, > it seems that I will be in somewhere called Palo Alto next month... > I believe that is somewhere near San Francisco so let me say firstly and > very frankly. Be sure to pack the shark repelent and kevlar just incase. ^_^ Man, missing a Dolby performance by a week or so would really eat me up. CRACKERS (Being mocked by fate from hell!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:59:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbara Cohen Subject: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #90 >From: CRACKERS > >My three biggest phobias the thought of which can keep me awake at night >1)Tornados, 2)Sharks, 3)Being in the USA when the sun goes down. wow! I never knew anyone else with a true phobia about tornadoes (lots of people have healthy respect/fear). I have never seen one, yet I am totally terrified/fascinated. I watch all the Nova tornado specials, the movies, etc etc. Then I don't have nightmares, but when I am particularly stressed out, I have tornado dreams. I don't know what I would do if I ever actually saw one. > >From: "Robin" > >that's been a real phobia for me on a regular basis. I suppose it could >apply to flying in some way... being in a contraption that's going really >fast & you're not in control of? That's my thing: I am not afraid of being dead, but I am really afreaid of _dying_. I think being in a plane crash, you've got a good 40 seconds of knowing you're dying (sorry to be morbid). The control thing is a good point too...I don't have a problem driving along steep cliffs, but I have a problem being a passenger. I'd be pretty pissed off if someone else killed me! :) Wow, can you tell I'm stressed out? All this morbid talk. I'm going in to get 2 wisdom teeth out on Friday. General anesthesia always gets me thinking about dying. *B* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:30:56 -0400 (EDT) From: CRACKERS Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #90 On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Barbara Cohen wrote: > wow! I never knew anyone else with a true phobia about tornadoes (lots of > people have healthy respect/fear). I have never seen one, yet I am totally > terrified/fascinated. I watch all the Nova tornado specials, the movies, > etc etc. Then I don't have nightmares, but when I am particularly > stressed out, I have tornado dreams. I don't know what I would do if I > ever actually saw one. Ever since I was a kid I would get these nightmares where I'd be outside playing on a bright sunny day with my friends when all of a sudden these dark clouds would suddenly amass and all my friends would scatter and I'd be alone. I'd turn around and see a tornado coming down from the black sky in a twisting fury and I'd try to run but either my legs wouldn't move or my legs would suddenly sink into the ground past my knees and I'd just watch and silently scream as the tornado drew closer. I have seen a few funnel clouds in my time and they have scared me wittless but I have never seen on touch the ground. I too love watching documentaries on tornados. As well I also love watching documentaries on sharks. Sharks really terrify me. I remember when I was two years old and my parents took me to an aquarium. One of the big tanks held some sort of shark (probably only about 3 or 4 feet in length but to a 2 year old it was a giant). I froze and was terrified for my life. I was positive that if this shark saw me it would smash through the glass and devour me. My parents walked passed the aquarium without me and then they got to the other side they noticed I wasn't with them. They turned around and told me to come but I stood there terrified and shaking my head no. Then my dad got really angry and yelled at me to hurry up or I'd be in trouble. Well now I was looking at either getting a spanking from my dad or being eaten by a shark. I noticed that there was about a foot of concrerete wall between where the floor was and where the glass of the aquarium began so I laid down on my belly and crawled along the floor so the shark wouldn't be able to see me. Then my parents did what seemed like the most cruel thing in the world they could ever do to me at that time (from my two year old perspective) they laughed their asses off. Here I was facing death and they were laughing at me. Now I realize now that there is a certain cuteness at the image of a two year old crawling on his belly so a shark in an aquarium won't see him but boy at the time their laughter just stung at me like you wouldn't believe. The whole event combined to create one of the most vivid and terrifying memories of my early childhood and now that I think about it that was probably the catalyst event for my shark phobia and my being a type six personality (for those of you familiar with enneagrams). About 16 years ago I was snorkeling in the Dominican Republic and I swam down into this crevace between these two reef formations and this 6 foot shark (I don't know the type) suddenly out of nowhere passed within an arms length underneith me. I was so terrified that I almost passed out on the spot. I was out about 300 meters from shore, all on my own, with a shark. Yikes! v CRACKERS (Sharkbait from hell!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:36:09 -0400 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: (OT) phobias, was: Thomas performs!! Crackers wrote: > Still I'm always afraid if I ever > have to go to the states that some extremist with a gun will shoot me or > some gangbanger will pop a cap in my ass because I'm wearing the > wrong coloured shirt, or the Chud will come out to get me. That reminds me, are there any colors I shouldn't wear in certain parts of Britain or else the local football fans will kick my head in? xxxxx rOBIN t ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:49:09 -0400 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #90 From: "Barbara Cohen" > Wow, can you tell I'm stressed out? All this morbid talk. I'm going in to > get 2 wisdom teeth out on Friday. Good luck, and don't worry, you'll be fine! General anesthesia is a breeze. You'll count down from 100... at around 80 you'll suddenly think you taste a piece of warm garlic bread in your mouth... and then the next thing you know the procedure will have been finished, and you'll wake up in a recovery room, cheerfully talking away to yourself about God-knows-what. You'll be laughing hysterically shortly thereafter as they lead you out to the parking lot to go home, with your brightly colored helium balloon the doctor just gave you for being so good. At least that's the way it went for me. Someone else will need to drive of course. xxxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:01:26 -0700 From: Jon Drukman Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #90 At 06:49 PM 4/10/2001 -0400, you wrote: >From: "Barbara Cohen" > > Wow, can you tell I'm stressed out? All this morbid talk. I'm going in to > > get 2 wisdom teeth out on Friday. > >Good luck, and don't worry, you'll be fine! General anesthesia is a breeze. >You'll count down from 100... at around 80 you'll suddenly think you taste a >piece of warm garlic bread in your mouth... and then the next thing you know >the procedure will have been finished, and you'll wake up in a recovery >room, cheerfully talking away to yourself about God-knows-what. You'll be >laughing hysterically shortly thereafter as they lead you out to the parking >lot to go home, with your brightly colored helium balloon the doctor just >gave you for being so good. At least that's the way it went for me. >Someone else will need to drive of course. yeah they gave me valium the night before and the morning of to relax me. then nitrous when i was sitting in the chair to make me stoned as hell. then the iv drip (sodium pentathol or something similar i guess) and the next thing i knew i was waking up, shivering uncontrollably. they said "are you cold?" i said "i don't know, why?" they said "you're shivering!" i said "am i? oh." then they wheeled me out and the rest of the week was a blur of codeine flavored tylenol and crash bandicoot. it's not so bad all in all. - -jsd- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:49:12 -0400 From: Merujo Subject: Re: Alloy: Very OT - Thank a Veteran CRACKERS wrote: > But you know, they're always alive as long as you keep them in your heart > and I can still visit my Grandmother there. So you never really, truly do > say goodbye. Thanks, Crackers, for the really cool words. That's a very nice philosophy, and I appreciate it very much. I will always carry my mom with me in my heart. I hope I can exemplify her courage and kindness each day I live. I hope to keep my mother's memory alive by doing volunteer work for the Women in Military Service for America memorial foundation, and use some of my mom's keepsakes from the war to do school education programs. Cheers, Melissa ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #91 **************************