From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #71 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, March 19 2001 Volume 06 : Number 071 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: OT: Correction (Calling Guitarists) [Elaine Linstruth ] Alloy: Howard The Duck Cards ["Michael & Denise Luckey" Subject: Alloy: OT: Correction (Calling Guitarists) My mistake in posting earlier, I used http://www.sheetmusicplus.com - -online +plus Check them out, it's a pretty good warehouse. I can vouch for their delivery anyway, my first stuff arrived just today. Thanks again to the guitarists, as well as to those suffering this narrative. Crackers, did you happen to mean G7 instead of G-maj, or am I looking at the wrong songs? Elaine Fingerpads hurt already, from hell!! :-) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA, USA "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 "The American people must be willing to give up a degree of personal privacy in exchange for safety and security." -- FBI Director Louis Freeh, 1993 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:36:42 -0600 From: "Krzysko, Bill" Subject: RE: Alloy: OT - Calling All Guitarists I've found some CD-ROM's at my local library that I've found helpful for learning guitar. It's called eMedia Guitar Method. I think they have volumes 1 and 2. It's basic lessons with video clips and diagrams and such. I find them helpful in providing some structure to learning. It's probably the same material in the beginners workbooks, but you get the advantage or seeing and hearing exactly how the chords are made, and how they should sound, etc. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Elaine Linstruth Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:50 PM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: OT - Calling All Guitarists Wow!! Thanks you guys, that's really helpful -- Crackers and Ian, and Robin for her off-list encouragement as well. I've gone ahead and ordered some music online, from sheetmusiconline.com. One of these books turns out to be "easy solos" so that's probably not what I was looking for (although it has an accompanying CD so I'll hang on to it for later.) I also picked up a campfire-songs ukulele book, because we have one of those around here someplace. I tried many moons ago to 'get the hang' of ukelele but I determined that I'd better start with guitar and progress from there. I've started with an "easy guitar" American folk songs book, and the sheet music for the Crowded House best-of CD, Recurring Dream. It seemed like a decent popular-music choice to start, but if anyone has other ideas please let me hear 'em. > I concur with Crackers on this one. I picked up the guitar in '93 after 15 > years of drumming. I have a steel string but wish I had a classical. It is > not a fast pick strumming kinda guitar... the strings won't take it. I > suggest learning some finger-style patterns. These aren't too hard to learn > and can be very beneficial (especially when you are all out of picks) > > If you like I can send you an email with a few easy lessons and chord types > for you? What kind of songs would you like to learn first? I've been over to the local guitar store three times and keep forgetting to get a pick! So I'm glad to hear you say I'm okay learning it without one. I've already broken a string.. not even sure how that happened. Anyway, I have a reasonably modest goal -- playing kid songs that we sing already, and general campfire songs. Nothing too complicated, as then I wouldn't be able to drink beer and concentrate! Heh. Now that they're getting older we're hoping to make camping part of our family life. It's too bad, in fact, that I can't learn something in a week: we're taking a two-day 4x4 offroad run across the Mohave Desert next weekend. Needles to Barstow on No Pavement. I'm told the stars will be "like you've never seen them before." Should be fun! That's the sort of thing I'm talking about. This summer, we plan to trek to Coyote Flats in the Sierras. Anybody know anything about trout fishing? :) Thanks for the help, and Ian if you know some good beginner stuff you're willing to share, I'm all ears! xoxo Elaine - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, California Sources said Turner stared at one and said, "At first I thought you were in the earthquake" in Seattle that day. "But I realized you're just Jesus freaks. Shouldn't you guys be working for Fox?" - New York Post online, Saturday, March 10, 2001 Ted Turner to ash-wearing employees on Ash Wednesday ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:39:36 -0600 From: "Krzysko, Bill" Subject: RE: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted For the record, I did find the black on red slightly hard to read. Perhaps white text on red might give better contrast. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:20 AM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted Thanks for your suggestions Russ, I really like the idea of linking the relevant text to the footnotes. I'll have to do a little reading & see how to go about doing this. I think very much along non-digital lines but want to develop instincts for working within the medium as you say. I'm sorry if my black text on red gave you trouble reading it. Did anyone else have problems? I have to say that as queen of visually-triggered headaches I didn't have trouble reading or typing this up. I use myself as a Guinea pig for this kind of thing when working with colors/patterns but there may well be those out there with greater sensitivity. For red/green colorblindness, I think the red on my page would work out to be anywhere from a 30% to 40% neutral field, so hadn't thought black text would be hard to see for those with this type of vision. (Dave and I knew a painter who was color blind so I do think about this when I'm working on anything!) But, I could be badly mistaken, it's been known to happen! I can easily revise the color scheme. I'm putting these interviews up for you to read so it's no good having them translate out as illegible. xxxx Robin T - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Milliner" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted > > The article is great, and I believe the footnotes work quite well. A > couple of comments/suggestions though: > > Red and black may look good together, but they have horrible contrast > when trying to read. Not to mention people with color blindness > problems may not be able to read it at all. Maybe put the text into > a single table cell and make that table cell's background white. So > the page would have the red border. > > Also take a little advantage of the medium and make your footnote > symbols hot links to the footnote. And put by the footnote a return > link back to the line with the reference. > > -Russell > http://www.pobox.com/~milliner/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:33:30 +0000 From: Will Crewdson Subject: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #70 Did you know that Thomas actually plays on the Thompson Twins "In the Name of Love"/"Set" album on three tracks (Runaway,The Rowe and Fool's Gold)? So I guess this was where he hooked up with Mr. Seligman. Great list by the way! Shoulda done this ages ago! Love Will ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:12:45 -0500 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: OT: Correction (Calling Guitarists) Elaine wrote: > Fingerpads hurt already, from hell!! :-) > LOL, this will be remedied soon if you just keep going. My own fingertips became so heavily calloused from years of cello playing that I can still form them into abstact shapes, even though I haven't played in about a year now. I think gut strings may be easier on the fingers than steel or steel-wound so you're in a little luck at least! Speaking of the Clash (and how you're now qualified to be a member), remember their unanticipated Bond's Casino residency in NY, where they played around a month's worth of consecutive evening shows (w/additional matinees on weekends) because their management completely overbooked - the band however didn't want to cheat even one of their fans out of seeing a really energetic show. The guitarists' hands and arms were shredded from so much relentless playing, their instruments were mutilating them! Bearing in mind their bravery & determination at Bond's, actually made it easier for me when I had a painful time dealing with my own vibrato technique years ago, with the A steadily slicing into previously untried flesh. xxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:08:37 -0500 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted Thanks everyone for your input, the new and hopefully improved page is: http://www.robinthurlow.addr.com/ThomasDolby884.htm happy reading! xxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:17:25 -0500 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted PS still no text hyperlinks, but I will still play with these once I get this page linked with all the others ~R ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:12:47 -0500 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V6 #70 Hi Will, Thanks for posting, & welcome! I'm glad you are enjoying the list. How long have you been a fan of Thomas' work? xxxxx Robin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:38:33 -0500 From: "Michael & Denise Luckey" Subject: Alloy: Howard The Duck Cards Like Mary I too went searching for Thomas in the Howard The Duck Topps card set to no avail. I bought the whole set hoping he might have a photo but no luck. Guess all of us card enthusiasts are still awaiting that elusive Dolby rookie card! Hmmm...an Alloy card set sounds like an idea in the future eh Robin? M.L. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:42:19 -0500 (EST) From: CRACKERS Subject: Re: Alloy: OT: Correction (Calling Guitarists) On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Elaine Linstruth wrote: > Crackers, did you happen to mean G7 instead of G-maj, or am I looking at > the wrong songs? You can usually get away with substituting the maj of a chord for the seventh if the seventh of that chord is too complicated to play or too difficult to get at from the chord you played before it. CRACKERS (substitutions from hell!!!) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #71 **************************