From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #87 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, April 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 087 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: still thinking about legalities, Disney vs Prima case ["Robin" ] Re: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM [Brian Clayton ] Alloy: Robyn Hitchcock and the CNET interview ["Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: still thinking about legalities, Disney vs Prima case In terms of interpreting the law, the framers of the Constitution of the United States could not have predicted the future, or all of our scientific innovations which are causing legally complicated situations today ... yet in legal cases I've heard of, they take the Constitution as a guide, and go by their best judgement according to today's situation. Would this be true (hopefully) of contracts within the recording/entertainment industry... or do they legally have to go word-by-word? Even if they did though, it seems it would only be sane to have it understood that the original writer and signer of the contract were probably not clairvoyant & could not predict future delivery media of their work. I know I may be dwelling on this a bit too much for my own good, but I have been thinking about this since yesterday & if they don't work out a way to allow for future types of media then how can any artist sign anything? I would hate to see partnerships between artists and companies destroyed completely, to the detriment of both in a lot of cases, because of what seems to me to be a difference between technical semantics and a real understanding of intent from both parties. I don't know anything about legal technicalities so if anyone here does I would love to hear your thoughts. xxxxx Robin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:13:44 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM They are live here: http://www.cnet.com/cnettv/0-1519376.html?tag=stbc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin" To: "Alloy" Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:53 PM Subject: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM > > Thomas has just asked me to relay the news that he's doing a last-minute radio > interview on C|Net radio tomorrow morning (Friday April 6th) at 7-30am PST. > It broadcasts on AM910 in the Bay Area, and he believes it may be syndicated > elsewhere. > > I'm planning to check for it on http://www.cnet.com just in case they feature > it there, you never know! > > xxxxx > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:31:34 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM Doh! I need to work out those time zone calculations - 9:30 Mountain Time = 8:30 Pacific (not 7:30 - duh) Sorry for the "timely" information. - -Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Stansell" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM > > They are live here: > http://www.cnet.com/cnettv/0-1519376.html?tag=stbc > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robin" > To: "Alloy" > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:53 PM > Subject: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM > > > > > > Thomas has just asked me to relay the news that he's doing a last-minute > radio > > interview on C|Net radio tomorrow morning (Friday April 6th) at 7-30am > PST. > > It broadcasts on AM910 in the Bay Area, and he believes it may be > syndicated > > elsewhere. > > > > I'm planning to check for it on http://www.cnet.com just in case they > feature > > it there, you never know! > > > > xxxxx > > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:57:35 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM Thanks for checking it out anyway Keith.. I myself had really hoped to hear the live broadcast this morning (our time 10:30 am) but we had to drive out to FedEx before work for a crucial package. My so-far-unrealized dream of having internet radio connection in the car was all the more bitterly mourned when I knew I'd miss Thomas' interview through lack of it! ~sigh~ Did anyone here have a chance to listen in? xxxxx Robin T Keith Stansell wrote: > > Doh! > > I need to work out those time zone calculations - 9:30 Mountain Time = 8:30 > Pacific (not 7:30 - duh) > > Sorry for the "timely" information. > > -Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:54:43 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: Toy Symphony I've found this very short article in the Boston Globe, and it immediately made me think of the concepts Thomas discussed at the end of his lecture at the PopTech 2000 conference last October (we are still waiting for their archived streaming video of that, which should be up on their website soon - I'll post here when it's available!) For those who saw the live webcast, you may remember Thomas' desire to talk to the other participants about ideas for developing music education via interactive computer media. It would be wonderful if the MIT Media Lab toys allow kids to play music with others in real time around the world via an internet linkup, which is one of the ideas Thomas had thought should be developed. Anyway I thought this news was very encouraging :) xxxx Robin CLASSICAL NOTES Hyperviolin part of Bell's hyper schedule By Richard Dyer, Globe Staff, 4/6/2001 In between his commitments to the Boston Symphony Orchestra last week, violinist Joshua Bell made a few visits to MIT's Media Lab in his new capacity as ''adjunct associate professor.'' Bell is working with composer-techie Tod Machover on a new-generation model of the famous computer-enhanced ''hyperviolin'' that Machover developed in 1993. The new instrument, in cooperation with computers, can morph from violin tone into an infinite world of other sonic possibilities, harmonize with itself, and create soundscapes out of the most minute shifts on the fingerboard or with the bow. It will be unveiled to an invited audience in Palm Springs in June. The hyperviolin project is part of a larger enterprise in which Bell is involved, Machover's ''Toy Symphony,'' which is scheduled to embark on a world tour next summer. The ''Toy Symphony'' serves ambitious educational and artistic objectives by presenting a full-length concert event involving specially composed music, major orchestras, a soloist (Bell), children, and new toys that the Media Lab has invented to help children perform and compose music. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:37:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR interview on CNET - friday AM On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Robin wrote: > Thomas has just asked me to relay the news that he's doing a last-minute radio > interview on C|Net radio tomorrow morning (Friday April 6th) at 7-30am PST. > It broadcasts on AM910 in the Bay Area, and he believes it may be syndicated > elsewhere. > > I'm planning to check for it on http://www.cnet.com just in case they feature > it there, you never know! It appears that the Morning Show with Brian Cooley is available for streaming even now... however, it starts at 8am, so it wouldn't include the interview. http://www.cnet.com/cnettv/0-1519376.html?tag=netools BC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:00:21 -0400 From: "Robin" Subject: Alloy: Robyn Hitchcock There's an unconfirmed rumor (only a rumor!) that Thomas might put in an appearance onstage at Robyn Hitchcock's show tomorrow night at the Fillmore in SF. Is anyone here attending? xxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:39:47 -0500 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: Robyn Hitchcock and the CNET interview Robin wrote: > There's an unconfirmed rumor (only a rumor!) that Thomas might > put in an appearance onstage at Robyn Hitchcock's show tomorrow > night at the Fillmore in SF. So, Robin, Just where did you hear this rumor? Stephen and I are going since I thought it would be great to see Matthew again (from the photo in the SF Chronicle last week, he looks just like he did in Live Wireless and the Flat Earth tour, damn him!). It was surreal to hear TMDR on my car radio this morning. CNet was broadcasting from the Ritz-Carlton in Half Moon Bay and it amused me to hear the interviewer keep proudly mentioning that Thomas is a resident. Thomas spoke mainly about the new Beatnik products for PDAs and Palm PCs and did a remix of "Science". I took comfort in finding that Stephen and I aren't the only ones who have problems with this mixing program. Thomas, too, apparently found it a bit slow on the uptake sometimes. He was asked about music being available on the Internet and he talked about how "record labels suck. I signed to a label in 1980. They sucked then and they suck now!" He feels that they are most useful for marketing and that they can't bring lawsuits against Napster unless they prove they have a reasonable alternative. When asked his opinion about how Half Moon Bay is becoming more developed, he surprised me by being in favor of it, even though he said his taxes went way up. He said that the area used to be covered with "Victorian gin palaces" until they fell into the sea so he views the changes as the next logical steps in the evolution of the place. I wonder how much longer he'll be able to go "hiking and biking" in his favorite spots once the developers arrive in earnest...Did anyone else catch it? Feel free to correct me since I was driving "up (but not down) 101" and was trying to pay attention to the traffic simultaneously. Europa ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #87 **************************